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Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: Nay on July 08, 2004, 20:12:25
Aww, Beavis... say it isn't so?

I'm not quite sure how to respond.  I know you've been a member for a loooong time, and always thought you to be upbeat..sorta.[;)]

But you've never complained of such things, so now I'm worried and don't know what to do.  Are you protecting yourself?  Perhaps it is you just getting older and feeling different things? unfortunatly, I know how that goes..

I can't remember the thread off hand, but someone posted about feeling a moment of Grrrrrrr..what is next, I am stuck.  Could that be it?  I wish I had the lightbulb moment for you, but I don't.

I will keep you in my thoughts and hope someone else can shine a light on this for you..

Good thoughts for you,

Nay
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: cube on July 08, 2004, 20:43:22
Didn't you say you can transmute negative energy into positive energy? Maybe you should try hanging around an S/M bar or go to a clan rally and flip their polarity.
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: Nay on July 08, 2004, 21:07:54
That has got to be the best advise I'd heard in years cube, you should totally run for president!! Hurry, run, don't stop, make your knowledge known!

Nay..aka..your girlfriend..*kisses her sweetie, cube* (http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/liebe/love-smiley-018.gif)

*swoons, and thinks, I'm gonna be famous because of Cubes knowledge*

Aww, but I love that cube of mine..(http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/liebe/love-smiley-001.gif)



Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: mactombs on July 09, 2004, 09:23:21
I know this isn't the most upbeat reply, but it may be because your physical body is ill and your energy is all being spent there. When was the last time you had a physical?
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: Van-Stolin on July 09, 2004, 11:06:44
How long ago did this start?  If it started just this month, maybe it has something to do with the upcoming Blue Moon at the end of the month, but who knows.  Just try more Energy work bevies, but I wouldn't over excert your energy body too much.  Like runlola said, the awnser to this mystery will come to you.
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: Kazbadan on July 09, 2004, 11:15:54
Do you suffer of depression, insomnia, hipersonia or anything like that?

This kind of mental/physical weakness problems affects our capacity to do anything.

btw i think i am gonna make a thread related to that. I suffer of hypersonia (being tired all the day because of insomnias) and that is affecting my entire life.

Sometimes, problems like this affect you psi powers...


(are using any medicaments? maybe their chemical structure affects too your capacitys)
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: General-Army on July 10, 2004, 10:48:41
i used to feel as though i had no energy, maybe you havent been getting enough sleep? A week and a half after school ended and i got my 9 hour a night sleep my energy came back and i feel alot more energized. I thought i lost it for good, but then right after i started to get more rest i got it back.
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: Rob on July 10, 2004, 11:14:47
Have you changed as a person much? Become more stressed? More negative in general? That sort of thing will really sap your energy. Possibly some sort of lifestyle or attitude change. Or you got a neg of some sort mincing around.
Eat ormus....
Rob
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: beavis on July 10, 2004, 17:19:36
Nay, yes it is so [:(]

cube, I can change pyro's negative energy into positive, but I dont know about other people's. It would probably have to be directed at me, and since I'm not black, I dont think the clan rally would work well. Maybe I should walk around in a shirt that says "your god sucks d***".

mactombs, I think you're right. I cant do anything about it and I dont want to talk about that.

Van-Stolin, it started about a year ago when I got hurt. I'm mostly recovered physically now, but not my energy.

General-Army, I'm on vacation so I dont use an alarm clock and do sleep until 1 or 2 pm.

Inguma, I have become more negative. I cant help it.

Beavis..you can't say THAT..[:O]
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: Nick on July 10, 2004, 18:01:12
There is a theme in Robert Bruce's Practical Psychic Self-Defense that is repeated throughout the book. That is, the theme of loss of energy, possible causes and recommended countermeasures. Given what you've written here, beavis, you may want to take a look (if you haven't done so already). In any event, it is a worthwhile read, and may be just what you could use right now.


Very best,
Nick
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: kiauma on July 11, 2004, 08:16:38
Wow, we sure are full of advice here - and I'm no exception.  [:P]

Ya know, I've always been apretty upbeat person, though as I've gotten older life has taken it's toll.  I was talking it over with a young guy at work (he's 27) just last week and I kind of put together a lot of things that he agreed to as well.

Do you like your life?  Do you find yourself always lacking, running, or both?  Did you always envision yourself in a different place than you find yourself now?

A person's expectations can be very disappointing and disillusioning as we get older, leading us to think something is terribly wrong.  Over time, this feeling can develop into a subtle but ever-present fear that something is terribly wrong - and fear is draining.

It is all linked up in passion, purpose and dharma.   It is a non-acceptance of reality.  Looking closely, I began to understand that I had started to view life as my enemy.   A good explanation of this is in Eckhart Tolle's book 'The Power of Now'.  Of course constantly being at odds with my life left me terribly drained.  He even recomends a very simplified version of Robert Bruce's energy work!

At bottom, what I needed was an attitude adjustment.   I was able to recall how I felt when I was at the peak of my powers, and the differences that my outlook had caused, and was causing.  Slowly, over time, I have regained my energy, and my dreams are even starting to come back.  [:)]

So, I don't know if it will help you, but I see a lot of the same general kind of malaise in most people around me. I think if more people could simply look deeply inside themselves there would be a lot less of it.
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: beavis on July 12, 2004, 13:43:28
kiauma u r probably right. my life sucks without my energy.
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: Rastus on July 12, 2004, 14:00:06
Being recently recovered from severe clinical depression, I can sympathise.  Been down the darkside, and its not a pretty sight, especially on a WellButrin induced Mania with homicidal tendicies [B)]
Anger is a form of energy, but its really bad Karma, and it is truly the darkside of the force[;)]

So, sit down and examine your life.  Figure what has changed (or not) and why it's affecting you.  Either you've done something, or not done what you should.  For me, I somehow stopped caring.  That's all, something simple, but I nearly threw in the towel on my family and life, which now I can see is pretty dang good!
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: Nay on July 12, 2004, 14:43:29
Beavis you will be in my thoughts and prayers..and don't worry, it will all work out!!

Nay [:)]
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: Kane98969 on July 13, 2004, 01:58:10
Maybe you're interpreting this all wrong.  It could be your negative views on this "energy loss" that perpetuate the stagnant lull in your energy.  

Sometimes people need time to slow down to allow time to absorb what they've learnt.  Sometimes life will be stagnant, but take it as a sign that it was meant to be that way.

You could take it as a positive synchronotical event that is guiding you towards an ever higher awareness and tap directly into the source.

Hey, I've recently read a book that has had profound impact on myself and I would like to share it with you:

The Celestine Prophecy by James Redfield

It has helped me in many situations and I hope it helps you too.
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: beavis on July 13, 2004, 14:47:24
Kane, a lot of people agree with you that whatever happens is "meant" or for a good reason.

F*&k that.

It is completely a negative change. Its not guiding me to higher awareness. Its toward lower. I'm almost astrally blind.



Nay, were you in my energy about 40 minutes ago (when I woke up)? Somebody was. If it was anybody who reads this, do that again please!

p.s. Beavis, I have droped you a PM! Hope it helps? Cheers, S [:)]
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: GANAMOHA on July 13, 2004, 15:14:44
hello i need help develping my powers
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: Kane98969 on July 13, 2004, 17:16:51
but a negative event is only relative.  The same event can be seen as both negative and positive though a different viewpoint.

For example, If I didn't want to go to a party and somebody phoned me up, I would take it in a negative way and would just want to sleep.  If, however, I wanted to go to that same party it would be a very positive thing.  I would be so happy to go to the party and visit my friends.  

I agree with the fact that being low on energy is a dissapointing thing, but there might be greater reasons behind it which make it good in the long run.  Through this, it might give you an opportunity for higher realizations and even greater energy in the future.

I hope you find the energy you seek.
(and when you do throw some of that energy over my way [^] )
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: beavis on July 13, 2004, 19:47:38
Parties are fun. Being astrally blind is not.
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: mactombs on July 14, 2004, 16:33:57
I agree with you, beavis, there is no need for you to take an inactive stance toward what's happening to you. What was said about it being a potentially positive experience is true - but I would say that it will probably become so because you make it so.

There are some other possibilities for lack of energy. One is what is known as "larvae", which in magical theory are basically etheric scavangers. Usually these consume the etheric bodies that have been cast off from recently dead animals or people, but they will also be attracted to weakened entities as well. If you were in an accident or ill lately, it may be possible that they have been attracted and have been eating away your energy. An easy way to get rid of them is to leave a bowl of vinegar out to evaporate.
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: Rastus on July 14, 2004, 17:00:18
So find a good metaphysical healer, in the flesh so to speak.  I have done distance healing, but only with relatives and close friends.  Doing the analysis to find out whats wrong in the first place is something that really needs to be done hands on (at least for me anyway).

I mean now I can ask myself why I sank so deep into depression, when I had the power to heal myself all along?  Was it my higher-self trying to teach me a lesson to be more tolerant?  Was it a side affect of neglectling my metaphysical training?  Punishment for failing to act when I could have prevented something (there are cases I know of where I failed to help someone I could have for whatever reason). Vainglory?  I'm still not sure.
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: Kane98969 on July 14, 2004, 18:30:15
I never really thought of the parasite scenario, so maybe you guys are right and being passive about it could be worse.  Either way a positive outlook wont hurt [^]*smiles convincingly*

If it helps, Im pretty astrally blind myself [;)]
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: Aphex-twin on July 19, 2004, 04:25:03
Dear beavis i dont understand how you possibly lost your abilities,I honestly dont believe you because your one of the people that helped me with tk and influenced me to make a video,I am now moving many things which means you are moving many more larger and advanced things.I think that this is all an elaborate plan of your's to guide everyone thinking in the direction that you dont have any abilities but in fact you are more powerful than ever and are saying these things because the government is after you for some reason or something like that and you need to make it seem like you are powerless.
If you really did lose your abilities i hope you get them back and sucks to be you man.Maybe start smoking some pot or doing shrooms something to relax if your stressed and start over with energy manip than tk .
I know thats gotta be depressing as hell to have abilities and than to not have abilities i dont know really how to help you since you are the one that helped me lol,well anyway im off to practice some tk i hope you will be doing the same soon.[8]
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: Aphex-twin on July 19, 2004, 04:36:51
I thought of something else,could it be possible that someone is constantley draining your energy or some sort of psychic attack.
A picture of a person is worth a thousand energy signatures and in your video you do show yourself and i dont think it would be hard for a somewhat advanced psion to be draining you because they dont need to imagine what you look like since its right there in the vid
A picture is the greatest tool to connect with someone since everyone is an individual and in that picture no one person is the same as another, and a picture aswell as your physical body picks up your ethreal body or energy.Look close at pictures of people if you look closely and know what to look for alot of times you can see there energy.
Alright now im really going to practice tk 30-mins nonstop on the wheel than rolling the soda can,i would make another vid of more advanced stuff but i have nothing to prove to anyone anymore and i dont care about helping people who dont really want to be helped god damn skeptics and normal humans i hate them so much.
good luck with getting your telekinetic ability back if you really lost it hopefully you will be pwning you psiwheel again lol[}:)]

Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: Rakon on July 19, 2004, 04:52:22
Look, Beavis...
I've been deeply depressed 2 times by now and I've learned something. As long as I as want to go crying my heart out nothing good will happen. People will start turning away from me because they aren't really having fun spending time with a pessimist. If I think positively, good thinks start happening. Even if I live in an illusion of happiness, good things happen.

When you fall to the bottom, the only thing that you can do is go up... or stay down there for a while.
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: SmileySpirit14 on July 19, 2004, 19:55:02
yeah...come to think about it, its depression. u think ur life sux and u do always have a negative outlook. thats your reason right there. when im depressed im so drained i can barely walk, no joke. u can sit there and deny all the facts becuz u convinced yourself u are depressed and its always gonna be like that and u'll never get your energy. just deny and deny and ur negative illusion will become reality bcuz u wont wake up from it.
depression itself basically is a big fat, decieving, energy sucking demon. now use positive energy and thoughts and blast that b**ch away.
u need to learn how to laugh at your problems. and dont whine and say "i cant help it! im too depressed! my energy is gone! " well maybe the energy surges are just you. ever think of that? maybe ur waking up and u found sumthing to live for. its all u, ur not being dragged along.

~`*=-_'-,.H!a&V`e~~A!!h^A%p@P#y~~E;n*D&i!N%g!.,-'_-=*`~
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: Sephiroth on July 20, 2004, 10:22:32
Maybe your just plaged by a Psivamp...
I think its best not to worry about it and just relax.
But hey i don't know how you feel so my advice is worthless...

I hope you get your energy back soon....
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: Reality on July 21, 2004, 12:55:12
Meditate twice a day will keep the vampires away. Asana's for the chakra's are great too (meditating is passive, sometimes it's nice to add some movement while focussing on your breathing, I do asanas immediately after getting out of bed)

Aphex twin....LMAO...if there is a secret government they'il surely have some kind of nifty way to measure vibrational levels [;)]

Take care!
[8D]
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: Dorian on July 21, 2004, 17:05:49
Of course the guys at work call me an a-hole, and hey they aughta know. And sense I dont know anyone here I'll just force my opinion in at random moments.  
  Perhaps Beavis, you could try and forget all about your energies, your talents, and begin to focus on building the energy and talents of others more vigorously.  I do not know you, your habits, or daily activities, and forgive me for being presumpuious but maybe some volenteer work for the needy.  Instead of focusing on those things you no longer seem to have, cast an eye to those who seem to have lost everything.  In the shadow of those who have practically nothing your world might seem a little brighter. Especially if you help them feel better about theirs.  "We get what we give", is a common expression.  Perhaps you have your talents for that very reason, perhaps because of hard work on your part, or from good deeds in your very distant past, whatever the case the ledger is in the red, you need to balence it if you want things to return.  Maybe who knows.
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: volcomstone on July 21, 2004, 20:01:49
beavis,

    in times of most dire, is it not better or bitter to perspire?
maybe this is useless, even if it is a very weak bless.

the headaches will soon pass, repaired is the crack in the glass
it's so very hard to see in multi-dimensionality

perhaps too complex is your malady?
challenge the situation, eradicate the means,  become nothing beyond existance, allow one to annoy you with persistance.  

talk in neverending circle arguments, find the question in the answer, relieve the stress of illumination,

-----------light-------------->(*)<-----------------dark--------------
           Escha.lidiastriachfortchuan.siavarnoch.


P.S============
also do some yoga, or tai chi.
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: Yerzak06 on July 21, 2004, 21:11:05
here is how i see it, when i am happy i have more energy than when i am sad, i think most people will agree with that. so do something that makes you happy. I've read about these little things called endorphons. They give you a really energetic and positive feeling. Personally i always get them when i lift weights ( thats why my dad always tells me to mow the yard after im done working out cuase i cant say no.) so find something productive to do that will keep you happy and your energy shouldincrease. Also you actually can oversleep and that can cuase you to feel drained so try not to get to much or not enough sleep. I would say about 8-10 hours at most.
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: jason on July 23, 2004, 14:33:45
Beavis-I can really relate to what you say about losing energy-

I began astral projection/OBE about 13 years ago.when I first started,I was firing myself out of my body into space (RTZ),and astral dimensions.I would just simply lie down to relax,get this "funny feeling" and close my eyes,and would project.

over the years something strange happened-projection attempts got gradually more difficult (especially to the RTZ),and I had less and less success at my attempts.

I haven't projected concously in a couple years now[:(][:(][:(][:(]-despit having NO FEAR,and clear goals (planetary/space exploration).I have been practicing/meditating more frequently though recently,and feel as if things may change soon if I keep it up.

I have been on anti-depressants for severe social anxiety for about 2 years now-and that basically steals most of my energy right there.

while I haven't practiced/trained TK yet (I plan on it)I know what it feels like to have such a vital element of your life just gone.[:(!]

what I see in hindsight (20/20 vision-as the cliche goes) is that I never did enough so safeguard the energy I did have,and didn't do enough energy work to build more energy.I also didn't have a handle on my mental health.

it's also very important to remember the mind/body connection-an olympic athlete doesn't just run around trying to keep their body in shape-they also train their mind.metaphysics can be compared to a kind of "mental olympics",and therefore it's important to not only train the basic mental abilities,but to balance and strengthen ALL ASPECTS of your life path.

it may just be that the taking away of your abilities (and mine) are ways for the spirit (for want of better term) to get you to gather all of your resources,and learn from your mistakes and aspects of yours/my life that threaten the foundation of the search for transcendant knowledge-which is physical life experience itself.To get us to do ANYTHING to get that missing part of ourselves back-and next time,take it to a new level.

this is something I have only figured out VERY recently,and
I hope it helps[:)]

Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: Aphex-twin on July 23, 2004, 15:14:30
Beavis i can assure you that your abilities will be coming back better than ever if they already havent.Do you watch tv ?? if so dont watch any tv anymore because tv is the greatest mind control tool known to man and will bring you back to a state of normality,beavis and butthead is alright to watch though[:)].
So yeh no tv,no hard drugs,dont associate with the outside world to much till your abilities come back,because that aswell brings you back to a state of normality,normality sucks and is something i havent been exposed to for a couple of years.
If everything fails pm me and ill give you one of my tk techs if you are interested
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: Aphex-twin on July 23, 2004, 15:17:59
Oh yeh i notice that if my telekinetic energy ever seems to be decreasing i just concentrate on my pineal gland and it comes back better than ever.
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: wantsumrice on July 26, 2004, 00:32:17
Loss of energy or loss of motivation?  Or worse...both?
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: beavis on July 29, 2004, 16:43:06
^some of both

I'm getting some of my energy back. This morning while sleeping, after not projecting for a long time, I accidentally had the best astral projection ever. It was to the real time zone. It started right after a weird semi-lucid dream.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13614
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: LittleNinja on August 02, 2004, 00:07:26
Hey Beavis, i dont if this helps or not but i got this in my email the other day.  Read it if you like.  Later.[:)]

Message: 3        
  Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 12:55:34 EDT
  From:
Subject: Re: Recent Low Energy

RECENT LOW ENERGY
By Dr. Barbara LaRocca

If you have been suffering from low energy recently, you are among
the old souls who have had a complete energy matrix rewire. This
rewiring is a result of a higher energy field being installed, a
different level and type than previously experienced.

In the recent past, there has been a lot of energy upheaval, many
people have left the planet, and many of you have experienced a wide
variety of unusual life changes. This is part of a greater plan to
bring many people to maturity, more spiritual and psychic awareness,
and more power. There is a need for us to unite our forces to bring
more good into the world, and for this, there was a drastic increase
of power.

Whenever you run more energy through your circuits, it takes a while
for the system to change and adapt to the levels. This required re-
wiring that also means that the system was sometime more "down" for
repairs and upgrading. Nothing is wrong, you are doing better than
you ever have been-and it will continue to get better.

It is important to rest, take time to do spiritual practices no
matter how busy you are, and to keep your thoughts clean-clear of
self-criticism and negativity. Regularly feed your mind and soul
with beauty of any kind-nature, internal pictures of joy, music, etc.

In addition, do a meditation in which you extend your central column
of light-the tube like energy that runs through the middle of your
body-to the core of the earth, making sure it has no kinks or clogs.
Most of you have this column connected to the Divine, but you can
also be asking for energy to be downloaded from above and uploaded
from below. For additional assistance, questions, healings,
readings, Master Crystal Healing tools, and John of God crystal
baths, call me at 510-658-4337.

Dr. Barbara LaRocca writes for Crystal Wings and can be reached
through Crystal Wings, http://www.crystalwings.com/
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: beavis on August 16, 2004, 20:54:08
I dont think that^ is whats happening to me.

I'm slowly getting back some energy. In the last 2 weeks I had 1 projection (rtz, 1 minute), 2 times I did telekinesis, and 6 lucid dreams (some of them very short).

Its still not close to what it used to be. I could do telekinesis 6 times in 1 minute.
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: Eol007 on August 17, 2004, 02:06:28
quote:
Originally posted by beavis

I dont think that^ is whats happening to me.

I'm slowly getting back some energy. In the last 2 weeks I had 1 projection (rtz, 1 minute), 2 times I did telekinesis, and 6 lucid dreams (some of them very short).

Its still not close to what it used to be. I could do telekinesis 6 times in 1 minute.

This might sounds naff and very 70's, but have you had a look at Biorhythm charts?

Cheers,

S[:)]
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: beavis on August 17, 2004, 02:08:44
No. What is it?
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: Eol007 on August 17, 2004, 02:16:11
quote:
Originally posted by beavis

No. What is it?

A basic chart maps your Physical, Emotional and Intellectual levels over time. Each rhythm has a periodic cycle. As far as I understand they converge at birth - which is used as a starting reference. As they are periodic they peak and trough i.e. Highs and low and medians etc. Thought to be a pseudoscience, yet you never know... DO a google!


S [:)]
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: beavis on August 17, 2004, 02:32:19
So I'd type in a number or do a test for each of those variables and it tells me the pattern? Theres general statistics software for that. But I think I can do a good enough job of it without a computer.
Title: I lost most of my energy
Post by: beavis on July 08, 2004, 19:32:27
[:(] [:(] [:(] [:(] [:(] [:(] [:(] [:(] [:(] [:(] [:(]

Slowly over the last year I've lost most of my energy. I dont know what to do to get it back. Everything I did to get it the first time has yielded only minor improvements. And sometimes I lose it all again. I used to be good at energy. I could do telekinesis within 10 seconds of trying every time. Telepathy was almost easy. I could sometimes do OBE. I've done all that over the last year, but less often as time gets closer to now. Now I can hardly do anything. Why is it so much harder to relearn? What should I do?