Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Logic on October 21, 2003, 17:56:37
Post by: Logic on October 21, 2003, 17:56:37
Clow, there is no proof what so ever towards demons attacking in 2012, so you cant say people "know" because obviously if you knew anything, all there is to know is that you will never know anything. Many people believe that the end of the world will come with the ending of 2012 december 21st, the final date in the mayan calendar. But, what the mayans calculated was that the earth would return to a point in space where it started off about 5000+ years ago, the beggining of a new cycle. The alignment of the earth at that point is supposed to enhance its magnetic (and vibrational?) frequencies due to celestial objects in relation to earth (celestial bodies, stars, planets, galaxies, etc..)to a point which it has not seen for 5 millenia. I'm pretty sure the demon attack is a rumor..
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: rodentmouse on October 21, 2003, 18:23:40
Post by: rodentmouse on October 21, 2003, 18:23:40
i read that it was a time for spiritual ascension and descension, something like those who have abandoned there egos by 50% percent ascend, those who havent are sent to the low astral hellish type regions.
i like what you say Logic, out of all the rumours about this 2012 thing that one seems the most scientific and well.... logical.
Maybe Clow, its because earth is heading for this region in space and the magnetic waves are getting closer that your friend is sensing these things.
All speculation though, i must admit i am looking forward to what will actually happen in 2012.
i like what you say Logic, out of all the rumours about this 2012 thing that one seems the most scientific and well.... logical.
Maybe Clow, its because earth is heading for this region in space and the magnetic waves are getting closer that your friend is sensing these things.
All speculation though, i must admit i am looking forward to what will actually happen in 2012.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Van-Stolin on October 21, 2003, 18:58:58
Post by: Van-Stolin on October 21, 2003, 18:58:58
Clow, you can never really know unless you were told that it was going to happen by something in the astral.
Demons or not we are in for a treat and the weird things that are happening are only the icing on the cake and will soon be increasing. I have also sensed some things. A change in the weather and lots of other things like a behavior change in animals and people acting differently. The last few nights my dogs have been barking out the window at nothing. I would go out to check and there would be nothing there, but I could sense something almost like it was mocking me.
Demons or not we are in for a treat and the weird things that are happening are only the icing on the cake and will soon be increasing. I have also sensed some things. A change in the weather and lots of other things like a behavior change in animals and people acting differently. The last few nights my dogs have been barking out the window at nothing. I would go out to check and there would be nothing there, but I could sense something almost like it was mocking me.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Nagual on October 22, 2003, 03:35:22
Post by: Nagual on October 22, 2003, 03:35:22
No offense but, what if nothing happens...?
It's not the first time the "end of the world" was forecasted...
It's not the first time the "end of the world" was forecasted...
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: xardas on October 22, 2003, 04:33:52
Post by: xardas on October 22, 2003, 04:33:52
I belief the war against demons has already started, but only the people connected to a higher astral (i belief them) noticed it. The war started this year and is going to end at 2019 I think. Their predictions are:
2004, 2011, 2019: terrible things are going to happen.
2004, 2011, 2019: terrible things are going to happen.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: xardas on October 22, 2003, 04:53:01
Post by: xardas on October 22, 2003, 04:53:01
Legions of demons will come from the beneath...
Rains of fire will fall from the sky...
Hordes of undead will come from the graves...
A vast demonic army will come and get you all...
Men i like this song [;)]
Rains of fire will fall from the sky...
Hordes of undead will come from the graves...
A vast demonic army will come and get you all...
Men i like this song [;)]
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: T_Kman0610 on October 22, 2003, 05:19:12
Post by: T_Kman0610 on October 22, 2003, 05:19:12
quote:i've always dreamed about zombies attacking, i think zombies are cool lol its gonna be a real night of the living dead lol
Originally posted by xardas
Legions of demons will come from the beneath...
Rains of fire will fall from the sky...
Hordes of undead will come from the graves...
A vast demonic army will come and get you all...
Men i like this song [;)]
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: clandestino on October 22, 2003, 05:21:43
Post by: clandestino on October 22, 2003, 05:21:43
quote:
Clow, you can never really know unless you were told that it was going to happen by something in the astral.
Even then, you cannot know for sure. Its just as easy to get false info in the astral, as it is in our physical realm.
I think people are mistaken when they think of the astral as being a realm where we suddenly have all knowledge at our finger-tips. When I think about the astral planes, I consider them as other realities within our existence.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Van-Stolin on October 22, 2003, 13:04:21
Post by: Van-Stolin on October 22, 2003, 13:04:21
There is a library there, it lets you access information on the past and future, but some of it is in symbols so you would have to be good at interpreting it.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Clow on October 22, 2003, 15:00:30
Post by: Clow on October 22, 2003, 15:00:30
Once again I say that I only want experiences and info on 2012 coming early. A long time ago I made a post on weather 2012 was real or not this is not it. I am trying to compile info on if it is coming early or not therefore I could careless if you don't believe or not I just want the people who do to post. Thank you for those who did post stuff that actually had to do with 2012 coming early.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Jenadots on October 22, 2003, 15:25:14
Post by: Jenadots on October 22, 2003, 15:25:14
Clow, depends on what you mean by "early". These things usually go in phases and it is likely that we would begin to see signs of whatever shifts are going to take place long before it happens. A transition is likely to occur before and after that date rather than one "big bang" of an event.
It seems to me that the planet and all living things on it are becoming more astral -- the space between the two realms is lessening so that we might see more crossover types of beings, colors, and sounds along with sudden bursts of various energies.
In other words, the transition has already begun. I believe those who expect to meet demons as a result, will. Those who expect something else will experience it as something else. It may be a time of great turmoil out of which will come great growth for our species.
Or it could be something beyond the imagining of any one of us.
The end of the world? Not likely, planet earth has been here a few billion years. Demons? There are already demons among us, and they are quite human. The end of life as we know it? Might not be a bad thing given the circumstances that 3 or 4 billion people live in. I would hope life for us changes and improves for mankind, for the animals, and for the planet.
In any case, whatever is going to happen has already begun and is beyond our control. All we can do is react to it and, hopefully, grow from it.
It seems to me that the planet and all living things on it are becoming more astral -- the space between the two realms is lessening so that we might see more crossover types of beings, colors, and sounds along with sudden bursts of various energies.
In other words, the transition has already begun. I believe those who expect to meet demons as a result, will. Those who expect something else will experience it as something else. It may be a time of great turmoil out of which will come great growth for our species.
Or it could be something beyond the imagining of any one of us.
The end of the world? Not likely, planet earth has been here a few billion years. Demons? There are already demons among us, and they are quite human. The end of life as we know it? Might not be a bad thing given the circumstances that 3 or 4 billion people live in. I would hope life for us changes and improves for mankind, for the animals, and for the planet.
In any case, whatever is going to happen has already begun and is beyond our control. All we can do is react to it and, hopefully, grow from it.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: beavis on October 22, 2003, 19:43:47
Post by: beavis on October 22, 2003, 19:43:47
I've been seeing some weird things lately. Sometimes I feel like people are reading my thoughts. A day or 2 ago I saw multiple timelines at the same time (again) in a multidimensional format. I've been seeing things that make a year seem so short its almost instantaneous. I've had dreams of wars fought using only psychic abilities and was told (in the dream) in a very direct way that they will be over soon.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Clow on October 23, 2003, 19:19:23
Post by: Clow on October 23, 2003, 19:19:23
Something really freaky has been happening. Every morning when I go out for my bus. I feel a presence Almost like I'm being whatched... I never ever get that feeling. Most of all I can't sense any life energy coming of anything.
I've heard of how the demensions are "Colliding". It's supposed to have all kinds of side affects.
I've heard of how the demensions are "Colliding". It's supposed to have all kinds of side affects.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: wantsumrice on October 24, 2003, 08:01:44
Post by: wantsumrice on October 24, 2003, 08:01:44
all this is pretty cool huh?
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: shenron_2012 on October 24, 2003, 08:49:47
Post by: shenron_2012 on October 24, 2003, 08:49:47
hey clow ... all i can say on this is that when i talkied about alien ancestors noone believed me and that demons are real and not from hell...they didnt believe me then either.. and i am a demon and from what i can see nothing is coming at all only that this world is going to grow stronger and have stronger gravity pulling you down...which might have something to do with our abilitys and 'sencing ' someone is watching you but there isnt.. so i say if you believe this 'demon war' is coming on dec 21st or dec 25th 2012 then fine check out my link on my singature if not then live life as you did already...
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Van-Stolin on October 24, 2003, 10:22:02
Post by: Van-Stolin on October 24, 2003, 10:22:02
I saw those pics of 'you' Shenron. They don't look very real and I doubt that you really even remotely look anything like that, even if you were a demon. They would look more convincing in a better light source and if you had something in the backround that didn't look like a movie set out of a bad horror film.
Anyway, I have been getting weird vibes more and more. My stomach is feeling quesy even right now as I type this up. A few nights ago I was attacked by a shadow and my dogs are still barking at nothing. Also things have been moving in my house without notice. These strange things seem to follow me too, as at work I set something down and when I turned back around it was gone. I asked around and everyone said that they hadn't picked anything up at all and there was nothing there.
Anyway, I have been getting weird vibes more and more. My stomach is feeling quesy even right now as I type this up. A few nights ago I was attacked by a shadow and my dogs are still barking at nothing. Also things have been moving in my house without notice. These strange things seem to follow me too, as at work I set something down and when I turned back around it was gone. I asked around and everyone said that they hadn't picked anything up at all and there was nothing there.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: shenron_2012 on October 24, 2003, 11:21:43
Post by: shenron_2012 on October 24, 2003, 11:21:43
i really appreciate your criticism and those pics are real. second if you do feel those strange 'vibes' then i dont no what is causing this. third the 'shadow' who attacked you might have been a demon might have been something else i dont no u do but if it was a demon then there almost ready to enter our world{earth} and it might have been a lower class demon. so im sorry if it was. but if it wasn't then take my advice it ant over then.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: MJ-12 on October 24, 2003, 11:58:31
Post by: MJ-12 on October 24, 2003, 11:58:31
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Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: shenron_2012 on October 24, 2003, 12:12:49
Post by: shenron_2012 on October 24, 2003, 12:12:49
shen energy is heven energy and hell energy mixed to togerther.
and 1 million and 1 years ago my father was the most powerfullest{pls forgive spelling} and before him i have no clue.
and 1 million and 1 years ago my father was the most powerfullest{pls forgive spelling} and before him i have no clue.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Van-Stolin on October 24, 2003, 17:10:41
Post by: Van-Stolin on October 24, 2003, 17:10:41
I don't think that Shadow was a demon. I was scared, but only because I couldn't move. It gave off no signs of threat and seemed very scared itself when I moved, I guess it didn't expect that. In all reason it was probably just an astral entity, but you could call it a demon if you like. 5 years with Shen energy, cool. Oh one thing I wanted to ask. You say you have friends, do they know about you? Also maybe you could find some better lighted pics and have one of your freinds in the picture with you, it would be cool to have real proof.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: chupacabra on October 24, 2003, 20:36:56
Post by: chupacabra on October 24, 2003, 20:36:56
Shenron, you aint gots no d*mn powuh!!!
Everybody up off in here be knowin' I am the mos' powerfullest!!!!
Everybody up off in here be knowin' I am the mos' powerfullest!!!!
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: MJ-12 on October 24, 2003, 21:04:55
Post by: MJ-12 on October 24, 2003, 21:04:55
w00t!
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: chupacabra on October 25, 2003, 09:09:59
Post by: chupacabra on October 25, 2003, 09:09:59
I'm callin' you out MJ-12
I challenge you to a demon fight right now.
I challenge you to a demon fight right now.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Gandalf on October 25, 2003, 11:34:49
Post by: Gandalf on October 25, 2003, 11:34:49
Guys..........what a load of old horseshit! (IMO)
If I had a Euro for everytime it 'the end of the world' i would be a billionaire by now...
You can believe what you like, but i have lived through so many 'end times' that it really is getting tedious now.. The worst ones so far have been the 'millenium' nutters, around the same time we had the nostradamus 1999 retards... What you always find is that as soon as the latest one *doesnt* come true then excuses are found and the attention is forced onto the *next* end time story..
I've acutally noticed a cultural difference here. It seems that the obsession with 'end time scenarios' is a purely American thing. It isnt a fixation in Europe as such. I think it is because christian apolcalyptic mythology is so ingrained into your culture. Is it not the fact that the majority of the population think that the biblical revelations are 'fact' that they 'will happen'?
btw this is purly an observation Im not trying to be anti-american at all, Im just noting a cultural difference thats all!
The result of this is that you start looking at other cultural myths with 'christian apocalypse glasses', eg the Mayan prophesies.
If you actually study the Mayan prophsies the 'end time' is nothing like the crap in revelations, it is in fact more subtle, a raising of universal consciousness.
The idea I heard earlier perfectly describes this mixup of christian notions with mayan philosophy, so that in the event, those who are more spiritually enlightnened go to a higher level while those who are of low vibration go to a some kind of hellish region... bollocks!
btw you guys might also want to check out the whole origin of the 2012 thing as there is a considerable amount of controvesy going on about whether the whole 2012 thing is complete crap and a result of complete mis-translation of mayan text..
I'm not stating it is, I'm just saying that it IS controversial and those who just accept the mayan thing about 2012 as fact might want to check out the evidence rather than saying 'we're all going to die', which to be honest is wearing a bit thin now...
Perhaps its time to get some new material sherrif...
Douglas
(someone who's bored having lived through more 'end of the worlds' than Einstein has braincells)
If I had a Euro for everytime it 'the end of the world' i would be a billionaire by now...
You can believe what you like, but i have lived through so many 'end times' that it really is getting tedious now.. The worst ones so far have been the 'millenium' nutters, around the same time we had the nostradamus 1999 retards... What you always find is that as soon as the latest one *doesnt* come true then excuses are found and the attention is forced onto the *next* end time story..
I've acutally noticed a cultural difference here. It seems that the obsession with 'end time scenarios' is a purely American thing. It isnt a fixation in Europe as such. I think it is because christian apolcalyptic mythology is so ingrained into your culture. Is it not the fact that the majority of the population think that the biblical revelations are 'fact' that they 'will happen'?
btw this is purly an observation Im not trying to be anti-american at all, Im just noting a cultural difference thats all!
The result of this is that you start looking at other cultural myths with 'christian apocalypse glasses', eg the Mayan prophesies.
If you actually study the Mayan prophsies the 'end time' is nothing like the crap in revelations, it is in fact more subtle, a raising of universal consciousness.
The idea I heard earlier perfectly describes this mixup of christian notions with mayan philosophy, so that in the event, those who are more spiritually enlightnened go to a higher level while those who are of low vibration go to a some kind of hellish region... bollocks!
btw you guys might also want to check out the whole origin of the 2012 thing as there is a considerable amount of controvesy going on about whether the whole 2012 thing is complete crap and a result of complete mis-translation of mayan text..
I'm not stating it is, I'm just saying that it IS controversial and those who just accept the mayan thing about 2012 as fact might want to check out the evidence rather than saying 'we're all going to die', which to be honest is wearing a bit thin now...
Perhaps its time to get some new material sherrif...
Douglas
(someone who's bored having lived through more 'end of the worlds' than Einstein has braincells)
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Aphotica on October 25, 2003, 14:08:15
Post by: Aphotica on October 25, 2003, 14:08:15
Demons. Ther'ye coming. I don't know when or how but they are, garunteed. As for the ghost problems, I have an actual club in my area dedicated to that [^]. It's like these demons, creature of hell, know what we know. We know something they don't like. Maybe its a false gut feeling, but hey, you never know. Get ready, be prepared. I am not saying that the end is 2012 but it will be coming. Get prepared. Its closer that you think.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Tisha on October 25, 2003, 16:34:36
Post by: Tisha on October 25, 2003, 16:34:36
Jeez, everyone wants to be around for the g*dda*n apocalypse. [xx(]
2012 is just a number. Someone in Europe started counting, from the day of Jesus's purported death. A year lasts a certain amount of time. Guess how long: One year! So 2012 cannot, will not, come early. But changes are a'coming, and a lot of people are feeling the effects of the Change. But sorry, it's not demons, it probably won't happen in 2012, and the world is NOT coming to an end. We're just phasing out of one kind of consciousness and into a new one. And this new consciousness will be good.
Sorry to break it to you guys, but there is no end. Maybe the end of YOUR world, or mine, but the funny thing about Eternity is that . . . it never ends! Fancy that! It changes, perhaps in ways that are hostile to your life form . . . but, SO? Your soul is eternal, and where you go after your physical death is largely up to you.
So, given this thought, what are you doing with your SOULS today? Getting closer to the Divine, or wringing your hands over chicken-little fantasies? C'mon, there is REAL work to be done! Stop speculating and work on your soul, and work on your experience of being human.
Wouldn't it be horrible if, on your deathbed, you looked back upon your life and realized that all you ever did was wring your hands and wait for the End? What a wasted life!
2012 is just a number. Someone in Europe started counting, from the day of Jesus's purported death. A year lasts a certain amount of time. Guess how long: One year! So 2012 cannot, will not, come early. But changes are a'coming, and a lot of people are feeling the effects of the Change. But sorry, it's not demons, it probably won't happen in 2012, and the world is NOT coming to an end. We're just phasing out of one kind of consciousness and into a new one. And this new consciousness will be good.
Sorry to break it to you guys, but there is no end. Maybe the end of YOUR world, or mine, but the funny thing about Eternity is that . . . it never ends! Fancy that! It changes, perhaps in ways that are hostile to your life form . . . but, SO? Your soul is eternal, and where you go after your physical death is largely up to you.
So, given this thought, what are you doing with your SOULS today? Getting closer to the Divine, or wringing your hands over chicken-little fantasies? C'mon, there is REAL work to be done! Stop speculating and work on your soul, and work on your experience of being human.
Wouldn't it be horrible if, on your deathbed, you looked back upon your life and realized that all you ever did was wring your hands and wait for the End? What a wasted life!
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Van-Stolin on October 25, 2003, 23:33:39
Post by: Van-Stolin on October 25, 2003, 23:33:39
Thats what I have been saying. Although when I usually get vibes they mean something bad is going to happen. I hope it won't come to a war, but it will be cool to see what happens regardlus of it being good or bad.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Dark Knight on October 26, 2003, 10:49:42
Post by: Dark Knight on October 26, 2003, 10:49:42
Yes, Gandalf, I agree. I think the apocalypse is a load of American Puritanism...and it's all the fault of the English. If the English hadn't made the lives of the Puritans so miserable, they wouldn't have ended up in Plymouth Rock and we Americans wouldn't be wrestling with this crap today [:D]
We are heading for changes, and the only end coming as far as I am concerned is the end of old ways that don't work. It's called growing up. I would believe that is what 2012 would be. And taking a cue from my science background I would assume the changes come like a titration curve. Starts out slow, picks up, then skyrockets and levels off, starts over for the next run. We're probably at a point where were seeing things pick up.
Shenron...was the name of the Earth's Eternal Dragon in DBZ. You said you weren't into anime, even though the first time I saw you post, you had an avatar of Goku's father. The mispellings are timed a little too well, and damn insulting, still! I don't believe for a minute you're from Japan.
We are heading for changes, and the only end coming as far as I am concerned is the end of old ways that don't work. It's called growing up. I would believe that is what 2012 would be. And taking a cue from my science background I would assume the changes come like a titration curve. Starts out slow, picks up, then skyrockets and levels off, starts over for the next run. We're probably at a point where were seeing things pick up.
Shenron...was the name of the Earth's Eternal Dragon in DBZ. You said you weren't into anime, even though the first time I saw you post, you had an avatar of Goku's father. The mispellings are timed a little too well, and damn insulting, still! I don't believe for a minute you're from Japan.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Mustardseed on October 26, 2003, 11:27:07
Post by: Mustardseed on October 26, 2003, 11:27:07
huh ......???
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Van-Stolin on October 26, 2003, 13:32:34
Post by: Van-Stolin on October 26, 2003, 13:32:34
Dark means Shenron, the poster. Even though Shenron is on dbz, the myth of that dragon goes a long way back. In japan it is Shenlong instead so he would spell it like that if he was from there, which I don't think so either. Everyone that is from there loves anime since it has so much varitiy for the ages.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Clow on October 26, 2003, 16:44:55
Post by: Clow on October 26, 2003, 16:44:55
As soon as someone metions the demon war of 2012 the whole post becomes a debate. Once again I do NOT want that. This post is for people who do believe that a demon war is going to happen. Please talk about that here not the other stuff.
I'm not sure how to imagine this in my mind but I have heard that our demensions astral and physical will collide and make the astral physical that is what most people are feeling... Sensing. BTW When I posted the "Is 2012 coming Early" Tisha what 2012 was refering to was the demon war. Yes these changes may be good. Demensions colliding merging. I think that will bring new creatures. I beleive maybe the demensions Astral and Physical may have collided a long time ago then seperated again. That is where mythology of dragons came into play Demon/Human ect..
I'm not sure how to imagine this in my mind but I have heard that our demensions astral and physical will collide and make the astral physical that is what most people are feeling... Sensing. BTW When I posted the "Is 2012 coming Early" Tisha what 2012 was refering to was the demon war. Yes these changes may be good. Demensions colliding merging. I think that will bring new creatures. I beleive maybe the demensions Astral and Physical may have collided a long time ago then seperated again. That is where mythology of dragons came into play Demon/Human ect..
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Cel on October 26, 2003, 17:04:06
Post by: Cel on October 26, 2003, 17:04:06
it's possible to have the two dementions collide. Yet for that to happen the barrier to the physical would have to be broken which is diffcult to do with the ancient barriers protecting it. I'm not sure if the ancient protection barriers/glyphs do exist but it's some myth that has popped up.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Pai on October 26, 2003, 18:05:35
Post by: Pai on October 26, 2003, 18:05:35
Hi! I'm the one Clow was talking about when he started this thread. From what I understand, there is a ruler of almost all demons, Zi, who wants to take over the physical plane. He has an army ready, but needs to open the gates connecting the two planes. He needs pure dragon tears to do that. There are only two dragons left, that I've met so far. One of each species was spared after an ancient war. The species were Black, White, Grey, Gold, Green, Red, and Ancient. The Ancients were wiped out by the Gold dragons because they were too powerful. The Gold dragons wanted to be safe, so they joined with an army of demons. I'll tell you the rest tomorrow, I have to go.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Van-Stolin on October 26, 2003, 18:21:07
Post by: Van-Stolin on October 26, 2003, 18:21:07
There are only two dragons left although how you have meet them I have no idea, there might be more or maybe not. There are also dragons in the astral and not just ones that are thought forms, I mean dragons that have died and gone there. Although the species of dragons you mentioned are some what off. The only ones that I know of are black, blue, red, white, yellow or gold and the basic green. Black is where the king of dragons Bahumat decended from and is the most powerful. Never heard of ancient.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Clow on October 26, 2003, 18:32:50
Post by: Clow on October 26, 2003, 18:32:50
Hi Pai nice to see you finally got onto astral pulse. =). Maybe you can tell me more about Zi at school never heard of him.
Many things exist in the astral that is why I think that maybe the demensions did clash along time ago and stuff got left behind when they went seperate ways. That would be where our myths of dragons and monsters came into play. Also why there are people who are part demon.
Many things exist in the astral that is why I think that maybe the demensions did clash along time ago and stuff got left behind when they went seperate ways. That would be where our myths of dragons and monsters came into play. Also why there are people who are part demon.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: MJ-12 on October 26, 2003, 18:58:40
Post by: MJ-12 on October 26, 2003, 18:58:40
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Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Clow on October 26, 2003, 19:34:11
Post by: Clow on October 26, 2003, 19:34:11
Everything is originated from something so That is most likley where Final Fantasy 7 got that.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Van-Stolin on October 26, 2003, 20:31:53
Post by: Van-Stolin on October 26, 2003, 20:31:53
Bahamut has been a legend for as long as I can remember. The queen of dragons and his sister is called Tiamat and she doesn't care for humans to much, there is something about her coming back to wipe out those she feels arn't spiritual enough.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Clow on October 26, 2003, 21:00:33
Post by: Clow on October 26, 2003, 21:00:33
Well I think I know some people on that list lol. Anyway in the American culture many people think that if you are spiritual you are wierd So I try to keep it to myself. I still would'nt like to see a lot of people wiped out by a dragon. I don't like death.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Van-Stolin on October 26, 2003, 22:10:59
Post by: Van-Stolin on October 26, 2003, 22:10:59
Well all of us will end up in the up in the astral anyway so it really doesn't matter.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Clow on October 26, 2003, 22:51:43
Post by: Clow on October 26, 2003, 22:51:43
That may be true but do you want the astral taking our lives from us and living in our place. I don't. I was seriosly hoping that I was feeling stuff that wasn't really happening. Then again maybe I'm overestimating the demons. Either way I thought it might be good to prepare people for what is or might happen. I'm going to feel real stupid for getting so worked up about something that won't happen.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Anonymous on October 26, 2003, 23:17:28
Post by: Anonymous on October 26, 2003, 23:17:28
All it takes for an evil spirit to defeat you is for you to underestimate yourself. If you do not believe you can win the fight, you have already lost.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Anonymous on October 26, 2003, 23:20:09
Post by: Anonymous on October 26, 2003, 23:20:09
We may live to see the end of times. Somebody has to. If death wishes to claim me at that time, I am not afraid. But I'm not going down without a good fight.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: JustLikeThePill on October 27, 2003, 04:01:33
Post by: JustLikeThePill on October 27, 2003, 04:01:33
jeese. dont any of you guys believe in god? we wont to go the astral when we die, we'll go to heaven or hell. but hey, thats just my opinion.
as far as the demon war, thats the biggest pile of excrement i've ever heard. this really belongs in the tabloids, guys. we should sell this story and make 50 bucks or so. lmao! There is no Demon war and this guy isn't a demon. People sometimes lie to themselves to much that they start to believe the lie. What do i think about 2012? i think something will happen. I dont think any demons will unluck the "gates" with "dragon tears". i dont think there are any gates. Its not like "ok, heres the physical and heres the astral" it flows. We just dont notice the astral unless we do it purposefully or by accident "and sometimes when it happens accidentally people think they have encountered ghosts, demons, been possessed, ect ect".
by the way, you said there are only 2 dragons left, but you also said that 1 of each species was spared, there should be 7. And how could the ancients (less powerful) wipe out the golds (too powerful)? that doesn't make sense.
and i feel stupid for even using the terms "ancients" and "golds" and talking about dragons and demons.
And i think alot of the negs/astral wildlife are just subconious projections/images.
just my .75 cents.
as far as the demon war, thats the biggest pile of excrement i've ever heard. this really belongs in the tabloids, guys. we should sell this story and make 50 bucks or so. lmao! There is no Demon war and this guy isn't a demon. People sometimes lie to themselves to much that they start to believe the lie. What do i think about 2012? i think something will happen. I dont think any demons will unluck the "gates" with "dragon tears". i dont think there are any gates. Its not like "ok, heres the physical and heres the astral" it flows. We just dont notice the astral unless we do it purposefully or by accident "and sometimes when it happens accidentally people think they have encountered ghosts, demons, been possessed, ect ect".
by the way, you said there are only 2 dragons left, but you also said that 1 of each species was spared, there should be 7. And how could the ancients (less powerful) wipe out the golds (too powerful)? that doesn't make sense.
and i feel stupid for even using the terms "ancients" and "golds" and talking about dragons and demons.
And i think alot of the negs/astral wildlife are just subconious projections/images.
just my .75 cents.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Clow on October 27, 2003, 04:40:12
Post by: Clow on October 27, 2003, 04:40:12
=) You need to read a bit slower and get your facts straight. People visit the Astral Everyday. She did not say there were 2 dragons left she said she met 2. The Gold wiped out the Ancients NOT Vise Versa. You need to look some stuff up before you go making accusations. The Demon War of 2012 is way out in the open many people believe it will happen and just as much do not. Also there is a post on energy Forum where you can argue about people being part demon how about not here ok =0=).
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Dark Knight on October 27, 2003, 05:23:24
Post by: Dark Knight on October 27, 2003, 05:23:24
OK, Clow, this is in relation to the "demon war." But it may not involve all the ancient language uses as you may like.
It's often thought that ancient human races would have referred to visiting ET races as demons/angels because that was the verbage of the time period. We've all heard the ancient astronaut stuff....
The only reason I bring this up is because 1) there are such things as ET incarnates, Et souls taking human form, like me (sounds similiar to your "half demon" theory and 2) there is alledgedly an astral war taking place between "forces of light" and "forces of darkness" with regards to the spiritual development and direction of this planet...alledgedly.
I'm a grey ET abductee, I've seen greys and some jet black leathery skinned nasties that some on this forum refer to as "The Dark Ones."
Yes, I'll reiterate, I'm an ET soul in human form. If you're going to ask which race...never paid much attention. What I was wasn't as important as who I was and what I felt I had come here to do, which now seems to be stymied thanks to certain elements I won't mention.
How do I know (or think I know) all this...the hard way, very painfully I might add.
But it all depends on your choice of words. Demon, ET, whatever there may be a clash going on, but what you believe may depend on your choice of words.
It's often thought that ancient human races would have referred to visiting ET races as demons/angels because that was the verbage of the time period. We've all heard the ancient astronaut stuff....
The only reason I bring this up is because 1) there are such things as ET incarnates, Et souls taking human form, like me (sounds similiar to your "half demon" theory and 2) there is alledgedly an astral war taking place between "forces of light" and "forces of darkness" with regards to the spiritual development and direction of this planet...alledgedly.
I'm a grey ET abductee, I've seen greys and some jet black leathery skinned nasties that some on this forum refer to as "The Dark Ones."
Yes, I'll reiterate, I'm an ET soul in human form. If you're going to ask which race...never paid much attention. What I was wasn't as important as who I was and what I felt I had come here to do, which now seems to be stymied thanks to certain elements I won't mention.
How do I know (or think I know) all this...the hard way, very painfully I might add.
But it all depends on your choice of words. Demon, ET, whatever there may be a clash going on, but what you believe may depend on your choice of words.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Van-Stolin on October 27, 2003, 10:45:50
Post by: Van-Stolin on October 27, 2003, 10:45:50
quote:
Originally posted by JustLikeThePill
jeese. dont any of you guys believe in god? we wont to go the astral when we die, we'll go to heaven or hell. but hey, thats just my opinion.
as far as the demon war, thats the biggest pile of excrement i've ever heard. this really belongs in the tabloids, guys. we should sell this story and make 50 bucks or so. lmao! There is no Demon war and this guy isn't a demon. People sometimes lie to themselves to much that they start to believe the lie. What do i think about 2012? i think something will happen. I dont think any demons will unluck the "gates" with "dragon tears". i dont think there are any gates. Its not like "ok, heres the physical and heres the astral" it flows. We just dont notice the astral unless we do it purposefully or by accident "and sometimes when it happens accidentally people think they have encountered ghosts, demons, been possessed, ect ect".
by the way, you said there are only 2 dragons left, but you also said that 1 of each species was spared, there should be 7. And how could the ancients (less powerful) wipe out the golds (too powerful)? that doesn't make sense.
and i feel stupid for even using the terms "ancients" and "golds" and talking about dragons and demons.
And i think alot of the negs/astral wildlife are just subconious projections/images.
just my .75 cents.
Well you still go to heaven or hell depending, but first you have to cast of self disire and all that and that is what the astral is for after that you go onto higher planes until you get to hevean or hell go read about that in Astral Dynamics.
I said that there was only two dragons left, but I also said that I KNOW OF.
Some Creatures in astral would be only projections of your conciousnuss, but then only you would be able to see them and interact with them if they were only there for you. However there have been others that have seen by lots and the same ones too with the exact same phyical and mental descriptions. I know this because I talk to a dragon that lives in the astral and I didn't know anything about her personaltity until I started talking to her and then I relayed this back to the person that introduced me to her and confirmed it all.
Another thing, you feel stupid for conversing about this. Well then you have one heck of a closed mind, I don't feel that demons are going to come out of any gates either, but that doesn't stop me from learning other peoples views on it.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Clow on October 27, 2003, 13:29:53
Post by: Clow on October 27, 2003, 13:29:53
I believe in ETs to but demons are a completley different thing. What do you think you were sent here to do?
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: TheSeeker on October 27, 2003, 14:32:19
Post by: TheSeeker on October 27, 2003, 14:32:19
....so crucify the ego.. before it's far too late, and leave behind this place so.. negative and blind and cynical...
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Logic on October 27, 2003, 19:48:46
Post by: Logic on October 27, 2003, 19:48:46
And you will come to find that we are all one mind
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Hyperdimensional on October 27, 2003, 23:00:01
Post by: Hyperdimensional on October 27, 2003, 23:00:01
You could change the future, that's one reason we have parallel universes
Best regards
Best regards
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Neo Schiavo on October 28, 2003, 16:39:05
Post by: Neo Schiavo on October 28, 2003, 16:39:05
I'd like to briefly mention that this is in response to the first two pages of this topic. I neglected to read the rest, as I am sure it is all BS.
I wouldn't doubt December 21, 2012 being the day of atonement, but whatever the outcome, I can assure you it is not the end of the world.
To back this up, I have some proof that life will continue. There is this elderly lady (pushing her nineties) in my neighborhood called Elaine that has been a psychic her whole life. In fact, her parents were psychics as well, as were their parents before them. Elaine has made countless predictions through her connection with the astral, most of which pertain to the troubled teenagers in our neighborhood. I know many people whom have paid to get "readings" from her, and guess what? Every single one came true. Whether it be car accidents or former friendship reunions, every single prediction followed as told.
Those were just short-term predictions, however, she has also dealt with distant events as well. Three of my friends were heavily drunk one night and went to see her for a "reading" (I constantly quote the word reading as I greatly dislike it). Was it about money? Nope. Sex? Not a chance. Did they ask about their future jobs? Absolutely not. They went to see her to ask when they would die. You heard right, they wanted to know the exact year, month, day, hour, minute and second they were going to die. Of course the answers they received weren't as linear as requested, they still got the point across. I will only tell the most interesting story:
Greg Guilbeault is nineteen, and probably smokes more marijuanna in a single week than Snoop Dogg smokes in a year. He smokes ciggarettes as well. Greg is currently missing two of his kneecaps and has had previous back injuries. Greg dropped out of school in his junior year and is clearly not going to be successful later in life. Judging from what you've read so far, it is obvious he will not live a very long and healthy life, or will he? That night, when he and the other two went to see Elaine, he was told he would live to be 88 years old and that the cause of his death would result from the most disasterous car-crash in the history of automobiles. The accident will take place on Route 77 (I have no clue where this is BTW) in the year 2082. Any other details on this are not present so what I have posted is all we have to go on.
Now what does this have to do with the "end of the world?" Everything, because if Greg Guilbeault really lives another eighty years, than the human race as a whole will also. And seriously I doubt that Elaine is wrong, as she is never is.
PS: If anyone is interested in learning more about Elaine, just let me know. I'll send the questions to her daughter, as Elaine herself has very few years to live.
I wouldn't doubt December 21, 2012 being the day of atonement, but whatever the outcome, I can assure you it is not the end of the world.
To back this up, I have some proof that life will continue. There is this elderly lady (pushing her nineties) in my neighborhood called Elaine that has been a psychic her whole life. In fact, her parents were psychics as well, as were their parents before them. Elaine has made countless predictions through her connection with the astral, most of which pertain to the troubled teenagers in our neighborhood. I know many people whom have paid to get "readings" from her, and guess what? Every single one came true. Whether it be car accidents or former friendship reunions, every single prediction followed as told.
Those were just short-term predictions, however, she has also dealt with distant events as well. Three of my friends were heavily drunk one night and went to see her for a "reading" (I constantly quote the word reading as I greatly dislike it). Was it about money? Nope. Sex? Not a chance. Did they ask about their future jobs? Absolutely not. They went to see her to ask when they would die. You heard right, they wanted to know the exact year, month, day, hour, minute and second they were going to die. Of course the answers they received weren't as linear as requested, they still got the point across. I will only tell the most interesting story:
Greg Guilbeault is nineteen, and probably smokes more marijuanna in a single week than Snoop Dogg smokes in a year. He smokes ciggarettes as well. Greg is currently missing two of his kneecaps and has had previous back injuries. Greg dropped out of school in his junior year and is clearly not going to be successful later in life. Judging from what you've read so far, it is obvious he will not live a very long and healthy life, or will he? That night, when he and the other two went to see Elaine, he was told he would live to be 88 years old and that the cause of his death would result from the most disasterous car-crash in the history of automobiles. The accident will take place on Route 77 (I have no clue where this is BTW) in the year 2082. Any other details on this are not present so what I have posted is all we have to go on.
Now what does this have to do with the "end of the world?" Everything, because if Greg Guilbeault really lives another eighty years, than the human race as a whole will also. And seriously I doubt that Elaine is wrong, as she is never is.
PS: If anyone is interested in learning more about Elaine, just let me know. I'll send the questions to her daughter, as Elaine herself has very few years to live.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Clow on October 28, 2003, 16:48:57
Post by: Clow on October 28, 2003, 16:48:57
Might want to do your math on that one. So he was five years old when he was read. Keep in mind I do not think that there will ever be a end of the world I just think there will be a war against most of the Astral sometime soon. No end.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Clow on October 28, 2003, 18:01:18
Post by: Clow on October 28, 2003, 18:01:18
heheh I don't even need this question answered anymore But I'll leave it up for you guys to debate over. I have infact while completley awake saw a Astral try to become physical so I know now that this will happen Early Thank you for posting on this Idea.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2003, 21:22:52
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2003, 21:22:52
Stewie: Oh I feel so delightfully white trash! Mommy, I want a mullet!
LOL sorry, couldn't resist. :)
LOL sorry, couldn't resist. :)
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: nadinecdp on November 25, 2003, 19:41:23
Post by: nadinecdp on November 25, 2003, 19:41:23
ok, i know something is going on in this world, cause everything that is happening is mostly bad. i personally think that when we die, everyone goes to heaven, because life on earth is hell. the only way you get to come back is for a do-over, you didnt get it right the first time. i do beleive the change started this year, and i hope it is over soon.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: goku22 on December 01, 2003, 09:43:41
Post by: goku22 on December 01, 2003, 09:43:41
I haven't read the entire thread, but the 2012 thing made me think of fictional sci-fi novel and gaming series called Shadowrun. In this world magic comes back to the world at 2012 and dragons, elves, dwarves, orcs, and wizards all become part of our earthly existence. I like the premise of magic coming back, but alot of stuff in the series would suck butt (mega-corporations controlling your every move, lots of evil magic thingies, etc...). Though I guess we do sort of have some of that already. Ben
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Anonymous on December 01, 2003, 10:36:46
Post by: Anonymous on December 01, 2003, 10:36:46
In the end, everything will be okay.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Neo Schiavo on December 01, 2003, 12:24:20
Post by: Neo Schiavo on December 01, 2003, 12:24:20
I just had a thought. I am sure all of you are familar with the Illuminati and their efforts towards the 'New World Order.' I am sure you all know the plans for the NWO, to rule the planet with one kingdom, under one religion, by rule of a supreme king. A counterfit of the Kingdom of God, if you belief in that. What you probably don't know (and I am really just guessing at this myself) is that members of this organization all contain the "alien gene." I believe that on the day of atonement (signs point to 12/21/2012) the Illuminati and its followers will rise up against the humans and bring about the New World Order. And unless we are prepared for that day, the human race will not survive.
Well, what do you think?
Well, what do you think?
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: TheWanderer on December 02, 2003, 00:14:52
Post by: TheWanderer on December 02, 2003, 00:14:52
JustAPill, I'm a Christian, and from what I've pulled out of Revelations, a lot of what has been predicted has come to pass. Very few things are left. I remember one thing was the reformation of the New Israel, which happened in the middle of the 20th century. There are a few other things as well that I have long forgotten, as I researched this stuff years ago.
There's an interesting quote in the bible that pertains to Elijah, I believe. There was an army coming to attack him, and he panicked to God. God told him not to fear for his army is with him. He gave him the ability to TRULY see (polyvision), and what he saw were tons of angels and chariots and all kinds of warriors all over the landscape. Then, Elijah gained strength and realized that the human army wouldn't do any damage (and they didn't).
Souls don't go to the Astral when they're dead, and the Astral doesn't have all the answers. There are higher realms above the astral, such as the Mental and Causal Planes. Someone said that if somebody tells you in the Astral that such and such a thing is going to happen, it will happen. That isn't true at all as there are all kinds of deceitful beings in the Astral, just like there are in the physical.
Saying souls either go to 'heaven or hell' is too vague, as we don't understand what heaven or hell is at all, other than that you'd much rather be in one than the other. I'm sure they're both very complex.
And, good stories guys, we should compile all of your posts into a short story book and sell it as a fiction novel. Good thing you guys have creative minds and don't actually believe any of this stuff ... oh wait, you DO believe in this stuff! You damned fools. Dragons tears and ancient barries, ya, OK BUDDY! The only thing that I'll give you is that I feel something will happen in 2012 as well, considering the translations are accurate. If not, oh well. If there's demons, THEN BRING THEM ON. I'll go down fighting. You should all focus on the here and now, and improving yourself for what lies ahead in our futures, whatever that may be.
And Shenron, you wannabe demon, meet up with me sometime and we'll fight, and after you're lying unconscious on the ground you'll realize that your DBZ fantasies are just a myth. Idiot.
There's an interesting quote in the bible that pertains to Elijah, I believe. There was an army coming to attack him, and he panicked to God. God told him not to fear for his army is with him. He gave him the ability to TRULY see (polyvision), and what he saw were tons of angels and chariots and all kinds of warriors all over the landscape. Then, Elijah gained strength and realized that the human army wouldn't do any damage (and they didn't).
Souls don't go to the Astral when they're dead, and the Astral doesn't have all the answers. There are higher realms above the astral, such as the Mental and Causal Planes. Someone said that if somebody tells you in the Astral that such and such a thing is going to happen, it will happen. That isn't true at all as there are all kinds of deceitful beings in the Astral, just like there are in the physical.
Saying souls either go to 'heaven or hell' is too vague, as we don't understand what heaven or hell is at all, other than that you'd much rather be in one than the other. I'm sure they're both very complex.
And, good stories guys, we should compile all of your posts into a short story book and sell it as a fiction novel. Good thing you guys have creative minds and don't actually believe any of this stuff ... oh wait, you DO believe in this stuff! You damned fools. Dragons tears and ancient barries, ya, OK BUDDY! The only thing that I'll give you is that I feel something will happen in 2012 as well, considering the translations are accurate. If not, oh well. If there's demons, THEN BRING THEM ON. I'll go down fighting. You should all focus on the here and now, and improving yourself for what lies ahead in our futures, whatever that may be.
And Shenron, you wannabe demon, meet up with me sometime and we'll fight, and after you're lying unconscious on the ground you'll realize that your DBZ fantasies are just a myth. Idiot.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: xander on December 02, 2003, 00:28:36
Post by: xander on December 02, 2003, 00:28:36
quote:
Originally posted by TheWanderer
JustAPill, I'm a Christian. The only thing that I'll give you is that I feel something will happen in 2012 as well, considering the translations are accurate. If not, oh well. If there's demons, THEN BRING THEM ON. I'll go down fighting.
Now whose delusional?! LOL!!![:D]
Xander
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: SomeBloke on December 12, 2003, 06:43:29
Post by: SomeBloke on December 12, 2003, 06:43:29
:arrow:
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: kinesis_man on May 03, 2004, 11:18:41
Post by: kinesis_man on May 03, 2004, 11:18:41
this is way too late for anything to come up of this but this is what i think will happen and the causes that might be of effect...
the year 2012...is for some reason uneffected by time...as that no one can see the war coming but they all see it happening...as for the niburu or however you say it...will in fact be coming...{my opinion} and the "place" they are coming from is hell or the dimention of the demons.. and they build a machine very closely related to a wormhole and break into our world and try to take over...things will go on as planned... but thinigs will be different in a sense that we will be 4 dimentional and orks and dragons and the like will be living all around us... sorta like dragon ball or dragoon ball z with the dog people and the dinos running around and such...but you will also not be able to be like the cartoon as it is fake... but things could and will in my opinion be like it in a sense.
the year 2012...is for some reason uneffected by time...as that no one can see the war coming but they all see it happening...as for the niburu or however you say it...will in fact be coming...{my opinion} and the "place" they are coming from is hell or the dimention of the demons.. and they build a machine very closely related to a wormhole and break into our world and try to take over...things will go on as planned... but thinigs will be different in a sense that we will be 4 dimentional and orks and dragons and the like will be living all around us... sorta like dragon ball or dragoon ball z with the dog people and the dinos running around and such...but you will also not be able to be like the cartoon as it is fake... but things could and will in my opinion be like it in a sense.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: beavis on May 03, 2004, 11:45:06
Post by: beavis on May 03, 2004, 11:45:06
Clow: Once again I say that I only want experiences and info on 2012 coming early.
Then you should look up relativity theory about time dilation. The time the Mayans said 2012 would be could be now or any other year close to 2012 on our calenders, because time moves at different rates for different places, and the Mayans couldnt have known everything that would happen to earth in their next 5000 years.
Then you should look up relativity theory about time dilation. The time the Mayans said 2012 would be could be now or any other year close to 2012 on our calenders, because time moves at different rates for different places, and the Mayans couldnt have known everything that would happen to earth in their next 5000 years.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Yerzak06 on May 03, 2004, 19:36:27
Post by: Yerzak06 on May 03, 2004, 19:36:27
you really cant associate bad things or bad feelings having anything to do with 2012 coming early. Its kind of like placing bets or having a feeling on who will win the super-bowl, just because events have something to do with the football game doesnt mean it will start early. All wars, physical and non-physical, have tensions build up before they actually start. Thats probly what yall are feeling.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: kinesis_man on May 04, 2004, 07:49:21
Post by: kinesis_man on May 04, 2004, 07:49:21
i agree with yernak all the way on this one...maybe we all are feeling the war get closer to being real...if there is gonna be one....just like in the preseason for the football games you can feel who you think is gonna be playing at the superbowl and it may or maynot happen the way we feel.....
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: beavis on May 04, 2004, 10:16:58
Post by: beavis on May 04, 2004, 10:16:58
Did the Mayans understand time dilation at all? If not, they were probably hundreds of years off. If they did, they'll only be a few years off.
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: kinesis_man on May 05, 2004, 07:33:10
Post by: kinesis_man on May 05, 2004, 07:33:10
well i dont know if this means nothing or not...but this is wat happened earier this morning as i was waking up....
you know how it is when you are first waking up?...the para-non-para state where you wanna stretch and sh** but after a few mins i felt i was back to sleep or obe...something like it...but only for a few secs..{this is normal to some and unique to others...me being the others} .... well that i though was fine...it has to happen sometime..since i am training to ap......well now it gets crazy....i started to black out every so oftern as if something was wrong around me...and i felt like i was being pulled down to the planet like the cells were all laying down..{u know what i mean???} ... then when i went to the college...{thats where i come to go online} it happened again....but this time i went obe for 10 mins...talking to some creature....dont know who ...but he said that its starting..over and over again...i asked him what was...ut he kept saying the same thing...its starting its starting...its starting.....{time for a headache}....then i snapted back ...cause i felt like moving my hand...{thats how i get back from ap and obe's...} and now here i am talking to you guys...
you know how it is when you are first waking up?...the para-non-para state where you wanna stretch and sh** but after a few mins i felt i was back to sleep or obe...something like it...but only for a few secs..{this is normal to some and unique to others...me being the others} .... well that i though was fine...it has to happen sometime..since i am training to ap......well now it gets crazy....i started to black out every so oftern as if something was wrong around me...and i felt like i was being pulled down to the planet like the cells were all laying down..{u know what i mean???} ... then when i went to the college...{thats where i come to go online} it happened again....but this time i went obe for 10 mins...talking to some creature....dont know who ...but he said that its starting..over and over again...i asked him what was...ut he kept saying the same thing...its starting its starting...its starting.....{time for a headache}....then i snapted back ...cause i felt like moving my hand...{thats how i get back from ap and obe's...} and now here i am talking to you guys...
Title: Is 2012 Coming Early?
Post by: Clow on October 21, 2003, 16:09:51
Post by: Clow on October 21, 2003, 16:09:51
O.k. It is known by many people that in the year of 2012 demons are going to attack our demension.(Some people don't beleive that so if you don't believe this then don't post I want some actual answers out of this.)
I have been seeing and senseing wierd things. The Astral or Spiritual becoming the Physical. Technicly this is not supposed to happen till year 2012.Infact what I saw I drew to make sure I wasn't dreaming I still have the picture. It looked almost like an Eyeball. My friend Josie is very good at phycic powers and has been sensing this kinda stuff.
So if you have any experiences put them down so I can try to figure this out. I am nowhere near ready.
I have been seeing and senseing wierd things. The Astral or Spiritual becoming the Physical. Technicly this is not supposed to happen till year 2012.Infact what I saw I drew to make sure I wasn't dreaming I still have the picture. It looked almost like an Eyeball. My friend Josie is very good at phycic powers and has been sensing this kinda stuff.
So if you have any experiences put them down so I can try to figure this out. I am nowhere near ready.