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Title: If you care for your labor rights...
Post by: Anonymous on May 06, 2003, 11:00:42
P.S. In case you're wondering I wasn't serious about Osama being more American.
Title: If you care for your labor rights...
Post by: BDHugh on May 06, 2003, 12:05:02
Yes, to me it is very infuriating. However, I seriously doubt that this will ever pass. Unions around the country would be in uproar.

Title: If you care for your labor rights...
Post by: Nick on May 06, 2003, 13:07:29
In not too many months we're going to start hearing about the 2004 elections. This topic will be an issue for the other party to grab ahold of. There really isn't much likelihood of this becoming law before then, in my opinion, and a lot can change w/ the next election. Hopefully, for the better.

Very best,
Title: If you care for your labor rights...
Post by: Tom on May 06, 2003, 13:29:37
To begin with, I am not sure what "labor rights" consist of.

Unions might have been a good idea, but to the extent that I have personally come in contact with them I wish they did not exist.

One of my friends wants to use a hair removal product called "nads" to take off Osama's beard.
Title: If you care for your labor rights...
Post by: Anonymous on May 06, 2003, 14:18:17
I hope the democrats take advantage of this. Or someone. Anyone but the republicans! I would like to see what some third-party candidates could do for us. I'm kinda sick of both republicans and democrats (moreso republicans than democrats).
Title: If you care for your labor rights...
Post by: MJ-12 on May 06, 2003, 19:54:29
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Title: If you care for your labor rights...
Post by: Anonymous on May 06, 2003, 20:32:49
Yeah. Like I said, we've taken enough crap from them. We've bent over and assumed the position, and they're having their way with us, because nobody is standing up to them. Nobody would need to stand up to them if the system actually worked.
Title: If you care for your labor rights...
Post by: strwrs_guru on May 06, 2003, 20:37:57
REPUBLICANS, DUMMYCRATS, WHATEVER..........THEY ARE ALL TRYING TO GET US TO THAT ONE WORLD ORDER ANYWAY. I GIVE UP.......OR MAYBE THAT IS JUST WHAT THEY WANT US TO DO?
Title: If you care for your labor rights...
Post by: Anonymous on May 06, 2003, 22:42:46
Yeah, I've been contemplating that problem for quite sometime now. I have yet to find a solution. I think anarchy would be good for all of us. We should be responsible for ourselves and be kind to each other and help each other however we can. I know that's probably not realistic, but it all has to start with a vision.
Title: If you care for your labor rights...
Post by: Tom on May 06, 2003, 23:00:45
Ayn Rand wrote "Atlas Shrugged" and in it described how rational people could live together and work together. It is a very good book. It is one of the most inspiring things I have ever read.
Title: If you care for your labor rights...
Post by: BDHugh on May 07, 2003, 14:42:18
quote:
Originally posted by EnderWiggin

Yeah, I've been contemplating that problem for quite sometime now. I have yet to find a solution. I think anarchy would be good for all of us. We should be responsible for ourselves and be kind to each other and help each other however we can. I know that's probably not realistic, but it all has to start with a vision.



I don't think anarchy is the best solution. I believe we should return to individualism. We depend way too much on goverment and big corporations to take care of our needs. What we need is major reform and restructuring of American society as well as isolation in the affairs of international politics. I think it was George Washington who said to stay out of the affairs of other nations and make no alliances temporary or permanent. Thomas Jefferson also said a few similar lines. I don't think it will be long though because when nanotechnology comes to maturity things will look quite different.
Title: If you care for your labor rights...
Post by: Anonymous on May 07, 2003, 18:43:57
I think you're right in some aspects, BD Hugh, but I'm fairly certain anarchy simply means 'no government.' To me, not having a government is not necessarily chaos. Society and government are two seperate things, but they are very closely related. I think we do need a restructuring of some sort though. And maybe we should stay out of international affairs, though it's hard to say because we've already dug ourselves in so deep (thanks to Bush) that we have to watch our backs with certain countries. I think instead of having a war, the leaders of the countries in conflict should duke it out in a boxing match or something. That way, only the ones in power are getting hurt. It's so easy for Bush to call for a war, but I don't see him offering to fight alongside his troops like some of the honorable kings of medieval times, or other rulers during the days of swords.

What America needs is for its people to be free. That was the original intent of the formation of this country, it is what we are taught in the public school systems of America, and I think it's about time people teach history correctly or live up to the history that is being taught so that it will be correct.
Title: If you care for your labor rights...
Post by: Anonymous on May 06, 2003, 09:05:27
...Then I suggest doing something about Bush's plans:

http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/7662

I'm outraged, how about you? I think we've let Bush get away with enough crap already. This is taking things way to far. This is an insult to anyone who's ever had to work to their limit for their goals, and it's an insult for anyone who ever works for their dreams. Bush is the most unamerican being I have ever heard of. Even Osama is more American.