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Methen

This is something I have notice literally billions of people do all the time, They will judge a persons actual age by the age of the age of that persons physical body,instead of judging by the soul that drives that body, That would be like  me judging you by how old your are by the age of the car you drive around , For example if you were to go out any buy your self a brand new  truck tomorrow and drive it around for a period of five years, Does that make you the person driving it five years old, Now compare that to a soul that has reincarnated hundreds of times and is well over a thousand years old that has decided to come back to earth get their self a  new body, Does that age of that new body actually determine the age of the soul driving that body? You tube is loaded with videos of children under the age of 4 playing a piano better then Mozart. Just where do they think that kid got his talents from, That 5 year old little boy may appear to be only 5 but he may have a soul that can be well over 5 thousand years old,People need to stop judging by a persons maturity by that persons physical age, Cause physical age does not count its as simple as that...

Nameless

Okay, but we are here in this physical world and 'here' that is pretty much what counts as what you see is, well, what you see. If I see a kid who looks about 5 I'm going to say he is about 5 - how the heck am I to know he's actually 5,000? Is he going to tell me, am I going to believe him if he does?

On a side note - I understand what you are saying. :-)

LightBeam

The age of all spirits is infinite. You cant calculate incarnation age by the physical law of time and space, because we exist simultaneously everywhere as all the possible characters, in many realities, in many time periods. The reason some people may seem more advanced than others is because for this particular character they have chosen certain skills and abilities, while others have chosen to experience limitations. Some children may appear to be geniuses. The reasons for this is that they kept the connection with another character that had these skills, or because their brains have different wiring that allows much bigger learning capacity. But that doesn't mean they are older souls than people who work as street cleaners for example. I would still not let a 5 year old drive a car, because as physical characters you still need to learn the specifics of this environment before you are let to do certain things.
"The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem."
Captain Jack Sparrow

Methen

Quote from: LightBeam on September 26, 2016, 17:34:26
The age of all spirits is infinite. You cant calculate incarnation age by the physical law of time and space, because we exist simultaneously everywhere as all the possible characters, in many realities, in many time periods. The reason some people may seem more advanced than others is because for this particular character they have chosen certain skills and abilities, while others have chosen to experience limitations. Some children may appear to be geniuses. The reasons for this is that they kept the connection with another character that had these skills, or because their brains have different wiring that allows much bigger learning capacity. But that doesn't mean they are older souls than people who work as street cleaners for example. I would still not let a 5 year old drive a car, because as physical characters you still need to learn the specifics of this environment before you are let to do certain things.
Why exactly are you treating this as some form of role play character is that how you look at life as role play character?

Methen

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Quote from: Nameless on September 26, 2016, 17:12:22
Okay, but we are here in this physical world and 'here' that is pretty much what counts as what you see is, well, what you see. If I see a kid who looks about 5 I'm going to say he is about 5 - how the heck am I to know he's actually 5,000? Is he going to tell me, am I going to believe him if he does?

On a side note - I understand what you are saying. :-)
I see so what  you are saying is what counts is only what people see with their physical eyes, what is that old saying, The Good Lord gave them eyes But yet they can not see, Hence the reason why  humanity still lives in ignorance and sadness...

Nameless

Aw that is so sad the way you put it Methen. I don't think there is anything wrong with my eyes or the eyes of humanity at all. Our eyes work just as intended - to see our physical reality in the here and now. The other stuff is spiritual and is not meant to be seen with our physical eyes. It is only shown to those who seek and then only as they are able to comprehend. I wish ignorance was bliss, I would be in hog heaven :-)

LightBeam

Quote from: Methen on September 26, 2016, 19:59:32
Why exactly are you treating this as some form of role play character is that how you look at life as role play character?

Yes, absolutely. For learning purposes, systems like ours are created with limitations on purpose.
"The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem."
Captain Jack Sparrow

Methen

Quote from: Nameless on September 26, 2016, 20:47:49
Aw that is so sad the way you put it Methen. I don't think there is anything wrong with my eyes or the eyes of humanity at all. Our eyes work just as intended - to see our physical reality in the here and now. The other stuff is spiritual and is not meant to be seen with our physical eyes. It is only shown to those who seek and then only as they are able to comprehend. I wish ignorance was bliss, I would be in hog heaven :-)
Yes it is sad, For the human race  has degraded to such a point they actually trial 5 year children as adults that is what the human race has become and it is sad and sickening...

Methen

Quote from: LightBeam on September 26, 2016, 22:58:41
Yes, absolutely. For learning purposes, systems like ours are created with limitations on purpose.
The only restrictions we have on the learning system as you call it is that which we allow to be put on it, That is part of the whole problem, The group mind playing dictator telling everyone else what they may or may not be allowed to do...

Lumaza

Quote from: Methen on September 27, 2016, 03:36:22
The only restrictions we have on the learning system as you call it is that which we allow to be put on it, That is part of the whole problem, The group mind playing dictator telling everyone else what they may or may not be allowed to do...
Methen, you had a choice to come here to this Earth system/school. You made that choice before you came and now you are here. Now you need to find the purpose for that choice you previously made. I'm sure though that that choice wasn't made so you could come here and hate the choice you already made. That was a real tongue twister there, lol.  :-D
"The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence."  Nicolai Tesla

Methen

Quote from: Lumaza on September 27, 2016, 04:05:25
Methen, you had a choice to come here to this Earth system/school. You made that choice before you came and now you are here. Now you need to find the purpose for that choice you previously made. I'm sure though that that choice wasn't made so you could come here and hate the choice you already made. That was a real tongue twister there, lol.  :-D
Dont know Dont care, I hate this stinking world...

Nameless

Dear Methen,
You are feeling the weight of the world, the anger, the bitterness, the injustice and the wrong. I'm sorry. I know just how over-whelming that feeling is but that is only one side.

On the other side there is brightness and light and laughter and justice and right. To get there you have to let go of the things you can do nothing about and concentrate only on your small place in it.