Marijauna: THE TRUTH!

Anonymous · August 16, 2003, 20:10:16

Hi Shadowatcher, thanks for posting this. I have to say that I agree with this (but not completely), from what little experience I have had smoking it. I do not believe that marajuana is deadly. I once threw up from smoking too much of it at one time (a very powerful bong hit), but I only threw up that one time the entire night, and I was fine the next day. The government, unfortunately, will probably never legalize marajuana (not even for medicinal use) because though they could tax the heck out of it, they'd be losing a lot of money from fines and what not. Plus, people probably wouldn't trust corporations growing it- it isn't even so much that as it is that they wouldn't want to pay for it when they could grow it themselves. The simple fact is, the government could give a damn about how much violence there is in the cities. All they care about is how much money they are making from the established laws. On the other hand, if people become unhappy enough about this, the government will be forced to legalize it because of the simple fact that they exist only because the common people allow them to. Therefore, if you got enough people outraged enough about it, the government would indeed legalize it. Bush has helped us plenty what with Homeland security and all, not to mention the downfall of the economy due to the "terror alert levels." So now's as good a time as any to get a movement going (hint hint, lol).

As with anything, as long as it is used in moderation and not abused, then it's safe.

Tenacious · August 16, 2003, 20:37:34

Shadowcatcher-

Thank you VERY much for posting that! [8D] I have used it before, no doubt, and I am not one to tell people they can't use a "drug" as peaceful as the kindbud! Most people do not realize that it is not that bad, and the damn tv comercials with that guy saying his brother as killed by a person who smoked it is so full of crap. Spread the good word!

-Tenacious[

]

shadowatcher · August 16, 2003, 20:39:00

Actually, Canada is about to legalize Marijauna. Canada is only holding back its legalization because the US is pressuring them. In Canada, you cant be charged unless you have more than 2grams with you. Once, my friend got caught with about 200grams of marijauna in his basement, and the police officer pretended not to notice.

Tenacious · August 16, 2003, 20:48:52

HAHA!!! I wish the cops here were like that. But what can I say? small town, nothing to do...go get some teenaged punk with weed...smoke it if you got it [^]

-Tenacious[

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shadowatcher · August 16, 2003, 20:59:16

In fact, I have never smoked marijauna myself, being only the tender age of 13, and still living with my parents.

Tenacious · August 16, 2003, 21:03:57

Well you have plenty of time to grow up [

] My brother smokes it fairly often. When ever I go to his house or to a Phish concert I smoke, so I have only smoke maybe 6 times at most, but I didn't inhale! LOL ok I'm not Mr. Clinton. [

] But any ways, it is opinions that matter.

oh BTW- I'm 20 and I live with my parents, no better way to get through college!

-Ten.

shadowatcher · August 16, 2003, 21:07:29

Yeah, I live in a really preppy town. Youd think that would mean LESS potheads, but the town is really rich, so there are actually tons more! potheads here, because everyone can afford it. Everyone who wants it can have it!

shadowatcher · August 16, 2003, 23:21:13

Yeah, heavy use of ANY drug is ill advised. Marijauna is actually LESS dangerous than sugar.

Alezunde · August 17, 2003, 02:08:13

Indeed, an interesting read.

While I've nevr had the chance to smoke pot myself, I don't see what the problem is with it, as long as someone doesn't try to drive a car or anything right after.

And, I'm not sure about this, but I think Marijuana is legal in the US for medical purposes - eg: prescription use.

Also - and I don't know how true this is - but I've heard that any leafy planet, when smoked, can cause cancer if done enough.

Thanx

-Alezunde

Lysear · August 17, 2003, 02:43:48

smoking splifs can move you on to cigarettes.

Rob · August 17, 2003, 08:48:51

Hey,

My brother is a medical student and says that its actually a bit of a myth that dope cant kill. I think it causes fibrilations (irregular flutter) of the heart and can lead to heart attacks, or something, so that the cause of death is misdiagnosed. But I'm sure its not very many people.

Once when I was stoned I blacked out, my whole body went stiff and tense, legs and arms went rigid and thrust out straight, eyes rolled back in my skull, jaw clamped etc. Like a white out but not exactly....pleasant. Oddly I went direct into a low energy dream, and came out of it a couple of minutes later by which point my mate was really worried. But that was when I was going through my excessive period - which was fun, but it screwed me up in some terrible ways and I'm still trying to put myself back together. Though I am a very sensetive person, no doubt this had something to do with it.

But hey, had some of the best times of my life high so......

peace
Rob

beavis · August 17, 2003, 09:43:21

This picture is just comedy. Its message is full of crap. On average (my friend[

])'s grades have increased since he started smoking it. He also has more OBEs and is better at other paranormal stuff. So lets roll up a blunt and blow it in a cops face.

Adrian · August 17, 2003, 10:56:30

Greetings everyone,

The tendency in Europe is to de-criminalise cannabis and its derivatives. It is still technically an offense to be in possession, but there are no serious consequences beyond a warning just to keep in line with the law. It is also being legalised for medicinal purposes.

In Holland it is more or less legal, and people smoke it everywhere, even in public. It can be purchased openly in places called "coffee shops" even though they don't actually sell coffee [

] In Holland there have been no negative consequences at all.

I am not a user of cannabis or any other mind altering substance, but I do think it is completely absurd that tobacco and alcohol are both sold openly in supermarkets when they are much more dangerous drugs than cannabis, and cost the health services so much while cannabis remains illegal, even criminal.

With best regards,

Adrian.

singularity · December 24, 2003, 08:28:41

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A25964-2003Dec23.html

Oh the gagging hypocrisy! The Cana-bitches are taking the astounding progressive leap to decriminalizing possession of up to 15 grams of weed (with stiff fines for any civil offender). To offset the political outcry, including alarmed blustering from the Bush administration, they propose to jack up the criminal penalties for production and distribution, while the US threatens a border crackdown.

Why the furor? "Marihuana" is not harmless, you see. Its biggest, most obvious health risk is respiratory damage. So we must fight the growing, multibillion dollar Canadian industry of producing much stronger and "more dangerous" varieties. The kind you - uhh - don't have to smoke as much of.

Great. After a month with nothing but moldy-smelling ditch weed, I finally get hold of some really nice nugs, but who can afford them these days? I guess the official gummint position is to keep the quality down, so that any kind of regular use is as damaging as possible to our health.

TheSeeker · December 24, 2003, 08:41:44

They should legalize it, but being an ex-pothead, its not good to smoke everyday, it kills any motivation to do anything with your life.

Aries · December 24, 2003, 08:55:05

I lived in Alaska most of my life and they are the closest place in the US to have it legalized. We smoke it in public and no one says anything. Its actually legal to have small personal ammounts on you as long as you do it in your house. And growing more then 3 plants is just a misdermeaner.
Alaska has been trying to get it legalized for awhile now.. and they are pretty close.
I smoke weed every day. And being raised in alaska I started at the right bold age of 9 years old.
Im not retarded and I dont have any respiratory problems, although I did have short term memory problems at one point but it is fine now.
I would like to say that smoking weed for the most part is harmless. The only down side is the munchies [

]
-Aries

singularity · December 24, 2003, 11:25:13

quote:
Originally posted by Aries

I lived in Alaska most of my life and they are the closest place in the US to have it legalized. We smoke it in public and no one says anything. Its actually legal to have small personal ammounts on you as long as you do it in your house. And growing more then 3 plants is just a misdermeaner.
Alaska has been trying to get it legalized for awhile now.. and they are pretty close.
I smoke weed every day. And being raised in alaska I started at the right bold age of 9 years old.
Im not retarded and I dont have any respiratory problems, although I did have short term memory problems at one point but it is fine now.
I would like to say that smoking weed for the most part is harmless. The only down side is the munchies []
-Aries

I say thank God for weed (so to speak). I disagree with the "no motivation" comment. At least for me, pot may make me a little lazy sometimes, but it also helps me organize my thoughts, find my real priorities, make decisions and take positive action.

I was trying to explain to my shrink the other day why I value cannabis and don't have any desire to give it up; the amazing way it boosts my creativity, facilitates higher thought processes, gives me access to insights, and aids long-term memory and visualization. I told him that it does more to break through my chronic depression than any of the expensive brain drugs he's tried on me over the years (during most of which time I was "clean and sober"). I might as well have been talking to a brick wall, you know how it is.

One of the anti-drug propaganda commercials really bugs me, where the kid turns in a paper and it's all written in stoner/slacker lingo, and the v/o says "Pot. It doesn't make you think better. It only makes you think you think better."

I test about as well on intelligent tests high as I do straight. I don't doubt that there are studies out there which show otherwise for the general population, but if people don't test as well stoned I don't think it's because they're stupid. It's just hard to concentrate on written problems when your mind is in high gear.

On the contrary, I find that weed can release powerful bursts of creative intelligence. This has not and may never be proven in the current social environment, because (a) such things are very difficult, if not impossible, to quantify and test for, and (b) no funding is available for such research.

Anonymous · December 24, 2003, 21:00:43

As with any drug, cannabis affects everyone differently. I think it has more to do with the chemical balance in your brain and possibly in the rest of your body, i.e. your hormones. Some people may experience more damage to their health than others. I actually did a research paper on cannabis and how it affects our legal system. Most of the sources I found implied or suggested that it should be legalized for the benefit of the public. But once again, it all comes down to money with the government.

When people tell me not to smoke it, it makes me want to do it more, especially when they listen to the stuff on TV and also tell me not to solely because it is illegal. Everyone breaks the law at one point in their lives. It can't be helped if you aren't a rich, white male who is a member of the more extreme republican party. Even then it's probably tough.

I have decided to give up smoking it, because I do not feel like doing it anymore and I also want to get all toxins out of my body. Once I am out of college, I'll probably go straight-edge.

singularity · December 24, 2003, 21:31:33

quote:
Originally posted by EnderWiggin

Once I am out of college, I'll probably go straight-edge.

That's what I did and didn't do it again for 20 years. Probably a good idea when you're trying to buckle down and get a career etc. going. Still, looking back, I think it would have done me good to indulge a little from time to time. It would have been a better decision for me if I'd kept the reefer and sworn off alcohol, which is where I'm at today.

holy reality · January 02, 2004, 18:28:51

quote:
And, I'm not sure about this, but I think Marijuana is legal in the US for medical purposes - eg: prescription use.

An effective, safe, natural form of medicine, LEGAL, in the US?

Yeah right.

It's legal in a few states.... mine (OK) tried to decrminalize it and it PASSED THE SENATE ... but... the house shot it down..

I'm not sure what that means though... not sure at all.. when I had to go to court for a traffic violation all they seemed to do was fine repeat offenders.... so.. maybe that town is lax... or maybe the state is lax... but supposedly the law dictates that you can go to jail on a first posession offense, yet... I remember looking it up back when I tried to do some and it said first offense was just a fine... so..

I don't know.

My facist parents made me flush it though (long story, involved them spying on my online activities to find out I was doing it....) I would have smoked it outside but I live so close to a police station and conservative neighbors....

So for some reason they got suspicious when they smelled some deodorant around my car (which was in the garage).

The bovine excrement they spouted at me was so close to those damn propoganda pot commercials too... but they at least agreed it was not that bad of a drug and not as bad as cigarettes... which they also forbid me to smoke.

(I'M AN ADULT)

They also didn't believe me when I said I was trying to expand my mind.

Assholes.

Everyone write your senators and reps about decriminalizing pot and legalizing it for medicinal purposes please... I urge you... I'm going to sometime soon... I mean.. I could get a prescription for it if it were legal in my state... I get muscle spasms quite a lot and seemingly chronic muscle pain.

shedt · January 02, 2004, 20:11:52

I quoted the original message too a video game forum that i vist. i wish they were more open-minded. oh well

http://forums.gamersmark.com/viewtopic.php?t=2341

beavis · January 03, 2004, 11:23:14

singularity I test about as well on intelligent tests high as I do straight.

I used to have 2 yahoo accounts I used for playing chess. One I would only use sober and the other was for intoxication of any kind. They were rated about the same skill. Since I also used alcohol on one account, probably the other thing made me play better than sober. I should have had a separate account for each kind of intoxication.

goku22 · January 03, 2004, 16:07:14

It's really easy to write the government, pretty much every representative out there has an e-mail address. Flood every single one of them with messages politely asking for immediate cannabis reform. I write a different person a couple of times a month. I don't know if they're even being read, but it makes me feel better at least. I find that smoking everyday is pretty awful after a while, but occasional indulgence is wonderful. Everybody should try it at least once. Ben

Impunity · January 03, 2004, 16:46:09

I've taken about 5 IQ tests throughout my life, the last one I took I took blown out of my mind and scored 4 points over my normal average. So what does this make me think? It makes me think the government is full of crap and I shouldn't listen to anything they say. AHAHAH Their propoganda backfires!

-Impunity

-Only respect the laws of the universe, most everything else has been corrupted.

The AlphaOmega · January 04, 2004, 04:56:33

I thought this forum pertained to astral chat!

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