I need to astral travel... Please help

[Soulshaman]

Hello folks

this is my first post, so please bare with me.
You might see this post on other astral forums.. This is just to get a broad perspective on ideas and other comments from other places on the internet.

Im trying to learn to astral travel, I've tried everything, to the book Astral dynamics, to albert taylors soul travel, getting on ceremonial magic forums.. Laying down, waking up in the middle of the night.. (WHICH DOESNT WORK)!! to chanting a mantra, you name it, i've done it.

And Also, I cannot lay down or sit in a chair and IMAGINE that im traveling somewhere else.. (for instance i tried that with a friend of mine, and I assumed in my own mind she was washing dishes at that exact time of hour in which i was SUPPOSEDLY traveling, but i assumed she was washing dishes.. she said nope, i was at the store). I need verifyable evidence that im traveling to the spirit realms and in the physical realms.

and there needs to be proof.

I heard of shamanism helping with astral travel to journey to the spirit realms for spirits to reach out to you.. Im willing to try that. thats the only thing I havent done..

but i came here to ask advice on how to successfully astral travel.
what resources, websites, books, videos, anything on this subject would help me project..

I'd like to know how, and how to prepare myself to safely do it.. and meet spirits so that i can benefit others

Please help

Thank you

[Xanth]

First question...

What exactly do you think Astral Projection is?  What are your preconceived ideas and concepts on the subject?

Second question...

Can you take those preconceived ideas and concepts... and completely forget you ever read/heard of them?

You...
You need to start from a blank slate. 
You need to empty your cup before you begin to fill it again.

[Lionheart]

 Hello and Welcome to the Astral Pulse. It sounds to me like you need to just sit down/lie down and do some good ole fashion meditation, then see where that leads. Just start by closing your eyes and relax, release, let go. Let what happens happen and just passively observe it with an air of curiosity.
All those books you have read, all the videos you have watched are there to give you ways to hone "your own" technique. "They lead you to the water per say, but you are the one that has to drink it"! 
Good Luck and Safe Travels! 

[Steel Hawk]

The above advice is very good, and in my opinion this forum is your best resource for help and information.

LOL... you have no idea what you're in for my friend. You remind me of myself when I first started this path, thinking that astral travel or OBEs would be something akin to a guided visualization excercise. Truth is that it can feel as real as this, the here now feels, almost as if you were physically transported to another reality. Wrap your mind around that.

Books I Recommend Reading:
Journeys Out of the Body by Robert A. Monroe
Far Journeys by Robert A. Monroe
Ultimate Journey by Robert A. Monroe
The Art and Practice of Astral Projection by Ophiel
Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce

With time and practice most people are able to get vibrations fairly quickly, once you experience these you will have no doubt that what others who have walked before you were telling the truth. Other truths and proof will be revealed as time goes on, but this should satisfy your immediate need to know you're not just wasting your time.

[Astralsuzy]

I agree with Lionheart and Xanth.  You do not need more books to read.  Go into the astral projection topics and it will give you a lot of information.

[desert-rat]

In addition to the books by Robert Monroe ,  there are some by DickSutphen , Willam Buhlman , Robert Bruce , and a bunch more , new age stores and libaries will have them . There is a free down load pdf file from this forum and hear http://obe4u.com/   desert rat 

[personalreality]

I think you're too obsessed with achieving projection and with "proof" of what you believe projection to be.

You suffer from that all to common syndrome that we call "trying to hard".

My best advice is to find the simplest practice that you've had the most success with and keep doing it over and over.  Everyday if you can.  In addition to that, keep a regular journal of each experience.  I don't like giving explanations necessarily, it's better if you figure it out on your own.  However, because you seem to be very focused on "proof", I'll tell you why I recommend this practice.

At the end of the day, like everything in life, there is no "one way" that works for everybody or anybody.  Every person has to discover their own path, no matter what it is they are trying to accomplish.  My favorite example is the buddha or Jesus.  Mystics like these people didn't intend for their path to be copied to the letter.  Rather, their example is simply to show you that it is possible.  You aren't supposed to walk their path, but the fact that they walked their path lets you know that it has been done and you can do it as well.  Some of their experiences might be similar to your own experiences, but your's are always going to be unique to you.  It's just the nature of the human being.  Why would you have a unique perception if all you were gonna do was copy someone else?

So, with that in mind, keeping a journal and a regular practice allows you to navigate your path as you trudge through the wilderness of self-discovery.  Take my advice with a grain of salt if it doesn't align with your vibe, but I can promise you that no one here or anywhere has had the same experience as anyone else.  Sure, there may be some commonalities, but nothing is identical and in the end all the successful projectors had to make their own way.  They learned some things from others, but the actual projection itself happened through their own doing, not through the actions of the teachers.

Give it a try if you're patient and feel like committing to a specific practice for a while.  But don't be scared to tweak that practice, switch things up as you deem it necessary.  Make your own projection ritual.