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How the world was created, and hope for more

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GodsProxy

I make various assumptions which are the opposite of what my new-ageish spiritual background led me to believe initially.

- Reality and God can be completely understood by any human being on planet earth, described in plain english terms.
- Much of reality and our history can be simply guessed, by looking at the obvious.
- Waiting for someone else to enlighten us as to what has happened, is typical of a "SEP" field as described by Douglas Adams. Its somebody else's problem, not mine.
- Father God, supposing he exists, might have capabilities junior to those of an average human being.
- Being in spirit form is less desirous to being incarnated.

Explain reality

Let me start at the only point I have for reference.

I am a concious entity, apparently a human meat body, struggling to survive and support others in quite a hostile enviornment called Earth.

How did I become concious? Its simply impossible. In the beginning there was nothing, and nothing persisted forever, so nothing ever existed.

Yet I am indeed concious. Therefore this logical statement is incorrect.

Let's make a more logical statement which explains how I can be concious at all. In the beginning there was infinite nothing, and because there was infinite nothing, there was also infinite everything.

Lets say that the Void logically created infinite potential.

The infinite void was counterbalanced by infinite everything.

VOID = EVERYTHING is another way of saying it.

So, nothing ever existed ever, because there could never have been something before to create the something which existed afterwards,and this was all that ever was, and all that ever will be, and no-one was concious ever, and no life existed anywhere ever, nothing ever happened ever, nothing was ever created ever, and that is all.

This is the absolute and complete and utter truth, and you need to understand that you can understand this simple concept. Logic is a powerful tool, and logically and in any other conceivable or inconceivable sense, this must be true and must be a fact, and if you disagree with me, please try and convince me otherwise?

Well, fortunately for us, there is a logic loop here.

"Nothing ever existed ever"/"Something always existed forever".

Here is the simple almost accidental loop whereby conciousness comes into being. "Nothing ever existed ever" needs the concept "Something" to be defined. You can look at it in a few different ways, but they come down to the same basic conclusion. Either "nothing existing forever" means "something exists forever", or you can go with the "nothing" continuing forever needed "something" to be there in order for it to be nothing. I personally go for the final conclusion.

You can say "life cannot be explained", but if you say that, then I humbly submit that it can and is explained in terms of the above.

Thus we have infinite potential counterbalanced by infinite nothingness.

Infinite potential, in the beginning, is identical to infinite nothing. The nothing created the potential.

Nothing split and created potential is a crude way of explaining it.

Infinite potential, lets call it Father God for argument's sake, ("Void" and "Father God" would be the same thing), was NOTHING.

Nothing had very, very, very little to go on, in order to convert from infinite potential (which is absolutely nothing forever), into life as we know it.

Thus when the Void became concious, it went through a very very very long period of suffering. This was the period of the birthing of Father God.

Why suffering? You cannot "conceive" a single thing, you cannot "do", you cannot "create", you cannot "anything" because first you have to get these concepts defined.

First thoughts of God:

Concious = ME = I AM.
WHAT I AM = SUFFER/TORTURE (is it nice to sit nowhere, be concious, and not be able to think anything or do anything, and for this to continue forever?)

I think that one can proceed down from this, if one puts one in God's shoes (which one was), and life could only have evolved in one possible way. And we're even lucky it did.

Scarier: We are now in a position to move life onto a new and better level, it is our own personal responsibility to, and if we don't, we might land up in a very, very, very, very bad situation indeed.

FOREVER.

THE INFINITE VOID COUNTERBALANCED BY AN INFINITE NUMBER OF CONCIOUSNESSES SUFFERING, TORTURED SECOND BY SECOND BY SECOND, AND NO WAY OUT OF IT EVER.

I humbly submit, somewhat pessimistically, that we are there already. Lets move our asses and get the hell out of here.

I don't know how much more plainly to state this?

Can someone, anyone, anyone, please take responsibility, even pretend to, for helping God out of this mess of creation?

Can anyone even understand that there might be a problem which we might have the key to? That maybe we need to jump up to the level of God, and say, "HELLO GOD! I FOUND IT! I FOUND A COOL WAY TO LIVE! YOUR SUFFERING WASN'T IN VAIN!"

My cool way of living involves love which increases in magnitude, elimination of scarcity, and win-win games.

But I thought about it, I'm some stupid idiot human with no authority or credibility, and I'm sure that living in a fantastically fantasy beautiful idiotically insanely lovely existence forever, getting better and better and better, isn't your cup of tea!!!!!

!SOMEONE, ANYONE, ANYONE, HELP ME SPREAD THIS MESSAGE OF JOY AND HOPE! I'm a useless saviour of life everywhere everywhen! Maybe my message of hope can be picked up by someone who relates better with people.



GodsProxy


Describing the ultimate place to live is ridiculously hard. For the stupid reason that it is so desirable, so possible, and so ridiculously ecstatically beautiful, that words fail me completely.

You might describe such a place as "heaven", but the word evokes images which are completely inadequate, and "heaven" as we understand it would be a monotonously boring place compared to the place I am attempting to describe.

First lets give it any arbitrary name. You may call it whatever you wish. My own favourite name is the "Universe of Pure Unconditional Love", however, if you simply call it the "Universe of Life" or the "Universe where I'd like to live" you would be closer to the truth.

Words continue to fail me!

Imagine a universe where a little boy or girl can create their own fantasy world, complete with participants, invite any of their friends to play, and live that for a while, and it is absolutely as real as any reality you are presently perceiving, except there can be mermaids, magic and underwater kingdoms, and you're starting to get the idea!

I can't think of a single human being who wouldn't welcome the opportunity with every single cell in their being to join such a universe!

Now, before you jump in, make it safe: Make it so that we don't hurt people, make it so that we love without hating. Take every positive concept you've ever found in earth, remove the negative part, remove the idea you have to suffer in order to learn and gain experience, and you've got your cake and can eat it too!

Now take all the stories and imaginations of every being who ever existed on earth, use it to seed an ever expanding variety of cross polinating win-win realities, then take every other planet out there to use as ideas as well... do you realize that you can have fun FOREVER, never get bored ever, you make damn sure you are safe forever and every body else stays safe forever.... in other words, if you think there are problems to being happy and fulfilled forever, these are SMALL problems, just solve them you idiots, then you can have lots and lots and lots of fun!

Goodness, lets all get around in think tanks and stop working and start wishing this life into existence! Reality is created through AGREEMENTS of many Gods together! Isn't this worth fighting for?

If we're the first to think of this, WOW, what a win, lets make it work. I somehow suspect this place exists already, and we're off on a stupid sub-standard reality here called Earth. Either case, these should be small problems.

Being of Pure Unconditional Love and Light, me? Sure. Want to rescue everyone who is suffering unnecessarily in thoughts of limitation and pain? Sure. Willing to take the Sword of light and plunge it in the depths of the stupid God who might be responsible for this reality, shouting "I TERMINATE YOU G*DDAMNED M*THERF*C*** DEAD!" just to get a chance to go play in my fantasy universe? Me myself only, not bothered with anyone else? Any day. If that's my only option then sure. Otherwise, if and when I get there, hopefully with your help, I'll offer this to anyone I can find as a "deal of a lifetime". I doubt I will get a single refusal.

Loving but strong.

Loving but not stupid and innocent (anymore).

When and if I get there, I will sacrifice my eternal soul for the continuation of such a reality.

Do you realize that evil would be defined by a being being opposed to such existence, and evil beings getting a kick out of putting beings of light to torture?

Therefore with joy comes responsibility.

Are you love or evil?

Take responsibility now.

I'm trying my best to.

Maybe oneday you will, too.

personalreality

your nickname is awfully presumptuous, perhaps even a bit conceited. 

did god ok that?
be awesome.

GodsProxy

Quote from: personalreality on October 25, 2010, 11:27:07
your nickname is awfully presumptuous, perhaps even a bit conceited. 

did god ok that?

Well, if its OK with you, then two have OKed it, and it makes it even more worthwhile :)

For the record,  "I'm not the saviour, I'm just a very naughty boy".

personalreality

be awesome.

GodsProxy

I was pleasantly surprised to be referred to the following site:

http://www.thevenusproject.com

My hopes are of a spiritual nature but I believe this would get us to the same place.

AmbientSound

mmm... meat suit... Where's my bottle of hot sauce?

GodsProxy

Based on the principles I have proposed, reality has been changed for the better.

See breaking news (first a little sermon).

http://unbelievableexistence.wikidot.com/

I'm starting to relate more to Christ as he sat on the cross than ever before.

Sorry guys I haven't got the luxury of posting anywhere else. Hope somebody is taking notice of this.