I had an idea. I think it's true that the more people concentrate on the same thing the more energy is given to that thing/idea/goal whatever. A friend and I once bought a lottery ticket, just picked random numbers and then continually concentrated on making those numbers the ones which came up until the drawing. Three of our six numbers came up which I found encouraging...but it still only got us %5, what we had paid for the ticket in the first place. Haha. Anyway. What if I got a bigger group together to do the same thing. We'd randomly select somebody to get a ticket and then everybody concentrate on making their numbers happen. If they win the prize is split among the group. Even if we had a bunch of members everybody would still get quite a lot of cash and we could wash rinse repeat. Does anybody think this is a good idea?
I read about someone who won like that...so I am in.
Awesome. If more people say they'll do it I will start a group on groupbox.com and we can give it a try.
lol let's make some money
I am pretty good at pulling the numbers. I have only won five out of six once. Most of the time I'll get three or four while the losing numbers are not so far off those randomly selected...they're always reversed or one number off. It is a little maddening I can never seem to ever get them all right. With my five out of six...the last number was 35 instead of 34. A 34 would have made 4.2 million dollars seem real to me.
It doesn't seem I can will numbers to appear (I never win that way). It's not luck either.
Use subconsciousness. Sometimes they're buried in a stack of papers, sometimes someone carved them into the table...
Okay. Here is the link to the Lotter Group on groupbox.
lotterygroup.groupbox.com
I've made it a members only group so random people wont flood it. Anyone here who wants to join just apply and I'll approve it. I think once we have around 10 people we can start. If you have friends who are into spirituality/OBEs/magic/etc, anything involving focused intention you can tell them about it. I don't really know how many people is enough, but all the members should be willing to make a sincere effort. No free-riders! Haha
I'm in too!!!
Awesome :) Join the groupbox group and when we've got 10 or more people we can start. Strange; I thought recruiting volunteers for this experiment would go faster, especially here. Haha
Hmmmm... I don't think this will work. Will that belief negatively impact the group's performance?
You just can't be in the group if you don't believe!!!!!
QuoteHmmmm... I don't think this will work. Will that belief negatively impact the group's performance?
I think that it would. Just wait until we start to earn money so your belief will change, and then join the group.
I'm in.
So how many are we up to?
Counting you phxsun, 4 people have said they're in: Lexy, G.Blaze, phxsun, uhsumdumboy. So including me that's 5. No one has applied to join the groupbox though and that's how I was trying to organize our effort. But maybe the site has a glitch or I just looked at it wrong. Did any of you four try to join?
As far as I know I joined!!!! :?
Hm. It still doesn't show me anybody waiting for approval. I changed the setting so maybe now it will work right. Can everybody who tried to join try again? And anybody else who wants to join too. Here's the link again. http://lotterygroup.groupbox.com
Sorry
hey i did it.
approve me!
Hey, I just applied to join. I have attempted to mine lottery numbers from lucid dreams, with some success. It's hard to remember all the numbers.
We should try and use the numbers we all got in our confirmation email. Mine were 45 13. 8-)
Alrighty. Kaje and Andrew now approved. While using the numbers you got in your confirmation email is worth a try, the idea of having a group is so we can use our collective ability. We can't do that trying to predict numbers. We need to use our collective focus to try to make certain numbers appear, all focusing on the same numbers.
92 88
and where will this lottery take place?
Do i pay at my state or just concentrate on one certain lottery
Im reading all these numbers and using my will to make it not those numbers...
Ok I'm not, but you guys should be ashamed of yourselfs... sorta...but if you guys do win you should give all the money away IMO.
Quote from: SomeRandom on June 30, 2011, 10:51:38
Im reading all these numbers and using my will to make it not those numbers...
Ok I'm not, but you guys should be ashamed of yourselfs... sorta...but if you guys do win you should give all the money away IMO.
Why should we be ashamed of ourselves? I've got college loans to pay off...
ok someone put all the numbers for simplicity issues.
And also tell where you will buy these tickets so i can concentrate at the location as well.
Cuz i cant really buy these due to im 16 and my parents wont allow it lol
you are not suppose to put the numbers here! :roll:
I wasn't planning to start trying until we have at least 10 people in the group. We'll compare the biggest pot in our local lotteries and the person who's nearest the biggest one will buy a ticket for it and tell the group the numbers and when and where the draw will be, preferably for a draw that's in at least a few days so we all have time to focus.
We don't need to discuss numbers on here though. When there's at least 10 people in the groupbox group we can discuss it on there.
oooooh ok thats true.
So ok, ima try and get my friend but he doesnt have an ap account or will do the xbox thing since i know it all.
And its not that friend who will spill the beans (not like anyone else would care or believe that concentrating and what not will work lol)
But dont count him yet.
Attempting to join the groupbox.
I reckon we should have a picture of what the draw machine and tv prsenters and set look like to help us visualize it so we're concentrating on the same draw. At the very least know the colours of the balls. Would help to know the voice of the guy who announces the numbers too.
I was wondering, do you think we might stand a better chance if we all watched the same draw live and tried to will each ball at the moment its drawn?
that can be additional help but some wont have the channel because, well you just dont have them.
but you can do that ALSO. hint also lol.
But the picture thing is a good idea.
IMO, the best way is for us to feel like we already won before the drawing. Choose the reality we want to slip into in the moment. The numbers and all that are irrelevant to to feeling we give off.
Would it not be better if we all tried to purchase a ticket from the same lottery, (power ball, mega millions) with the same numbers, and concentrate on them that way??
No because there is no "Apply to All" option available in Slide Master. Normal View would remain uncompromised as the pre-programmed will from the Big Bang spark is denser, more powerful and more effective in this dimensional vibration than thought. Thought may play a role in evolution but the effects set in motion are not apparent in our time-frame perspective and work very slowly. By the time the numbers that you experienced in the metaphysical realm come up, our civilisation may not even exist and hence the idea may remain unmanifest. In a parallel universe, however, some lucky bastard that looks like you gets it right and wins. :-D
But how do you know that pre-programmed will isnt for us to manifest the winning lottery numbers? :-D
I do believe in fate but there's got to be some wiggle room or what would be the point.
Yeah. There is wiggle room in the archetypal realm of reality. The limbo. The "Master Slide". We experience it when we enter the Phase. :-D
Maybe even our conscious thinking here can affect reality and decide upon the way things go. Like giraffes' ungulate ancestors resembling short-necked antelopes aeons ago. Then they looked up at acacia trees and made a wish...they wished that they could reach for the nutrients higher up. Many millennia later and voila...long necked giraffes...
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/32/100709889_005fc6d67b.jpg)
But it took them all that time for that dream to come true...be careful what you wish for! :lol:
Perhaps we do this on an unconscious level too...and when we enter the Phase, we become that unconscious mind...Here is some curious conclusions that professors at Harvard and Boston universities recently arrived at:
When humans started to move out of Africa to explore the rest of the world, evolution mutated and held on to a gene associated with risk-taking and the will to be adventurous - the DRD4 gene. Evidence shows that the distribution of the two main alleles (versions) of the gene and the ancient migration patterns appear to be congruent. The mutations that followed do not seem random at all and seem to have purpose...
Each allele appear to mark specific personality traits in people. While a 4R allele is linked to prudent individuals, the 7R and 2R ones seem to indicate more impulsive behaviour in others. It is believed that individuals that possess the latter versions coped with dangerous situations a lot better and were more capable of surviving and reproducing under more challenging conditions.
Thus it was concluded that mass migration can influence our genetic make-up and specifically modify it in the evolutionary scale. Apparently, the 7R allele arose as a rare mutation 50,000 years ago after we left our home continent and spread throughout the world. Later, the 2R modified version emerged in Asia.
More interestingly, those that have been diagnosed with ADHD are twice as likely to have the 7R allele. Perhaps some of the symptoms that we think indicate a "disorder" - such as quick movements and rapid shifts in focus - are actually survival traits from natural selection.
Fascinating science... 8-)
Blis accepted.
QuoteI reckon we should have a picture of what the draw machine and tv prsenters and set look like to help us visualize it so we're concentrating on the same draw. At the very least know the colours of the balls. Would help to know the voice of the guy who announces the numbers too.
I was wondering, do you think we might stand a better chance if we all watched the same draw live and tried to will each ball at the moment its drawn?
As pointed out by somebody else, not all of us will have access to the same live draw. I'm living in Hong Kong right now :-P
QuoteIMO, the best way is for us to feel like we already won before the drawing. Choose the reality we want to slip into in the moment. The numbers and all that are irrelevant to to feeling we give off.
Both of these methods are legitimate, but it depends on how you yourself believe it works. I think this is the basic difference between carefully directed psychic manipulation and a spell, the way you approach it. The problem with being too detail oriented is that the details could distract from the goal and you really can't know all the details anyway because reality is way too complex. And the problem with ignoring the details altogether and focusing on the outcome only is that a basic knowledge of the details can help to have a more educated and well defined goal to focus on.
If ritual magic is a part of your practice then cast a spell; If you're religious then pray; If you're a psychic then just focus. I think we should have some details so we can all be on the same page but not be too focused on having them all. We'll need to know when and where the drawing will be and the numbers on our ticket. Use all the time in-between when we're told the numbers and the drawing to use whatever method of focusing suits you best. We can also youtube a recording of that drawing in the past so we can have a visualization to focus on.
QuoteWould it not be better if we all tried to purchase a ticket from the same lottery, (power ball, mega millions) with the same numbers, and concentrate on them that way??
No. There would be no point in more than one person purchasing a ticket with the same numbers if the pot will be split among us anyway. There would also be virtually no point in more than one person purchasing tickets with different numbers because we're not playing the odds; that's called gambling. We're trying to win. One ticket is enough. Also, we don't all live in the same place.
I'm still in this..save me a spot..been really busy lately.
If one of us wins we need to split it amongst the group
no matter where we play. Can you paypal millions? :-D
With all the money we win we can meet up at some nice hotel and give bags of cash. :-D
I had a dream a few nights ago where someone told me this whole lottery thing was a good idea. Can't want to win it. :lol:
QuoteI'm still in this..save me a spot..been really busy lately.
Spot saved :)
QuoteIf one of us wins we need to split it amongst the group
no matter where we play. Can you paypal millions?
I don't know...I was just waiting until we got to it to handle that.
QuoteWith all the money we win we can meet up at some nice hotel and give bags of cash.
Good idea.
QuoteI had a dream a few nights ago where someone told me this whole lottery thing was a good idea. Can't want to win it.
That's encouraging :)
Not to be a stick in the mud here, but this same question was posed to my Chi Gong instructor - and he said it's possible, but a bad idea. Money pooled for lottery and gambling purposed carries negative energy. Especially in Vegas :P hehe
But he did say, that if you did use intention and focus to alter a game of chance to give it away to charity. This will 'smudge' the negative energy attached to the money, and give you a hefty lot of good karma.
That's his take on it. I tend to trust much of what he says.
hhhhany way. Just thought I'd drop my 2 cents here :)
Good luck on your experiment :wink:
Quote from: kaul on July 09, 2011, 11:21:52
Not to be a stick in the mud here, but this same question was posed to my Chi Gong instructor - and he said it's possible, but a bad idea. Money pooled for lottery and gambling purposed carries negative energy. Especially in Vegas :P hehe
But he did say, that if you did use intention and focus to alter a game of chance to give it away to charity. This will 'smudge' the negative energy attached to the money, and give you a hefty lot of good karma.
That's his take on it. I tend to trust much of what he says.
hhhhany way. Just thought I'd drop my 2 cents here :)
Good luck on your experiment :wink:
Someone is going to win it. It may as well be us!!!!
I'm curious to see how this plays out. Good luck :wink:
Thanks BlueHalcyon. :-)
As for the energy of the money from a lottery pot being negative; I don't really think that it would be. That's just my opinion though. I think most people who buy a ticket do so with either a neutral or a mildly hopeful attitude. I'm sure gambling addicts spread a little of their negative energy, but I don't think it would be enough to make the overall energy of the prize negative, at least in a lottery. It probably would be in a casino though. I'm not even really sure if the quality of the energy that came along with the prize would matter. I think energy can be changed. The attitude with which the money is received and handled probably has a pretty big impact on its energy too. My personal plan if this works is to get to a certain level of wealth and then start giving all the money after that to charities and good causes. I want to be one of the rich people who makes the world a better place. As they say, you have to have money to make money. The richer you are the more excess money you can harvest from investments and give away.
I want to put my winnings towards consciousness studies... maybe set up an institute similar to the Monroe institute to further explore this exciting stuff. 8-)
QuoteI want to put my winnings towards consciousness studies... maybe set up an institute similar to the Monroe institute to further explore this exciting stuff.
One good lesson to teach in that institute would be how it was founded. Haha
We're still at 5 people. When Lexy and my two friends who were interested join that'll be 8. If any of you know somebody whom you think would be a good candidate you can tell them about it. We'll start when we're at 10-15 people.
hehe. Well make sure friends are legit and actually into this because they may just say "yea ill concentrate" but not mean it.
My friends into this a lil lil lil lil bit. aka not really, we just talk about it. me and him tried to do things like telepathy and what not but we dont live close so not much practice. i think he would try but ima tlk to him. hes honest and say how much effort he will put into this
but just make sure the friends are reliable :-D
I am really tired of these negative people saying negatives things. Money is not negative, if you believe that you will never have any.
Nothing is inherently negative or positive. It's what you do with it. :-D
Once we get to 10 people I see we give it a go.
Quotejust make sure the friends are reliable
That's what I mean by "good candidates."
And that's right, money isn't negative. Just like bullets aren't bad. People can be negative or positive...or neither, but tools are just tools. I think things can retain the negative or positive energy people put in them, but energy can be easily changed and probably affects you relative to how you think it will. Like in the Skeleton Key how hoodoo can only hurt you if you believe in it.
QuoteOnce we get to 10 people I see we give it a go.
When we get 10 people we'll move the conversation to groupbox and get this thing rolling.
You're approved Lexy. +1
Quote from: Lexy on July 11, 2011, 23:09:17
I am really tired of these negative people saying negatives things. Money is not negative, if you believe that you will never have any.
Spot on! Things are what you make them in your mind. Also, a lot of people who say money is negative use that as an excuse to not make the effort to get it. LOL! :-D
It is not money that is negative. In fact money, if applied correctly, can act as an aid. The negative and positive are concepts existent in people's minds.
true dat.
Anyways their is a technique i would like to share when we get the 10 people.
it doesnt seem like a normal one, and i think its been said.. but i wana put detail on it :-D
confusing i know.
OH! :-o
Lets all hope for more people that are legit to join!
like the lottery theory except with the people! :-D :-D :-D
this is taking too long, I am going to win all the money before this gets going :-D
I say we do this at lucky 7
The secret to winning the lottery is this...
Tap your hand and rotate your left foot counter-clockwise while spinning clock-wise and singing "mary had a little lamb" in russian.
~astraladdict
lol. Ok well lets discuss on starting at the site because it is taking a while for this to start.
:-D
Wonder how many people i'll see doing that at a 711
~astraladdict
Well we still have 6 people. There was n 7th who seemed interested but hasn't joined yet.
I want to win the euromillion !!!!!
I see the numbers sometimes, BUT THEY ARE DEAD WRONG, last week i screamed in my dream to the people around me to tell me the numbers because i knew i would soon woke up, the numbers a girl told me in the dream were WRONG
I tried astral projection, one time i got all the numbers but none of them were like the real numbers,
I don't think it is possible to find the real numbers, even when asking them with a valid date and everything...
By the way your idea won't work, you would need at least a million people or MORE to influence something as random as the lottery numbers, MILLIONS of people are thinking about the lottery every day, you can't stop them!
IT is better to try to see the numbers wich will come up rather than trying to choose a future for millions of people who are influencing that future already...
GOOD LUCK
:roll:
Its gonna work but I can't tell you why or how...top secret. 8-)
:-D
*swats at a fly but hits himself instead* Fast bonker >.< Money, actually let me change that. Currency, is an essential part of both physical and the realm. It is needed to survive. You need food and a house, how do you get it? You pay for it. So no, money is not a bad thing. It's what money can do to people that make it bad. How it can turn people greedy and selfish. My parents are a fine example of this sadly enough.
~astraladdict
I am in :] I'll join the group, and help out!
although I do not know how helpful I will be to the goal. I believe it will work, but I am still trying to learn to meditate, and I would assume meditating on those lottery numbers would increase the energy that is sent to those numbers.
Quote from: HiRes on July 25, 2011, 16:33:32
I am in :] I'll join the group, and help out!
although I do not know how helpful I will be to the goal. I believe it will work, but I am still trying to learn to meditate, and I would assume meditating on those lottery numbers would increase the energy that is sent to those numbers.
Not enough to change the numbers i'm afraid...
Don't forget at least 5 to 20 million people are thinking about their own numbers coming up.
Like I said before, It would be easier to try to see the numbers instead of changing them...
but whateva !
Quote from: King on July 25, 2011, 19:17:20
Not enough to change the numbers i'm afraid...
Don't forget at least 5 to 20 million people are thinking about their own numbers coming up.
Like I said before, It would be easier to try to see the numbers instead of changing them...
but whateva !
I understand :P
Whatever works ;p if we try to get the whole group to see the numbers and see how many people come up with the same numbers then it might work :D
Just thought i'd share this with y'all. My mom came home with some of those scratch off, but handed me to do one. I kid you not, i used my intuition and randomly chose where to scratch. And i actually won! But she took the money -__- bastard
~astraladdict
Quote from: astraladdict on July 25, 2011, 19:49:16
Just thought i'd share this with y'all. My mom came home with some of those scratch off, but handed me to do one. I kid you not, i used my intuition and randomly chose where to scratch. And i actually won! But she took the money -__- bastard
~astraladdict
That really sux v.v;
My grandma focuses on the bingo number she needs, and usually gets it within 5 draws ;P She doesn't even believe in any of this stuff, and labels me as crazy xD
Quote from: HiRes on July 25, 2011, 20:31:30
That really sux v.v;
My grandma focuses on the bingo number she needs, and usually gets it within 5 draws ;P She doesn't even believe in any of this stuff, and labels me as crazy xD
There's only 3 people that know i do all this. I don't want everybody knowing.
~astraladdict
heh.
so is that 7?
And want to get into details on the site?
Quote from: Kaje The Astral Newbie on July 25, 2011, 22:29:29
heh.
so is that 7?
And want to get into details on the site?
Is what 7? Lol i haven't been paying full attention ;P
QuoteI am in :] I'll join the group, and help out!
although I do not know how helpful I will be to the goal. I believe it will work, but I am still trying to learn to meditate, and I would assume meditating on those lottery numbers would increase the energy that is sent to those numbers.
Approved. That's 7 now. If you believe it can work and genuinely contribute you'll be helpful.
The fact that it's so random isn't changed much by the fact that millions of individuals are all focusing in varying degrees on different outcomes. It's still a delicate system of causality which could tip an any direction because it's being pulled in millions. We're different by having several people focus on the same outcome.
This will sound a bit crazy..but here goes.
I might be dropping out the group. Twelve hours ago I was definately dropping out.
I came up with what I thought was an original idea to combat the hopes of all the millions of players and to make it easier to force the draw. I had a good feeling about it. Last night I kind of half carried out this idea in thinking about how I would go about it.
Dont want to give away my idea here but while I was doing it I started getting visions. Basically it seemed like a couple of chinese looking guys were alerted to my presense by what I was doing to the machine. They didnt seem happy.
It seemed like I spent the rest of the night under psychic attack. If my initial feeling to what was going on is correct, these guys are already doing the lottery thing and have serious psychic abilities. I was getting sucked into astral environments against my will. It felt like my dreams were being invaded and taken control of. I was lucid throughout and couldnt change things, couldnt wake myself up or enter the void.
Occasionally I would wake up naturally but couldnt keep myself awake. The moment my eyes would close I would be sucked into another place. It took me half the night to improvise a way to protect myself and stay awake.
I dont have nightmares.
Just wanted to let y'all know what you might be letting yourself in for if your going to do more than just vizualise winning. I know, it sounds crazy...but thats what it felt like.
Build up a shield to block them
~astraladdict
Hey, you shouldn't do it if you are not comfortable. There are plenty of lotteries and someone has to win them :wink: I don't see why these other guys can't win too. Really, I don't take nightmares seriously since its not coming from a good place. Why would it matter to them if you win?
Tried shields, tried all sorts of ideas.
Whatever it was I dont regard it as a nightmare. I value my dreams, even the "bad" ones. This was something else. I've got one other idea of what could have caused it(I did something else last night too). I'm going to test it tonight.
Either way I'll still share my idea with the group.
Quote from: blis on July 26, 2011, 13:28:59
Basically it seemed like a couple of chinese looking guys were alerted to my presense by what I was doing to the machine. They didnt seem happy.
It seemed like I spent the rest of the night under psychic attack.
I LOL'd!!
................................................ !!
The best protection is KNOWING that you're 100% safe and remaining positive at all times.
I'm not talking about simply "believing" you're safe... I mean *KNOWING* without a shadow of a doubt that you're safe.
*KNOWING* that nothing can touch you.
Ultimately I know the true essense of me is immortal. I know no one can really harm me. Even if you chop off my arm or something you havent made the true essense of me any less. Infact I'm more because I now have the added experience of knowing what it's like to have your arm chopped off.
But it must be frickin scary having your arm chopped off. I'm going to try and avoid it. It's undesirable.
It's the same with the astral. People can do stuff to you that you dont enjoy. Sure I'm ultimately safe but its still an undesirable experience.
But dreams and astral aside, you can cause people real physical harm without ever going near them. I've done it. I wont do it again but I know how easy it is.
Yeah wait and see if it happens again..you really think its something external? Did you tell anyone about this in real life?
When we win, we can't tell anyone either. :evil:
Nah I didnt tell anyone. I think I just created something in a place where they already had something and they noticed.
Even if I'm right and they are real people, I'm not thinking of backing out cause I dont think I could prevail. It just doesnt seem worth getting into a battle with them over large sums of money. It doesnt seem like that sort of action is on the best path for my higher good. Lots of money would make things easier but isnt ultimately neccesary.
Do you really think it will start a battle? They can't have it all & why haven't they got it already?
Besides are you sure you don't have issues with money? Do you think its wrong?
Nah, I dont think theres anything wrong with money...just our attachment to it(hm, maybe you're onto something).
The battle comment sounds silly now I read it back. I was tired when posting last night.
I'll remove you from the group if you're sure you want to withdraw Blis. In my opinion it was probably self created but that's just my opinion. I didn't have the experience. Even if it wasn't, it's not really like they could actually hurt you in the Spirit World. The most an outside entity can do is scare you. The only possible danger I see is that if it was external and they saw what you physically look like they might could come after you if we succeed. But I highly doubt it.
Like anything else as the memory fades it seems less real.
Screw it, I'm still in. I'll iron out the details of my plan and post it on the group site.
Good. The more the merrier.
I've started a thread on the site, so those already in the group should go there to check it out and reply. Once everybody's replied I'll give a recap on our goal and method and we can set a time to meet in chat.
I'm new to the forum, but this is something I've also been trying for quite some time now with a few friends. We've come close a few times and I also noticed it helps to put the numbers in areas of your home that it will gain the most energy. For example, my best attempts were when I had the numbers collecting energy in the "power point" as well as the "money corner" of my apartment. I would like to join the group if youre still doing it. :-)
go to the first page and you will find a link. sign up there :D
ATTENTION ALL MEMBERS A PART OF THIS, GO TO THE LINK EVERY DAY AND LETS GET THIS STARTED :evil:
One more person from the pulse joined so we have 8 now. Everybody who's a member needs to check the site every day. When everybody has replied to my first post so that I know everybody is paying attention I'll recap what we're about and we can decide when to meet in chat.
Log in peoples! 8-)
I just sent a message to the 'Lottery Group'. I hope I'm not too late....
Lol
Can non-US people participate? :)
anyone who will be dedicated and actually participate every day can join.
www.lotterygroup.groupbox.com is where you have to sign up :-D
Of course non-US people can join. I'll be a non-US person after Christmas when I go back to Hong Kong.
I've been really busy but I haven't forgotten. Are you guys ready? You can always pm me, I will respond quickly. Thanks :evil: