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Title: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: the8reader on May 09, 2011, 22:40:06
i dont do it all the time and im sorry if i cant post things like this so if it needs to be deleted go ahead.

I smoke cuz it helps my eyes. the will smoke go to bed and the rest of the day my eyes feel better/less stressed...

anyways i dont want to smoke it anymore but was wondering what else i can do with it to still get you know buzzed...

and how much to do i need for each recipe of you have recipies... i only have 1/8 waht can i do with that much.

Disclaimer: I just wanna point out that the Astral Pulse does not condone the use of any drugs in an effort to project ~Xanth
Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: Fourthdimension on May 10, 2011, 05:11:21
Well am pretty new to weed and i only smoked it for a few weeks because within that time i found it to be more of a hinderance to projection and dream recall rather than aiding my journey.

I done all sorts with it because to be honest i dont really smoke cigarettes because i consider it unclean for my body not that i have anything against people who do smoke. To be honest i usually just smoke through a pipe which is just as bad as smoking but a year ago when i would try this thing on and off mainly due to peer pressure from my brother lol well around about that time i  had this fasanastion with tea haha and so i put a whole £20 bag into my tea pot and although it tasted horrible it did get me pretty high but saying that a year later i tried cooking with it because from research on the internet it was meant to get you more high than smoking and other than the pesticides if any then there is nothing to worry about but this never got me stoned at all . luckily i saved money on cooking because my mate said "michael stop been a twat and just put it in the banana you dont have to cook a whole f***n meal" and so i did haha.

So unless your rich there is nt really any good alternatives to smoking because if you wanna get high from cooking you will need a lot . the tea worked but never got me high as a bong would and a bong would nt use half as much as the tea pot lol.

I have read about vapourisers which take all the unclean particles out of the smoke before you inhale it. I think this should be the best thing to get high without harming your body but then again if its taking out unclean particles maybe its taking out some active ingridients and preventing you from getting stoned.

I have a pretty werid personality.....the all or nothing type of personality which kind of makes me easily addicted to things haha even coffee and at one point i would drink loads of wine and same with the weed in the past few weeks but what i am doing now is just doing everything in moderation....i have nt drank beer for a month which is really really good for me and as for weed i am only gonna smoke it once every few weeks or once a month. i guess moderation wont damage you as much as overconsumption and maybe it wont damage you at all.

Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: TofuAttack on May 10, 2011, 06:50:57
this is my first post in a long time.

anyways i myself enjoy this herb very often and i use a vaporiser (Magic flight launch box, i highly recommend it) because it's the healthiest way to inhale it since it pretty much only extracts the thc in vapor form leaving the cannaboids behind, also saves weed and gives you a better, more clear "high".

there are a lot of guides for DIY homemade vapes online or you could try making cannabutter and make hash brownies or other edibles. if you do want to make edibles, google the recipe for cannabutter.
Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: Fourthdimension on May 10, 2011, 09:39:50
Do you have a link to the vape you purchased and how much did it cost?

Thanks
Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: AstralBlogger on May 10, 2011, 20:02:52
Using pot or salvia or anything else external can make your projections go completely haywire. Its best to rely on your own merits and do it that way. Otherwise your astral projections can be somewhat disturbing!
Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: Astral316 on May 10, 2011, 21:35:31
Quote from: the8reader on May 09, 2011, 22:40:06I smoke cuz it helps my eyes.

Yea okay buddy. :lol:

If you don't smoke often then I wouldn't worry about a little weed smoke in your lungs. Vapes are okay, bought one a few summers ago and got bored with it pretty quickly... the high is subpar and the preparation is a pain in the butt. Nothing like an old fasioned drag off a bowl.
Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: blis on May 11, 2011, 05:44:23
Do you think honey made by bees that only feed on canabis plants would get you high?

Sorry for the random nature of my post.
Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: TofuAttack on May 11, 2011, 09:17:23
Quote from: Fourthdimension on May 10, 2011, 09:39:50
Do you have a link to the vape you purchased and how much did it cost?

Thanks

i bought mine from this website, and i got an extra titanium grinder too, but it looks like they increased their price. maybe have a look around, they sell it on lots of sites.
http://www.puffitup.com/Magic-Flight-Launch-Box-Vaporizer-Combo-Package-p/magicflight.htm (http://www.puffitup.com/Magic-Flight-Launch-Box-Vaporizer-Combo-Package-p/magicflight.htm)

it's fairly expensive but in my honest opinion i reckon it's worth it if you smoke at least 4 times a week, you'll be saving like 40% of your weed too.

@Blis no i'm almost certain it would not.
Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: the8reader on May 13, 2011, 17:00:33
im not going to try and use it to project... and it does help my eyes makes them not so stressed after i smoke.. like the next day.. as for the honey thing i would live to see bees make canna honey i think it would work... and i will check out this vapor thing thnks for the input...
Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: personalreality on May 13, 2011, 17:54:15
you probably shouldn't use marijuana to try to project.

makes it too difficult to maintain a singular focus.

personal experience.
Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: the8reader on May 13, 2011, 21:34:33
Quote from: personalreality on May 13, 2011, 17:54:15
you probably shouldn't use marijuana to try to project.

makes it too difficult to maintain a singular focus.

personal experience.

I dont use it to project.. nut shell. get high play call of duty.. makes eyes feel good.. go to bed.. wake up/project for some time.. go to work.. and repeat. that is my days when i am working haha.. dont use it to get an ap.. i ap all the time.. dont have to try. thanx for the concern..

just wanted some input so i dont have to smoke it and how to make foods with it and such.. so i dont by a bag and wast it and then not get high haha man that would suck.. to wast a bag and not get high haha..
Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: Lexy on May 14, 2011, 01:30:23
I am curious why you posted your problem here, shouldn't you be at a stoner forum?
Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: personalreality on May 14, 2011, 08:26:23
a stoner forum would have been better indeed.

unless you want to eat it or drink it, the only way to ingest it is to smoke it.....or push it.....(up your bum, seriously).



lol!
Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: ether2 on May 14, 2011, 08:33:53
Lol

good luck

love all
Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: the8reader on May 15, 2011, 12:11:38
i thought there would be some stoners on this forum... that why i didnt look for another forum
Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: personalreality on May 15, 2011, 12:17:22
oh there certainly are many stoners here.

however, we have a "flexible" rule against talking about drugs in relation to projection.

we try to promote natural methods of projection, like meditation and such.

so, on the whole, we don't really talk about drug use.
Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: the8reader on May 15, 2011, 12:48:09
ok i understnand that but. as i said befor not useing it for ap and stuff.. but i am sorry and i will fine some other place. just took a short cut thought some one would have a recipie.. if anyone does just pm me on here thanx
Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: personalreality on May 15, 2011, 14:13:31
i know you're not asking for use in projection, which is why it isn't such a big deal.

the first time i joined this forum stookie handed me my butt about posting about drugs.  i left the forum for a while after that because he ticked me off (this was at least 2 or 3 years ago now).  things have gotten a little more lax about drug talk. 

for example, i've shared my stories of heroin addiction and my treatment and all that fun stuff. 

that kind of thing seems to be ok.

your post is straddling that line between ok and too far.

i don't have a problem with it, but the idea is that this forum is global and there are so many different legalities across different countries that have to be considered (so it's just easier to ban it all) and also there are people under 18 (legal consent age in many places) which means we have a whole other responsibility to worry about, ie, are we promoting drug use to children?

Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: TofuAttack on May 16, 2011, 07:23:03
wait wait wtf, who pushes bud up their butt. WTF! pills and coke i've heard of but weed? WTFWHODOESTHAT!

there are a lot of chepaer vaporisers, you can even make a homemade one from a lightbulb.
its good for your lungs because its not smoke, it's vapor, like steam.
Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: personalreality on May 16, 2011, 10:56:40
nobody does tofu, it was a joke.
Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: Astral316 on May 16, 2011, 14:15:30
Quote from: TofuAttack on May 16, 2011, 07:23:03
its good for your lungs because its not smoke, it's vapor, like steam.

Umm, not really. :|
Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: TofuAttack on May 19, 2011, 11:15:25
Quote from: Astral316 on May 16, 2011, 14:15:30
Umm, not really. :|

" No smoke! Is the number one benefit of using a vaporizer. As the medical marijuana vaporizes you will note that a thin mist of vapour is created at this lower 338 °F (170 °C) temperature. Compare that to a typical marijuana joint which burns at temperatures of up to 2,012 °F (1,100 °C) and in the process creates many harmful carcinogens. Smoke is the prime cause of lung cancer and many respiratory disorders."

http://marijuanavaporizer.com/vaporizer-benefits.html
http://budfacts.com/169/marijuana-vaporizer-health-benefits/
Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: personalreality on May 19, 2011, 11:22:26
it's true.  you're basically breathing in water vapor, just like hot steam when you're sick.

the bong/hookah/water pipe is the big misconception.  the water doesn't filter the smoke, it just cools it down so you can stand a bigger hit.
Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: SomeRandom on May 19, 2011, 11:28:49
Well actually the water does filter the smoke, its why the bong water changes color.
Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: Astral316 on May 19, 2011, 11:29:11
Water vapor doesn't get you high (I wish), so if you're getting high there's unhealthy material entering your lungs. I didn't say it wasn't more healthy than other forms of smoking, I'm sure it is... but to say it's good for your lungs is an exaggeration.
Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: personalreality on May 19, 2011, 11:30:45
Quote from: SomeRandom on May 19, 2011, 11:28:49
Well actually the water does filter the smoke, its why the bong water changes color.

the water changes color because little bits of ash and pot get pulled into the water chamber and steep like tea leaves.
Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: SomeRandom on May 19, 2011, 11:44:33
Well this is Wikipedia so it can be wrong...

"The rationale behind the use of a bong is the claim that the cooling effect of the water helps to reduce the chance of burning the mouth, airways, and lungs, thus using a bong to smoke is safer. The water can trap some heavier particles and water-soluble molecules, preventing them from entering the smoker's airways.[8] The mechanics of a bong are compared to those of a laboratory gas washing bottle."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bong
Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: personalreality on May 19, 2011, 12:18:49
seems reasonable.

my statistics professor was studying hookahs because that's become all the rage in the city i live in (like tobacco hookah bar).  she said that one of her biggest findings was that the water filtration didn't really help much aside from cooling the smoke (which the heat from the smoke burns all the little hairs in your throat and stuff like that).  long story short, she found that water filtration didn't making smoking pot or tobacco any healthier like a lot of people think.  i'm sure it does filter out some of the big stuff and water soluble stuff, it makes sense.  but it doesn't really make it any healthier.
Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: Summerlander on May 19, 2011, 12:26:47
Smoking anything can be dangerous...fact.
Bongs are filters...again FACT.
Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: personalreality on May 19, 2011, 12:43:48
smoking anything is indeed dangerous.

and water does act as a filter, absolutely.

but when it comes to smoking pot and tobacco, water filtration doesn't seem to offer as much reduction in harm as people have been lead to believe.  that's my point i guess.
Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: missgee on May 23, 2011, 10:59:30
Take Bilberry pills once a day every morning.  You can buy them at a pharmacy store like CVS or Walgreen's.  I too had pressure on my eyes and they even ached just about everyday, until I started taking those.


I haven't taken Bilberry pills since I ran out, but I also haven't had any pressure ever since I took them.
Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: the8reader on May 23, 2011, 17:20:20
that sounds good i will have to look for them thank you very much.. does it help glacoma and other eye strains do you think... i will aske the person at the pharmacy thank you very much..
Title: Re: how to get high with out smokeing....
Post by: missgee on June 05, 2011, 14:40:05
Yes, they actually do!  In  fact, the very reason I found out about them was when I was looking to natural remedies for glaucoma.  It runs in my family:  my mother has it and her niece has it.

I remember the symptoms I had were the same symptoms my mother had before she was diagnosed so I assumed it was leading to glaucoma if I didn't have it already, but I didn't have insurance like she did, so I looked for natural remedies and Bilberry pills were what I came across as the answer. 

However, I was able to get a check up on my eyes not too long after that and it came to find out I didn't have it, but the pills helped with getting rid of my symptoms.

I'm not a doctor though, so I can't tell you whether or not you can skip taking eye drops for Glaucoma, but the pills help.