Area 51 and other assumed mysterious areas and our own manifestations

[Fourthdimension]

Hi guys long time no speak , sorry just been a little busy.

Anyways ,I recently downloaded google earth and had a mess around with it and i guess like you guys i am curious and checked out places like area 51 etc.

Firstly am not asking whats at area 51 or anyother crazy place . I am just saying suppose that area 51 is only a weapons testing ground and we all believe that its some mysterious place. Well since our thoughts can manifest in such cases as hollow heavens and hells and in our everyday life but in the astral they manifest quicker so do you thinnk that if we astral projected to such places like area 51 that we would find things that believers manifest in there minds.

If you know what i mean. am not sure that i explained it too good so if not let me know and i ll explain more

take care

[Xanth]

You explained that perfectly actually. 
And yes, I totally concur.

[personalreality]

perhaps the mysteriousness of area 51 only exists in the astral.  like maybe the area 51 we all know as a secret base really exists as an astral realm populated by multidimensional-scientists (perhaps pure astral entities or even physical entities who can easily switch to astral awareness).

[Stillwater]

Firstly am not asking whats at area 51 or anyother crazy place . I am just saying suppose that area 51 is only a weapons testing ground and we all believe that its some mysterious place.

Well, area 51 probably is a weapons design and testing ground. That doesn't mean there isn't anything interesting about it. The U.S. black budget is massive; years ago it was 30 billion per year, and I can only assume it is well byond that now. Further assuming that money produces some sort of result, there are certain to be marvels of some sort or another in places like this, Dreamland, Los Alamos, etc.

And Do you really think the U.S. gov. will allow unapproved satellite images of their bases to be online? Nothing they don't want people to see will be visible.


But I think what you are asking is whether or not ideas people have about a place will create a mental world in the astral which it is possible for you or I to visit without ourselves creating it. I would be very tentative about answering a question like that. It first assumes that astral experiences occur in an objective, shared space, since otherwise you could not access the ideas of others in the astral, and that the real-time zone has a direct correspondence to the waking world, not one which is generated by personal intent.

I would say that I suspect that much (if not more than that) of what we experience in OBE is generated by personal expectations or memories. I think the first thing you would find in an area 51-type place is what you expect to be there. To see more than that would bring with it the assumption that this shared mental world which everyone can affect is accessible to us in real time zone experiences- that is the hinge concept I think.