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Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: TheSeeker on October 31, 2003, 10:06:44
HAHA!  That's funny stuff there.
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: Nay on October 31, 2003, 10:47:02
Hehehehe...Gotta love that!!!  

Now that is what I call instant Karma! hehehe

Nay [;)]
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: shenron_2012 on October 31, 2003, 11:19:16
ha ha now thats what i call entertainment...!!!![:D]
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: jc84corvette on October 31, 2003, 13:24:17
LMFAO!

HAHAHAHAHAAH HAHAHAA HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!


Everytime men expose them selves that way infront of a croud of girls, you know you know he will get a can of whoop butt!
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: xander on October 31, 2003, 13:27:36
quote:
Originally posted by Tisha

word up to the home girls in PHILADELPHIA!!!!!!!!!!  [:D]



Fri October 31, 2003 10:31 AM ET

PHILADELPHIA (Reuters) - A man described by authorities as a known sexual predator was chased through the streets of South Philadelphia by an angry crowd of Catholic high school girls, who kicked and punched him after he was tackled by neighbors, police said on Friday.
Rudy Susanto, 25, who had exposed himself to teen-age girls on as many as seven occasions outside St. Maria Goretti School, struck again on Thursday just as students were being dismissed, police said.

But this time, a group of girls in school uniforms angrily confronted Susanto with help from some neighbors, police said. When Susanto tried to run, more than 20 girls chased him down the block. Two men from the neighborhood caught him and the girls took their revenge.

"The girls came and started kicking him and punching him, so I wasn't going to stop them," neighbor Robert Lemons told The Philadelphia Inquirer.

Susanto was later treated for injuries at a local hospital. Police said he would be charged with 14 criminal counts including harassment, disorderly conduct, open lewdness and corrupting the morals of a minor.

© Reuters 2003. All Rights Reserved.  




Did the dumba*s not realize that this isn't the 1950's anymore? Women have always had the potential of violent behavior in any context. In todays society they are encouraged to express their feelings in a physical way. I kinda feel bad for the guy.....for being born stupid.
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: Anonymous on October 31, 2003, 15:14:17
Men like this guy give the rest of us a bad name. Glad someone did something about it. I wish I could've been there pummeling with them. I'd hold him down and let them take all the shots.
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: Logic on October 31, 2003, 18:20:13
I think the highschool boys should pummel the girls who expose themselvs.
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: PyroPsion69 on October 31, 2003, 20:41:36
Yea lets all beat up the girls who expose...hey wait a minute thats a good thing! [:P] just playing around no offense meant.
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: jc84corvette on October 31, 2003, 21:38:57
quote:
Originally posted by PyroPsion69

Yea lets all beat up the girls who expose...hey wait a minute thats a good thing! [:P] just playing around no offense meant.



Hell no.
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: WalkerInTheWoods on October 31, 2003, 22:04:56
Wait, isn't every man's dream? Being chased down by more than 20 Catholic high school girls in uniform? [8D]
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: beavis on October 31, 2003, 22:14:39
I hope he takes those girls to court for assault. He pulled out his willy, which is a minor annoyance, but they injured him.
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: jc84corvette on October 31, 2003, 22:35:20
quote:
Originally posted by fallnangel77

Wait, isn't every man's dream? Being chased down by more than 20 Catholic high school girls in uniform? [8D]




Hell yeah it is!
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: beavis on October 31, 2003, 22:46:30
The girls in my dreams are naked. They dont wear uniforms[xx(]
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: jc84corvette on October 31, 2003, 23:00:08
Well i'd take that too!
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: chupacabra on November 01, 2003, 08:28:53
i have to agree with beavis. Does exposing oneself justify that person being assaulted? I feel that since the perpetrator was a man, however, it makes it "OK". Although it would probably never happen, lets imagine a woman exposing herself and a group of Catholic boys running her down WITH THE HELP OF ADULTS and then assaulting her (not sexually). That scenario pushes some different emotional buttons, doesn't it?

Althought the freak probably deserved it, it's dangerous to set a precedent making it OK for mobs to chase down people and beat them up.
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: jc84corvette on November 01, 2003, 18:51:24
quote:
Originally posted by chupacabra

i have to agree with beavis. Does exposing oneself justify that person being assaulted? I feel that since the perpetrator was a man, however, it makes it "OK". Although it would probably never happen, lets imagine a woman exposing herself and a group of Catholic boys running her down WITH THE HELP OF ADULTS and then assaulting her (not sexually). That scenario pushes some different emotional buttons, doesn't it?

Althought the freak probably deserved it, it's dangerous to set a precedent making it OK for mobs to chase down people and beat them up.



The females better get charges! That is far to much "getting back" on the guy. Word or a kick would have done him good.
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: Fat_Turkey on November 02, 2003, 00:10:47
Or maybe just getting him arrested?

Why the hell do the girls get away with it if a guy harrasses them. There's even a movie about a guy who got raped by a woman, and several SVU/CSI/other-crime-shows episodes about it.

Aren't we all supposed to be equal?

But I gotta admit, that IS funny!

~FT
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: Nagual on November 02, 2003, 03:39:59
Hum... "an angry crowd of Catholic high school girls"...  Scary!
I bet these Catholic school girls did skip their love, forgiveness and compassion classes...  What if the man died from his injuries...?  Pretty sad.  I really hope that these girls and neighbors will be charged for assault or something! [V]
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: Euphoric Sunrise on November 02, 2003, 06:20:04
quote:
Originally posted by chupacabra

lets imagine a woman exposing herself

You lost me there [:D]

Seriously though, that is a funny story, but i have to agree that the girls should also get charged. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: Dark Knight on November 02, 2003, 13:11:40
Right on, fellow self righteous Catholic school sisters.

Sorry, but the only time I have ever heard of a woman exposing herself to anyone is during Mardi Gras or the American Music Awards.

The men that do it are not just flipping their willy. They often turn out to be sexual predators who move on to do something else, usually more violent in sexual nature.



Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: xander on November 02, 2003, 13:17:03
quote:
Originally posted by Dark Knight

Right on, fellow self righteous Catholic school sisters.

Sorry, but the only time I have ever heard of a woman exposing herself to anyone is during Mardi Gras or the American Music Awards.

The men that do it are not just flipping their willy. They often turn out to be sexual predators who move on to do something else, usually more violent in sexual nature.




Aren't women who expose themselves sexual predators? Is it possible for women to be sexual predators? Are women becoming more violent in response to the increasing violence in our culture?

Not being snide, just playing the devils advocate.

Xander
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: Dark Knight on November 02, 2003, 13:23:30
Women as sexual predators will often attack children...which is why women who are pedophiles are often attacked by other women...and very viciously I might add.

Yes, women have assaulted men...that in itself needs work.

The guy that flashed himself to these girls was no victim.
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: xander on November 02, 2003, 13:41:09
quote:
Originally posted by Dark Knight

The guy that flashed himself to these girls was no victim.



I agree. However, what constitutes justice and vengeance. Where is the thin line crossed?

Would the punishment fit the crime if the genders were reversed?

Xander
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: Anonymous on November 02, 2003, 16:08:02
hmm... I agree, it shouldn't be okay to beat someone up in any case. Though this guy was a KNOWN SEXUAL PREDATOR, so he obviously didn't learn his lesson the first time (or the other five or six times that followed).
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: kakkarot on November 02, 2003, 21:22:25
i don't see what's so wrong about those girls beating him up. he did something wrong in public, so why not let the public serve his punishment?

i mean, if someone hit you (forgetting forgiveness), don't you have a sort of right to hit them back? they wronged you, why can't you punish them for it? whether you choose to act upon that "right" or not is up to you, but if you did why should others look down upon your actions? after all, otherwise it's setting a precedant for bad acts to be viewed as "ok".

~kakkarot
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: monicat777 on November 02, 2003, 21:38:58
I really don't think those girls did anything wrong.  He had it coming.  I would've done the same thing.  What he did was sick and wrong and I don't even like the fact that this man gets to breathe the same air as me much less be let to walk around violating the rights of women and children.  It is totally hilarious and a bit ironic really.  But I think those girls took a situation where they were victimized and turned it into a positive and empowering experience.  They know now that they can fight and don't have to be submissive little 'good girls'.  It's great.
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: Ybom on November 02, 2003, 22:45:46
I'm personally moving away from the "eye for an eye concept". Yes it feels good in that deep down pit of the "id" that makes us human, but would the higher realm beings justify this?

I don't think assault is the answer since he is in his own little fantasy world, something else needs to be done about this...I don't like the idea of sending him to a doctor either.

Maybe monkhood?
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: Nagual on November 03, 2003, 02:42:24
[B)]Insert, for the guys who don't see the problem in beating up someone (whatever he did)...  How far could these girls have gone?  Which limit would you set?  Punching in the face is ok?  Breaking his nose is an ok punishment?  Breaking a leg is ok?  Breaking an arm?  Maybe hammering is head on the pavement is ok?  Bah, let's just kill the guy so that he won't show his genitals anymore...

Man, some of you guys are scary... [V]
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: WalkerInTheWoods on November 03, 2003, 04:55:35
The ironic thing about the situation is that Jesus thought nonviolence. He said to turn the other cheek. That is the first reason why those that follow (or claim to follow) his teachings are wrong in their actions. The next reason why they are wrong is that mob rule is wrong. Injustices happen when the mob rules because it is total anarchy and chaos as opposed to logic and based on evidence and facts. You want a good example, here is one reason why mob rule is wrong. This happen before I was born. I think it happened in the early '70s maybe 60's. Back in my small home town a white girl was raped by a black guy, or so the story goes. This upset the white population and as a mob they forced all the blacks out of town, and I do mean all. Was this right? Should mobs have a right to rule, even if they are a majority?
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: beavis on November 03, 2003, 09:00:06
I dont think forcing somebody to see a penis is worse than forcing them to see your nose or hands. People are too stuck up about nudity. I agree its wrong to do more than that. Hands can be used in sex, so they should be equally illegal to a penis.
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: Syke on November 03, 2003, 10:47:41
hmm.. this is a difficult subject.

there was this old man that lived across from the bus stop that my sister had to get off at that every day would open his curtains and walk around in front of his window naked... we called the cops.. nothing was done.
my uncle is a private investigator and went to the house across the road and asked if he could set up a camera in their window, they had small children and were more then happy to let my uncle catch this guy (the father actually wanted to pay him a visit and sort it out himself).
this old man would open his curtain just before the children got there and would close it again after the last of them would leave.

my uncle gave the video to the police and they did nothing... so he took it to 'today tonight' (a local news program) and they showed it. he soon left town... with HIS WIFE!!
but he wasnt charged or anything. so he could still be offending today.
so it probably would have been good if my uncle let that guy go around and beat this sicko up.

if he gets off by them seeing him naked imagine how far he would go given the chance.
-Syke
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: Nagual on November 03, 2003, 13:13:15
quote:
imagine how far he would go given the chance.

Hum... I have a crazy imagination you know... I could imagine the guy cutting babies heads off; eating them alive...

We go back to what Bush did/pretexted: preemptive strike...  You know, you could come to my house and kill me.  So, just to be safe, I am going to kill you first!  The problem in your story is that the police/justice did not do its job.
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: ASunnieSpirit on November 03, 2003, 21:53:55
I disagree Beavis. hands are way different then genitalia. People who present theyre penis infornt of children dont do it to make a statement about the beauty of the human body, they do it because it gives them some sort of perverted sexual high.
Btw, people have the right to make a citizen's arrest. If they didn't stop the guy he could have got away.
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: Erick on November 03, 2003, 23:26:06
I saw this article yesterday in a different publication. I dont remember which one, or I would post the link.

It mentioned an incident that happened recently in a different city where a flasher who was exposing himself to young schoolgirls at another catholic school ended up stabbing a 12 year old girl to death for refusing his advances to her.

So yeah...these girls did the RIGHT thing.  Instead of possibly becoming victims of this pervert, they ended it before it had a chance to progress to that level.  I think the guy got off very lucky.

If I can find the link again, I will post it if anyone is interested.

Erick
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: Nagual on November 04, 2003, 03:27:59
quote:
Btw, people have the right to make a citizen's arrest. If they didn't stop the guy he could have got away.


Yes, but there is a difference between arresting someone and sending him to hospital...

quote:
So yeah...these girls did the RIGHT thing. Instead of possibly becoming victims of this pervert, they ended it before it had a chance to progress to that level.


"possibly", "a chance", maybe, he could have, what if...
Goes back to my preemptive comment above...  It's not right.
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: kakkarot on November 04, 2003, 08:53:25
north american society accepts that such a thing as exposing oneself like that is wrong. that man commited a crime against the public and so the people he exposed himself to punished him.

of course there should be limits on how far such a punishment should go, but without that punishment the man will do it again and again ("who had exposed himself to teen-age girls on as many as seven occasions" before this incident. obviously he wasn't going to have a bout of guilty conscious anytime soon) and possibly even start to go further.

it's just like with any crime: there must be JUST punishment (once again, speaking from a non-forgiveness standpoint), not over punishment and not under punishment. obviously the guy will not get the death penalty in court so it would not have been just for the girls to beat him to death. HOWEVER, he won't get a slap on the wrist either (at least, he'd better not) so the girls just letting him walk away wouldn't have served justice either.

but note that it wasn't just the girls who were involved, it was some neighbors who first grabbed the guy because the neighbors thought he was doing something wrong too.

it's nice to think that forgiveness should always be incorporated, but how else would the man have learned that what he was doing was intolerable? maybe someone could have sat down and talked with him about it, but who would do that? who could repress there revulsion of him enough to want to sit and talk with him? maybe the police could have arrested him (without the girls beating him up), but how many other sexual predators are out there who HAVE been through jail and are still stalking? forgiveness is a nice thing to do, but punishment (not abuse) is meant to teach people that something is wrong.

perhaps the girls may have gone a bit too far, perhaps the man would not learn his lesson any other way. they must not have hurt him very badly if the article didn't mention anything about critical or life-threatening injuries, though, so it's not like the "mob" was frenzied or completely unthinking.

but from a different standpoint, i also find it funny and ironic that catholics would be doing something like that.

oh, and it wasn't preemptive: he exposed himself, they beat him up. if they had beat him up because they THOUGHT he would expose himself, then that would be a different matter. but they didn't. it was afterward, so they did not strike preemptively.

~kakkarot
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: Nagual on November 04, 2003, 14:32:03
I am sorry, but that's the job of the police and the judges...  Maybe the system is not perfect but I still prefer that rather than an angry mob out of control.  I wish (not really) the guy died from the beating to see how these schoolgirls would deal with having killed a man...
Title: High School Girls Pummel Man Who Exposed Himself
Post by: Tisha on October 31, 2003, 10:01:12
word up to the home girls in PHILADELPHIA!!!!!!!!!!  [:D]



Fri October 31, 2003 10:31 AM ET

PHILADELPHIA (Reuters) - A man described by authorities as a known sexual predator was chased through the streets of South Philadelphia by an angry crowd of Catholic high school girls, who kicked and punched him after he was tackled by neighbors, police said on Friday.
Rudy Susanto, 25, who had exposed himself to teen-age girls on as many as seven occasions outside St. Maria Goretti School, struck again on Thursday just as students were being dismissed, police said.

But this time, a group of girls in school uniforms angrily confronted Susanto with help from some neighbors, police said. When Susanto tried to run, more than 20 girls chased him down the block. Two men from the neighborhood caught him and the girls took their revenge.

"The girls came and started kicking him and punching him, so I wasn't going to stop them," neighbor Robert Lemons told The Philadelphia Inquirer.

Susanto was later treated for injuries at a local hospital. Police said he would be charged with 14 criminal counts including harassment, disorderly conduct, open lewdness and corrupting the morals of a minor.

© Reuters 2003. All Rights Reserved.