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jadrian70

Last weekend I had a dream turn lucid and, during it, came across a family member.

Let me start by saying that I'm concerned that in reading so much material about AP, I may be influencing my subconscious.

Recently I've spent a lot of time perusing the retrievals area on this and another website.  I've read
many references to "The Park" which I believe originated with Robert Monroe.  (I've only just started
his first book.)

When I woke up in my dream I found myself in a park like setting.  It wasn't a particularly nice park. 
There were trees and grass, but it wasn't very lush or inviting.   There were a lot of people there,
but no one was alone.  Everyone was talking to someone else and ignored me completely.   I decided to call my mother's name in the hopes of a visit, but had no luck. 

As I walked the park I came across a building that appeared to be a clubhouse with a bar or restaurant inside.  Everyone inside was occupied and in conversation with some else and paid no attention to me.   As I made my way through the area I stopped for a moment to take stock of the situation and asked myself, 'ok, what is my subconscious trying to teach me here."  The only response I felt was a strong feeling that I was alone.

It wasn't sad or depressing, it was just the impression I had.   Later, much to my surprise, my uncle showed up somewhere else in the building.  He is not deceased, but this is significant for me because he was the one family member that I told about my AP experiences.  (With my grandmother eavesdropping in the other room)  That confession went over like a lead balloon btw. :(

He was very confused about where he was and seemed disoriented and anxious.  He did not seem like a dream character.  Thinking this was my big chance, I was intent on making him as aware as possible of the experience. I asked him repeatedly if he knew where he was, if he knew he was dreaming.  I tried to get him to focus, to demand awareness, to look at his hands. 

I repeated that I was going to be sooo mad if he didn't remember this the next day.   I don't remember everything I said to him, or if he tried to comply, but it ended with my stating that I was going to call him the next day to see if he remembered this.  He still seemed uneasy and said, 'no, no...I'll call you'.   

After that something happened to signal that the LD was over.  I can't remember what is was, but it was like some one walked up to me and said, ok, this one is over, you're going to wake up now and 'click', I opened my eyes.

*I did not get any calls later.*

I'm throwing out some guesses here...
Perhaps the impression that I was alone was to signal that this experience was located entirely in my subconscious?  Or perhaps it was to imply that I don't need to tell or involve other people in my AP experiences.  What's right for me right now, may not be right for them.

Eventually I did text my uncle to ask him if he remembered a shared dream.  He did not, but told me about the dream that he had that same day.  He was in a large hotel and had been running up and down the corridors trying to find a way out.  He was lost and becoming increasingly panicked because he couldn't find his way out to his truck. 

Kinda freaky, but that is pretty much the way I encountered him in my LD.  My entire conversation with him took place in a hallway and his description of being confused and agitated matched the way he seemed in my LD.

Coincidence? Maybe, although secretly I want to chalk it up to me becoming psychic!   :evil: :-D


EscapeVelocity

#1
Don't worry that the material you are reading or are currently engaged with will affect your subconscious and therefore the content of your LDs or other experiences; it does and it will. Your subconscious has to draw from something...

What is singularly important is that you make the realization that the material that sets the presentation for your experiences IS drawn from your subconscious. And you did that. So yes, be aware of it, but just know that that is the material from which you will make your interpretation of the experience/lesson. And we are all unique in that way, to varying degrees...it's just the way it is.

That was the first of a few crucial insights you realized from this LD. This was a lesson. Others will follow.

I think your read on the environment is right, it should tell you that it was not 'alive' enough, therefore it was all your subconscious creation. But you understood the lesson it presented. And you clearly recognized when the lesson was over. That's how these things happen, they're very pragmatic and efficient...when it's over, you're done!  :-D

You asked 'what is my subconscious trying to teach me here?' Great question, maybe more exactly, what is your higher self trying to teach you? But still really good awareness...

Your guesses...these show good insights. Overall well done!

Be ready for more lessons! Have fun!

EV
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
                                                          -O. Wilde

jadrian70

Quote from: EscapeVelocity on June 28, 2014, 03:40:49
Don't worry that the material you are reading or are currently engaged with will affect your subconscious and therefore the content of your LDs or other experiences; it does and it will. Your subconscious has to draw from something...

Thanks, that does make sense.  I guess I just worry about the validity of my experiences and don't want to program myself into expecting things to happen a certain way.   

For instance, I had already been out due to spontaneous OBEs a couple of times before I ran across any instructions that said to get away and don't look at your sleeping body, otherwise you may be snapped back.   My experiences were nothing like that, I was very eager to see myself sleeping and felt no apprehension whatsoever about looking.  I did look and was pleased as punch to confirm I really wasn't in that body anymore.  Once my curiosity was satisfied, I decided to continue on with the adventure.  Yet others seem to have to get away immediately in order to stay out and maintain their focus.  I wonder why we're so different?  :?


Lionheart

#3
Quote from: jadrian70 on June 30, 2014, 20:52:18
Thanks, that does make sense.  I guess I just worry about the validity of my experiences and don't want to program myself into expecting things to happen a certain way.  
That is a very important point you made here Jadrian. Never expect things to happen in a certain way while projecting.

You can experience projection from deep meditation (know as Phasing), climbing out of the body (known as a OBE), Lucid Dreaming and False Awakening. All these end up being projections/NP experiences, but each has a different twist to it.

For the last 4 days I have been experiencing consecutive False Awakenings. Each day they get move realistic and harder to discern. The first 2 days I had triggers, like for instance MJ son that had moved out of the house was in one and the next day another person that shouldn't have been there. The 3rd day I had two back to back experiences and since then I have had to pinch myself when I wake up, just to see if I am still sleeping, lol. Yes, they are that realistic. When I awaken I even find MJ (my better half), wearing the exact or close to the same clothing that she is in my False Awakenings.

I would have to say that out of the 4 days, day 3 was the most bizarre. I had the first False Awaking, which was getting up, having breakfast, watching TV, then all of a sudden strange events started to happen on TV and that tipped me off to the fact that I was till Dreaming. So, I woke up, or at least thought I did. But this was the 2nd False Awakening. It came to the point that I had to actually do a "pinch test" during this one. For some reason they were "looping".

Today's wasn't so bizarre. It had reality discrepancies that were easily noticeable.

Triggers I did notice in all of them was the level of grogginess I had and that fact that I didn't have the mobility or speed that I should have. My motions were occurring almost like I was in "slow motion". But everything else around me happened at a normal speed.

The thing I find that's so unique and fascinating about LD's and False Awakening is that when you have to become aware you are in one in the first place. You are deep in the middle of some kind of vivid scenario. False Awakenings are so vivid and are being played out in what seems like your immediate environment, whereas LDs can occur in any location. That's why it's so hard to become aware you are actually in a FA in the first place. With Phasing or OBE's, you know exactly what you are doing and are fully conscious from the beginning. Thus, less surprises!

Szaxx

The twist with FA's is they are a lucid dream in effect.
You wouldn't believe how much of the 'physical world feel' they have.
It makes you think if this reality is real itself. Lol.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.