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Veccolo

If free will is fact, then life is no movie.
I don't do much, and I do it well.

nrishiraj

Yes, we have a free will compared to a movie, I think in the terms on how we perceive this world.

Maybe we believe this world is real? But in truth it isn't real.

What is real? How do you define real? If your taking about what you can feel, touch, smell or taste, then real is simply electrical signals interpreated by your brain?

Logic

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If free will is fact, then life is no movie.


That makes as much sense as the opposite, which are both irrelevant.

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Did you know that when information enters the eyes it's 2D and upside down? it's then passed through the brain and when it hits the visual cortex, stuff is taken out and stuff is put in based on the person's belief?


When light waves enter the eye, and they reach the retina, they are flipped upside down because it is a concave surface, like that of a spoon (the concave side of a spoon reflects upside down). Stuff is taken out and stuff is put in? Stuff you don't see, is because your retina never picks up on. Things being put in or taken out because of belief, is psychological.

Way to quote The Matrix, it was such a good movie..
We are not truly lost, until we lose ourselves.

Veccolo

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Originally posted by Logic
That makes as much sense as the opposite, which are both irrelevant.


Hm? In a movie everything is predetermined, and because of that, no free will involved.

_If_ we have free will, life cannot be a movie.

I answered to the "Could life all just been a movie?" question, not to the stuff he added later.

We don't really know if we have free will or not, so a definite answer to this question is impossible.
I don't do much, and I do it well.

Logic

Maybe everything in life is predetermined, and only the illusion of free will exists.
We are not truly lost, until we lose ourselves.

ImmuredSoul

Watch the Truman Show. (I think this is what the movie is called.) When it first came out, I watched it and became extremely paranoid because of it, but I suppose that is just me. [:D]
If I am to become that which will kill me, then perhaps I should just commit suicide? - My Immured Soul

Adi

It's not a movie it's a game.  Like a big role playing game for higher selves.  The interactive nature of it means not a movie.  But roles/characters are temporary.  Being one gender is temporary.  etc.  The major illusion is that the physical density is so important, death supposively is something to avoid, etc, of course it doesnt matter to spirit, who is immortal.  Most people while realising some thing isn't quite right dont get the full extent of it.  Playing back memories doesn't mean its all a movie.

just a few thoughts... :)

beavis

if life is a movie, i want my money back

ImmuredSoul

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Originally posted by Adi

It's not a movie it's a game.  Like a big role playing game for higher selves.  The interactive nature of it means not a movie.  But roles/characters are temporary.  Being one gender is temporary.  etc.  The major illusion is that the physical density is so important, death supposively is something to avoid, etc, of course it doesnt matter to spirit, who is immortal.  Most people while realising some thing isn't quite right dont get the full extent of it.  Playing back memories doesn't mean its all a movie.

just a few thoughts... :)



Ever read a book series called Book of Swords? Fred Saberhagen. That's a good series, and continuation goes with the Book of Lost Swords. Okay, truthfullu I've only read the first two because I've not been able to find the third, but that's not the point. In it, higher beings are playing a game.
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Originally posted by beavis

if life is a movie, i want my money back


LOL! Sorry, life is nonrefundable.
If I am to become that which will kill me, then perhaps I should just commit suicide? - My Immured Soul

gravy

Well if life is a Movie, it's a bloddy boring one.  You want to know if this world is real?  Get a sharp object, stab yourself in the arm, and come back and tell me if that wasn't real enough for you.  There's infinite number of ways to describe what reality is, just the fact that you question reality makes it real.  Movie characters don't question their reality, neither do game characters.  Whatever this life is, I will just go on living it because there's got to be a reason I'm here.  I define my life by the choices I make every day.  There's no way to prove that our choices aren't or are predetermined because every action you take, no matter how spontaneous, can be described as predetermined.

I advice to you, just live your life, there's no need to add extra confusion to it.  The truth will find you one day.

ImmuredSoul

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Well if life is a Movie, it's a bloddy boring one.

Perhaps yours, but my 'movie' is fantastically alive. [;)]

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You want to know if this world is real? Get a sharp object, stab yourself in the arm, and come back and tell me if that wasn't real enough for you.

Movie characters can get hurt as well, but we can't feel their pain. Want to know why? Because we're not them. If you get jabbed with an object, I'm certain I won't feel your pain, so how do I really know if that was real or not? Just because I felt it; somebody could have programmed it into me. [^]

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There's infinite number of ways to describe what reality is, just the fact that you question reality makes it real. Movie characters don't question their reality, neither do game characters.

Uhm, I believe some characters in games and movies do question their realities, thank you very much. And please inform us of more of these "infinite number of ways to describe what reality is" would you? Thank you. [|)]

 
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Whatever this life is, I will just go on living it because there's got to be a reason I'm here. I define my life by the choices I make every day. There's no way to prove that our choices aren't or are predetermined because every action you take, no matter how spontaneous, can be described as predetermined.

Great, the more you live, the better things become. Drama, comedy, etc. is in life, as previously mentioned. I know we don't really think that life is exciting, but think of the editeding someone out there is having with our lives now. (Oh, and think of reality tv; don't get me started there, I hate reality tv, but that's television and they seem to be predetermined when they had choices of their own, etc.) The choices you make are the most interesting, and it's why some people stay "tuned". Oh yeah, last statement, I really like that.

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I advice to you, just live your life, there's no need to add extra confusion to it. The truth will find you one day.

And again, why the word 'extra' unless life is already confusing? Confusion is great to play upon. I love this movie that is life!
If I am to become that which will kill me, then perhaps I should just commit suicide? - My Immured Soul

Phong

Watching a movie requires a certain detachment from life. Instead of worrying about your work, your family, your friends, or even yourself, you enter into a hypnotic state where you are absorbed into a pseudo-experience of what's on the screen.

Maybe life is a pseudo-experience, then? Maybe we're detached from something else in this altered state of consciousness we call wakefulness. So absorbed are we, we would have forgotten who we really are. That would explain our general confusion over the matter.

Why it's so difficult to remember, that's another question. It's not as simple as closing your eyes or looking away from the screen, is it?

Adi

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Ever read a book series called Book of Swords? Fred Saberhagen. That's a good series, and continuation goes with the Book of Lost Swords. Okay, truthfullu I've only read the first two because I've not been able to find the third, but that's not the point. In it, higher beings are playing a game.


No I havn't.  Been a long time since I read any fiction... heh.   Looks interesting.  If only our game had swords in it like that, would be kinda neat.  I'd get the sword that can slay annoying astral entities, which ever that is (yes my fault my shields are low i got drunk again lol).

Hmm contemplating this stuff is mind boggling i'm gettin on with life now :P

nrishiraj

Could life all just been a movie? Think about it, we could be all actors and actresses (there's police officers, teachers, crime, action, sex etc). Just like in the movie "Last Action Hero" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107362). A boy discovers a magic ticket which he can be in any movie and interact with the actors and actresses. Well, since we are multi-dimesional beings maybe we can choose which movie to be in. But the movie would be called a world, when we dream, astral travel etc, isn't that going into different movies a.k.a worlds?

So if this is the case, perhaps when we die we can watch our life back as a movie and think "oh it was only a movie, it isn't real."

Also, the directors are The Illumaniti / Freemasons?

Do we have free will? Yes we do. I'm taking about how we perceive this world.

Perhaps we believe this world is real? But in truth it isn't real.

What is real? How do you define real? If your taking about what you can feel, touch, smell or taste, then real is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain?

Did you know that when information enters the eyes it's 2D and upside down? it's then passed through the brain and when it hits the visual cortex, stuff is taken out and stuff is put in based on the person's belief?

This is mainstream science too.

Your thoughts?