i have a propositions!!!!!!:)

[psychedelia]

hello i am ryan a 17 yr old high school senior. i first would like to say i rather like this forum site better than any other the people here keep a more open mind then others such as dmt nexus my post about time wave zero under the 2012 section i posted there and since that i am now unable to make new topics bacause i posted a "fringe" theory and there is no 100% fact conclusive evidence to support it and they only involve themseles in the known truth.

now to my point im very interested in lucid dreaming and psychonautics thus what thing plays a big role as a tool for these things? why psychedelics more notibly entheogens i propose we try make a poll and see who would be interested in having an entheogen forum topic(for explanatory purposes and for the benefit of curious minds...to aid in knowledge and to prevent possible self injury)


if you agree with me post a comment and lets see who we can get to come along with this idea and see were we can take it:)


kind regards, ryan:)

[Lionheart]

 Ryan you are 17 years of age and do not know anything about drugs yet. Stop them before it is too late. I am 47 and have seen many people attempt what you are doing right now. They use these drugs as a way to see things differently, as an experiment, but that will definitely lead to disaster. There have been actual acclaimed Scientists that worked with DMT/LSD and drugs of that kind that fell into the same loop as well. Those drugs are incredibly powerful and will leave a lasting effect on you. Most people I saw that experimented like you are now ending up either committing suicide or being institutionalized. We had a guy when I was in High School that had the highest IQ out of everyone. He started messing around with Acid/DMT/Mushrooms, you could see he was always in another world. Then his eyes started showing it, they were constantly red, he then started having bouts of nausea, which sometimes led to vomiting right in the classroom. His next effect from this was death, he committed suicide 2 weeks later.  Don't mess with them.

[psychedelia]

See dude died I get what ur saying but ppl will still do it I'm proposing a way to teach and help prevent harm.and first you don't know me ok don't assume I'm in knowledgeable on drugs.  Well my interests in particular now coke meth and all that dumb stuff Idc and idk anything about em.   Why not create a safe environment to save and aid the ones who will over look the risk for the experience??there is no reason it's proper morals and ethics just think of it a diff way from oh gosh drugs!they are bad and kill!     They kill when not used properly

[AJDIN]

Ryan do not take drugs, i am 19 years old and i see myself in your position back when i was 17

It is clear too me that your going too get on a drug happy rampage now

I remember being in your position, LSD and Mushrooms is SO good, only do them because they are "natural" wont ever touch
the hard sh*t like cocaine and heroine, only do the natural sh*t!

I understand what your saying, but drugs isn't the only way too get people too "see the good side" of the world

Although it has its ups and downs, the start was incredible and it was a new world for me and seeing life in a new perspective,
hysterical laughter and fun you could not even imagine with my buddy's

I ended up abusing LSD and Mushrooms till i had a horrible trip that that i do not wish for anyone, set me off them for life

I'm fine now because i know it was just a bad trip but i do have flash backs here and there which do effect my every day life, like
staring at my hand i'll trance out and colors will become brighter till i stop staring, eye sight's noticeably gotten worse

I don't regret it, it has happened for a reason, i am a happy person today and am more aware of others around me and am generally
alot better guy, but why do you need drugs too get too this stage?

It's your life - do what you want. Just please don't be ignorant

[Darklon]

I am 17 as well turning 18. I have quit ALL drugs 3 months ago. It is not worth it, you will meet bad people who will do horrible things with or to you like I have experienced sadly   . There is no need for an external substance to bring internal feelings and mindset when you can create the same feelings on your own. Your body and mind are capable of this.

Try this

http://iso-tones.com/

I use these everyday and I have grown and changed spiritually, I no longer need drugs. Isochronic tones will not replace the drugs in your life but the spiritual growth will and I find these much more enjoyable than drugs anyways because I am in control of my feelings.

Edit: Drugs make it harder to project and lucid dream at will in the long-run, best not ruin an experience far greater than any drug considering you can recreate those feelings in dreams and projection anyways   .

[AJDIN]

Whatsup Darklon,

What do you use these iso-tunes for?

Meditation?

[phase423]

Is this a joke?  You want to make a topic discussing a highly illegal activity.  Unless the Astral Pulse staff wants to hire a lawyer, I suggest we keep things as they are.

Maybe you should try projecting instead of tripping.  Just a thought.

[psychedelia]

It's discussion it's legal bro.  Check oh the dmt nexus whole site dedicated to psychedelics

[Lionheart]

 Ok, I took that other post down. DJ Vishnu Meditation Series is one of the best line-ups of Isochronic Tones I have found yet. There are 10 in all.

[Darklon]

Be careful about clicking on that link for Iso-Tones from Darklon there. It froze my computer twice and told me it was a malicious site. I'm sure that's not Darlon's fault, but I just wanted to give you guys a heads up.

My computer does not freeze from clicking on it. I go there every day to check the forums there. I'm using Mozilla Firefox, Windows 7, and McAfee security. I doubt there is a problem with the site it may be your OP, network, or browser itself. I would like to inform you that the site is trustworthy otherwise I would still be using I-Doser.

Isochronic tones are similar to binaural beats but you do not need headphones for them to work because it's not "mimicking" the frequencies in a sense. More efficient brainwave entrainment.

Edit: I would also like to state that they are FREE, if you wish to download one of the tones in mp3 format right click on the link for the tone and select, "Save Link As" and you should be good. And you are all welcome in advance if you ind yourselves satisfied. I am.

Your brain emits certain frequencies for different feelings and activities, this recreates those frequencies so you can entrain them. The more you use it the stronger it gets.

Yes, this is much like meditation, meditating with the tones will improve effectiveness. There are spiritual tones designed for meditation. Enjoy.

[AJDIN]

Mine didn't have any virus effects or anything... site is fine guys

[urshebear]

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_permanent_astral_topics/drugs-t18779.0.html

[AJDIN]

Darklon any other thing's you have noticed with using iso-tones?

Do you use a 10minute meditation session or have it playing in the background while you do various stuff?

CHEEEERS

[psychedelia]

Guys I need a website to look at I finally tried my first psychedelic LSA took 12 of seeds I felt full body effects but no visuals why could this be is there like a genetic trait that could make visuals not happen?? I do have sensitive cb receptors on an extreme level maybe it could explain thus too??

[psychedelia]

If he is talking about binaural beats listen to it for about 8 minutes that's the normal time it tames to work but sum ppl it takes less or even up to 30 minutes

[Darklon]

Darklon any other thing's you have noticed with using iso-tones?

Do you use a 10minute meditation session or have it playing in the background while you do various stuff?

CHEEEERS

It depends on the length of the tone. Both, I can lay in bed meditating to it or listen to whilst doing other things simultaneously.

[Homesick]

I'm sick of people or their friends abusing drugs and then telling others how bad the drugs are.
It's like eating burgers to the point you get fat and then say how burgers make you fat.
Then there's people that wont make their own research and buy in to all the misinformation.
And... last but not least people who glorify some drugs and wont speak of the dangers.

I second real topic on this because people just wont get it.
Make clear things like dosage, preparation, responsibility, biological and psychological effects, time between uses, use of the drug and so on. We could talk about drugs in philosophical grounds and use in society as well.

Just to make one thing very clear, brain develops all the way to age 25 or so and i wont recommend interfering with that development, my first usage of drug other than alcohol and caffeine was at 25... i was bit bitter when i realized how bad drug alcohol is and how young society spoon-feeds it to you. if i had know i would have stayed clear of it too.

Simple thing to make your drug usage safe other than dosage is interval between uses, here's some:
DMT once in two years, LSD/psilocybin 2 to 3 times a year, cannabis twice a month, extacy i would limit to couple times in your life just to be safe. Speed, cocaine, heroine and all that jazz, i would say no.
And this is on the 100% safe side, responsible adult can monitor itself and see what is safe.

Psilocybin 2 to 3 times a year actually keeps your mind healthier, just had to puke that out

Peace.

[Darklon]

Just workout really hard, eat spicy foods. That releases endorphins. If you're going to smoke weed grow it yourself, it's always better and you know what's in it. I know people who put their weed in a bag of fruit to make it smell dank or cover it in dust to make it look like it has crystals. Some people even use animal tranquilizers to make it seem stronger. Please don't but from other people, even if they are trustworthy chances are they don't know the person it originally came from or what the people he or she bought it from has done to it.

Besides, it's free and you can smoke/vaporize as much as you want. And vaporize, it efficiently uses the THC, you will feel at least 3 times higher vaping it up than smoking. You can make your own vaporizer by making an extra chamber on top of the bowl that is layered with screens on the inside. This will cause the flame to dissipate and hot air moves through the bowl causing it to vaporize.

I am the master ex-stoner, ask me anything. I will share my knowledge with you because I want you to be safer, excrement's bad for your lungs, vaporize it son. You get higher, it's easy to make, and you save A LOT of money if you buy your weed/you conserve WAAAAY better.

Edit: Work out before you smoke because that'll stimulate your receptors causing you to get WAY higher as well. If you get tolerant take a T-Break. Don't smoke 24/7 or YOU WILL become psychologically addicted. Always try to improve on something when you blaze otherwise you are wasting your time and will feel worse about yourself. Words from the wise.

[AJDIN]

Homesick - you really think drug happy teenagers are going too stop LSD/mushrooms and limit the use too 2-3 times a YEAR?
Weed 2-3 times a MONTH?

Your making me laugh lol

Hallucinogens are an amazing experience, if you have not tried any of the drugs then please do not comment, your opinion is invalid

[Lionheart]

 Plain and simple, using drugs to gain access to the Astral Plane is a "cop out". You are admitting to yourself that you have no sense of your own willpower or commitment to learn how to get there by your own natural means. You may be able to have fun and experience it , but you will never be able to control the experience or learn from it. Do you really think you are being drawn to it for a "joy ride"? This is why Astral Projection gets such a bad rap, people think that the only ones doing it are the "hippy people" all ramped up on their drugs.  They don't take it seriously.

[urshebear]

I'm sick of people or their friends abusing drugs and then telling others how bad the drugs are.
It's like eating burgers to the point you get fat and then say how burgers make you fat.
Then there's people that wont make their own research and buy in to all the misinformation.
And... last but not least people who glorify some drugs and wont speak of the dangers.

nobody can deny that drugs are bad, I don't discriminate though if that's what you want to do that's fine its not always idiots who get into drugs sometimes its the most intelligent minds that just get bored of this reality. People should always live their life to make themself happy.
In saying that it doesn't take long to be addicted and become like that crazy junky who walks up my street sometimes, talking to herself and peeing her pants, selling her body for $3 a pop to save up for her next fix (Not Joking)

[Shivers]

Plain and simple, using drugs to gain access to the Astral Plane is a "cop out". You are admitting to yourself that you have no sense of your own willpower or commitment to learn how to get there by your own natural means. You may be able to have fun and experience it , but you will never be able to control the experience or learn from it. Do you really think you are being drawn to it for a "joy ride"? This is why Astral Projection gets such a bad rap, people think that the only ones doing it are the "hippy people" all ramped up on their drugs.  They don't take it seriously.

I'm with Lionheart on this and I'm not altogether convinced that taking drugs would lead to a genuine Obe.  The Obe would just be tainted by the drug's effects-ie-how much of the "trip/Obe is genuine, how much is just the drugs?.
I don't care if other teens want to experiment with drugs,I did once too.  But I feel this taints and cheapens the whole experience of astral travel.

[psychedelia]

darklon thank you! i use to grow my own for that exact purpose or buy the really cheap weed that most ppl would be like eh i want the strong s*** not that. i went to school with a kid who spent $35 on a gram. t was just low grade cannabis laced with crystal meth and he flipped out when he smoked it all and it ruined a whole high school year for him cause he had to bring it to the attention of his parents cause he was scared to death on what was happening.   

[Stookie_]

The fact is, this forum exists to assist people in learning skills that help them naturally astral project. Drugs, or "entheogens", aren't what we're about.

[psychedelia]

it was more of an idea that i thought might benefit people. im just proposing this to see if anyone agrees haha