I've been studying and researching health for quite a while. I have completely transformed my own health.
A few months ago, I was listening to an online seminar of David Wolfe, a raw foodist advocate. In this seminar, I learned about what I beleive is one of the greatest discoveries of our time.
Ormus is a catagory of minerals in an "M-state." I have a hard time describing it, but its a super conductor. It allows your body to communicate in ways that seem "paranormal." It may even help mammals grow back lost tissue.
Taking ormus not only syncronizes your left and right hemispheres, but activates Delta frequencies in an awake state. I think taking this substance helps with health, spiritual growth, and even karma.
Feeding it to plants inhances produce...
http://www.subtleenergies.com/ORMUS/tw/walnuts.htm
Again, I'm not very good at describing it. Here are some more links...
Basic overview
http://www.subtleenergies.com/ORMus/tw/overview.htm
Ormus and Consciousness...
http://members.aol.com/yggdras/paraphysics/BCarter.htm
You can make it yourself, with unrefined sea salt...
http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/ormus/ormus2.htm
UPDATE: The above method is a waste of time, USE THE METHOD BELOW...
Part one: Making ormus shaker - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg_4pUmGIU8
Part two: Extracting Ormus - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAnNQ3Vr1jg
When I take it, I become more conscious. I have rediculous amounts of energy.
Its just amazing, and I hope you get the privilege of exploring what I see as one of the greatest descoveries of our time...
Cavernstoy
WOW! im lost for words...
Did you make the ORMUS yourself?
Update: Here is a much easier way of extracting ormus...
Quote from: cavernstoy on December 06, 2007, 23:45:51
Here is a very simple and highly effective way of extracting ormus in three minutes...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg_4pUmGIU8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAnNQ3Vr1jg
I just did this, and the results actually exceeded the other more difficult "wet method".
Cavernstoy
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You don't actually
make ormus, sorry if that statement misled you. You actually extract it from ocean sea salt. You basically make ocean water with unrefined sea salt, change the PH, let the m-state settle to the bottom of the container, and take out the liquid above it.
Here are the simple directions...
Quote1. Start with drinkable water or clean sea water.
2. Slowly add a solution of lye mixed with water to raise the pH above 8.5 but no higher than 10.78.
3. A white fluffy precipitate will form which you should allow to settle overnight.
4. Remove the liquid above the precipitate.
5. Add more water and allow to settle over night.
6. Repeat steps 4 and 5 at least 3 times.
7. Repeat step 4
8. Boil the ormus for 5 minutes
(http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/ormus/ormus2.htm)
I would thoroughly read the obove link before you try it first.
Cavernstoy
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Yes I understand all that... I read everything about it that i could. I use the word "make" for simplicities sake.
So did you extract it yourself?
Can you describe ALL the effects you feel when you take it? Im extremely interested in it.
Yes, I extracted it myself. It turned out well.
My extract was even better than one I bought online.
The effects are hard to describe. Imagine ENERGIZED.
Imagine all the functions in your body flowing perfectly. When you move, you feel "water" flow in your body. Its really strange.
Imagine your mind expanding, and becoming more functional, lucid, and meditative.
Imagine drinking conscious energy!
When you take it, its like you can't get tired. You can sprint forever and you just won't stop, because the harder you try, the more you want try.
BETTER THAN STERIODS (ive never tried steriods)
There is no f#*$ing way I could ever describe it to you, but if you where to try it, you would learn to LOVE it dearly!
PS. Also, I believe that I have had more spontaneous Obe's because of ormus. My brother, who has never astral projected, had an obe the other night. He takes ormus as well.
From my experience, it creates syncronisities in your own life. I believe that it builds communication between your conscious and sub-conscious mind. I believe it releases physic energy, and even builds good karma.
But these words are are useless, because when you take this substance, everything just works out and there is nothing I can say that will build your understanding of this.
All I can do is motivate you to try it. Because when you do, you will understand everything perfectly well.
-more intelligent - more spontaneous - more creative - more free - more alive - more conscious - more lucid - healthier - better
Cavernstoy
Another thing is that you start noticing things that you never did before. I walked into a store the other day and realized, "wow, I never knew that sign was there! Wow, I never saw those lights! Holy crap I never noticed that stairway!"
You become aware of EVERYTHING that is happening in the room you are in, simultaneously. You become aware of everything, and your mind has the ability to process all this at once.
One scary thing about taking ormus is that you start to see things as they TRULY are; with way less filtration! You'll start to look around at the world we live in and realize things that you may not want to, like the fact that many people in our society act like "zombies", mabey even yourself! You will see problems in your life that you once overlooked, which is an extremely powerful way of living.
Realization: *Its time for change*
But this is okay because its better to see people as analytical robots, than to be one yourself. Its just part of breaking from this system of organized stupidity.
Cavernstoy
woahhhhhhhhhh. Im really keen on trying this now. Not to so keen on extracting it myself. What was the level of difficulty in extracting it?
I wonder what long term effects there are- if any. Sometimes things that sound too good to be true really are and I'd be carefull about putting something that promises the world in my body when there hasn't been enough study on it.
Quote from: Beneath_the_Roses on December 02, 2007, 15:46:19
I wonder what long term effects there are- if any. Sometimes things that sound too good to be true really are and I'd be carefull about putting something that promises the world in my body when there hasn't been enough study on it.
I watched a big presentation on ormus on youtube by barry carter the guy who runs subtleenergies website... I have to say it was very informing and I found a lot of good information in it along with some rather interesting anecdotes... such as one of his mates whos beard was grey, once he started taking ormus the colour in his beard fully returned after about 10 months... also a cat whos tail got cut off, grew the tail back by ingesting ormus. All sorts of cool excrement. Some of the m-state materials are also present in our brains already! So that was amazing to find out.
Quote from: Mez on December 01, 2007, 17:52:47
woahhhhhhhhhh. Im really keen on trying this now. Not to so keen on extracting it myself. What was the level of difficulty in extracting it?
Its actually pretty simple, using the wet method with sea water. The only necessity is a PH meter. I made my first ormus with PH paper, but its not the easiest thing to do. You might try it, but with the PH meter, its just as easy as making a recipe.
You could buy it online at this link http://www.kornax.com/Ormus_Monatomic_Gold.htm
or
If money is abundant,
http://www.sunfood.com/b2c/ecom/ecomEnduser/items/xt_itemSearchImgNF.aspx?currpage=1&searchby=undefined&lookfor=ormus&lookfor1=undefined&siteId=1&searchMethod=Contains
Personally, I prefer the free version...although I'm sure that Ormus Gold is much superior in quality and bio-availability...
Quote from: Mez on December 02, 2007, 23:41:53
[...] such as one of his mates whos beard was grey, once he started taking ormus the colour in his beard fully returned after about 10 months... also a cat whos tail got cut off, grew the tail back by ingesting ormus. All sorts of cool excrement. Some of the m-state materials are also present in our brains already! So that was amazing to find out.
yup, its absolutely amazing!
I haven't seen this entire video, but its interesting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96_8pmH8q2E&feature=related
Cavernstoy
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UPDATE:
Do not use the method above, use this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg_4pUmGIU8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAnNQ3Vr1jg
Here's the article about the cat's tail growing back...
www.subtleenergies.com/ORMus/tw/tutstail.htm
Quote from: Mez on December 02, 2007, 23:41:53
I watched a big presentation on ormus on youtube by barry carter the guy who runs subtleenergies website... I have to say it was very informing and I found a lot of good information in it along with some rather interesting anecdotes... such as one of his mates whos beard was grey, once he started taking ormus the colour in his beard fully returned after about 10 months... also a cat whos tail got cut off, grew the tail back by ingesting ormus. All sorts of cool excrement. Some of the m-state materials are also present in our brains already! So that was amazing to find out.
That's amazing...I'm going to look up that video. Thanks :)
Quote from: cavernstoy on December 03, 2007, 15:18:00
Here's the article about the cat's tail growing back...
www.subtleenergies.com/ORMus/tw/tutstail.htm
That cat is adorable!
yes, I figure if im going to extract some I will use the wet method. I guess its a little project for the future. What does anybody know about alchemy? Its been popping up a bit in my existence lately and its become of great interest in light of white gold ormus...
Here is a very simple and highly effective way of extracting ormus in three minutes...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg_4pUmGIU8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAnNQ3Vr1jg
I just did this, and the results actually exceeded the other more difficult "wet method".
Cavernstoy
I am very interested in this. I am gonna try this method:
http://www.youtube.com/v/9n7Qpk9wAqs&feature=related
I'm interesten in this too- the methods with the magnets look really simple, but hey, can anyone explain how exactly the magnets extract the ormus? IMHO this is just BS until someone proves it really works (so that it's not just placebo)-
Btw. where do you get the "magnetic strip"?
You can get them at hardware stores for like 3 dollars.
Quote from: Ra(hie) on December 08, 2007, 15:38:59
I am very interested in this. I am gonna try this method:
http://www.youtube.com/v/9n7Qpk9wAqs&feature=related
When you try this let me know, I am very interested in trying this "Ormus"
If you watch the first video link that I posted, it discusses the fact that ormus is repelled by magnets. The magnet is powerful enough to "mix up" the ormus into the grape seed oil and the salt equally, so that you can get more ormus than you would be able to drink salt.
Placebo? I think its unlikely. I added this "ormus-grape seed oil mixture" to my dogs food, and I think my oldest dog lost 2 years of age over night! It sure looks that way, and he shure acts that way. I forgot that he used to actually "come to me" when I called him. I forgot that he used to lift his ears when he was curious. I forgot that he used to stand up when I asked him to.
Cavernstoy
Ok, just a question, can I tape old harddisk magnets (NdFeB - really powerful) on the glass jar instead of the magnetic strip? Or does themagnetic field have to have certain orientation?
Hi Gallaxy Storm,
harddisk magnets are VERY powerfull. What you need for this extraction is a very WEAK magnet. For instance, a magnet you would pull of your refrigerator. Powerfull magnets such as "rare earth magnets" will push the ormus right out of the container.
Cavernstoy
That method is extremely simple! I will definately be giving this one a try... I suppose you could do it with all kinds of different liquids (for consumption) although some would be better than others (im guessing grapeseed oil would be the best seeing as its what they suggest?)
Quote from: cavernstoy on December 06, 2007, 23:45:51
Here is a very simple and highly effective way of extracting ormus in three minutes...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg_4pUmGIU8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAnNQ3Vr1jg
I just did this, and the results actually exceeded the other more difficult "wet method".
Cavernstoy
The results EXCEEDED the wet method of extraction? AWESOME! can you elaborate at all on that? please?
In the videos does one of them say that its an ancient "alchemical" technique?
Quote from: cavernstoy on December 10, 2007, 15:09:59
Hi Gallaxy Storm,
harddisk magnets are VERY powerfull. What you need for this extraction is a very WEAK magnet. For instance, a magnet you would pull of your refrigerator. Powerfull magnets such as "rare earth magnets" will push the ormus right out of the container.
Cavernstoy
How do you figure this would occur?
Principle, I am NO expert. But in a personal discussion about the wonders of Ormus I learned that Ormus can "bypass" matter. It can actually go through matter, it breaks the LAWS of nature.
Not a very scientific statement, but its all I can give you at this moment. I will find you some reliable sources later, but that will take more time than I am willing to give for now.
Mez, I can elaborate: With this new method, the Ormus produced is much more POTENT. I can drink the amount of Ormus found in a fourth of a cup of sea salt daily! The other m-state is just not as CONDENSED.
Also, because it is so easy, I can easily produce MASSIVE AMOUNTS. Its more officiant, safe, convenient; need I say more?
Cavernstoy
thank you :)
Today I made my ormus shaker and purchased some grapeseed oil, I will soon obtain some celtic sea salt and then I can begin.
Do you use the grapeseed oil and celtic sea salt mix? Do you ever use anything else? When you say you can "drink" the amount of ormus found in a cup of sea salt daily... what specifically are you drinking and in what quantity? Are you drinking the grapeseed oil ormus? Soz for so many questions but im very exact and curious in nature.
I cant wait to try it.
Quote from: Mez on December 11, 2007, 01:14:35
thank you :)
Today I made my ormus shaker and purchased some grapeseed oil, I will soon obtain some celtic sea salt and then I can begin.
Do you use the grapeseed oil and celtic sea salt mix? Do you ever use anything else?
Yes I use the grapeseed/celtic sea salt mixture for ormus. I also put magnets around everything that I drink. I have them around my blender when I make smoothies, and around my water as I make it "hexagonal." Oh, and I have some magnets around my shower head...
Quote from: Mez on December 11, 2007, 01:14:35
When you say you can "drink" the amount of ormus found in a cup of sea salt daily... what specifically are you drinking and in what quantity? Are you drinking the grapeseed oil ormus? Soz for so many questions but im very exact and curious in nature.
I cant wait to try it.
I drink the grapeseed oil ormus; a hell of a lot. 3-5 tablespoons daily. I just can't get enough!
Cavernstoy
Quote from: cavernstoy on December 10, 2007, 15:09:59
Hi Gallaxy Storm,
harddisk magnets are VERY powerfull. What you need for this extraction is a very WEAK magnet. For instance, a magnet you would pull of your refrigerator. Powerfull magnets such as "rare earth magnets" will push the ormus right out of the container.
Cavernstoy
So is taping a few fridge magnets around the jar enough and does their orientation matter?
Will normal sea salt work?
And finally, how long do I have to shake it? :-)
Sorry for all these questions but I just have to know exactly how to do something before I start doing it... :wink:
THANK YOU! thats the info i needed.
what do you mean you make the water hexagonal?
lately i've taken to shaking everything i drink in my ormus shaker.
What do you mean by normal sea salt? Make shure its not refined. Celtic works excelently. Make shure that it is a "grayish color".
I would shake it for at least 2-5 minutes, but I think the longer you do the better. After five minutes though, I doubt any extra work will make a difference. You might experiment with that.
Mez, Hexagonal water is STRUCTURIZED water. The particals are formed into HEXAGONS. The benefits are endless...
http://www.brunnerbiz.com/thebestwater/
-if you are interested in hexagonal water, you might purchase the Vitalizer Plus. It structures water, but its expensive.
Cavernstoy
Thats very interesting. I'll give it a shot sometime. If all goes well I'm sure it will be amazeing. :-D
Well, I just saw like four of the videos so I decided to give it a try. Although I'm not a big fan of spending money on stuff that other people say will 'enlighten' (or whatever) me, I had the magnetic strips (lots of them, there was a time when everybody was advertising everything on those things) and I made myself a handy-dandy ormus shaker. One thing I noticed is I put regular water on it and after ormus-izing it it tasted almost like hydrogen peroxide! Yuck! But I'm offering myself as a guinea pig and if I survive I'll give the rest of my family some ormus water or ormus smoothies the next time we make smoothies.
QuoteI drink the grapeseed oil ormus; a hell of a lot. 3-5 tablespoons daily. I just can't get enough!
:-o You're a better man than me (I'm a woman, btw) :lol:
Something I didn't quite get: (Still have to go to the website, lol ): Who decided what has more ormus?
ps. To the person who asked about the orientation of the magnets: You always put them in such a way as they repel each other, that way the water (or solution) has to go through repelling polarities in their shake or circulation. That way the ormus is somehow taken out of the element that contained it and 'frees it' so you can 'absorb' it. If you make the polarities the same the whole way, then the magnetic field will be added or made stronger, and you don't want that. That's why in the video with the little hose aereator thing he has the guy put the magnets so they repel each other (making them float). It's the same idea with the whole thing. But they did say experiment- after all, when you shake it the water or solution will go more than one way. Have a good time with it!
QuoteOne thing I noticed is I put regular water on it and after ormus-izing it it tasted almost like hydrogen peroxide! Yuck!
I would use oil if I were you, instead of water. You are supposed to let the salt "settle" to the bottom half of the container. You don't ingest the salt, there is too much sodium. If you don't want to buy grape seed oil, try olive oil.
QuoteYou're a better man than me (I'm a woman, btw)
Actually, the ormus-grape seed oil tastes awesome; Try it!
Cavernstoy
Quote from: cavernstoy on December 12, 2007, 13:35:33
What do you mean by normal sea salt? Make shure its not refined. Celtic works excelently. Make shure that it is a "grayish color".
I mean that here I can't get "celtic" sea salt. So will just any sea salt work?
And what about the magnets, can I use fridge magnets (the little black circular ones)?
I'm pretty any sea salt, although I think celtic sea salt is healthy or something... like more nutrients?
I've heard fridge magnets work.
If its not refined, it should say a list of trace minerals on the back. What color is it?
Cavernstoy
Do you think this will work? :-D http://www.fileden.com/files/29702/ormusshaker.jpg
(the magnets are alternated N-S-N-S... so that each two adjacent ones attract)
Quote from: cavernstoy on December 12, 2007, 20:59:22
I would use oil if I were you, instead of water. You are supposed to let the salt "settle" to the bottom half of the container. You don't ingest the salt, there is too much sodium. If you don't want to buy grape seed oil, try olive oil.Actually, the ormus-grape seed oil tastes awesome; Try it!
Cavernstoy
The website I visited said ormus is in the air, so running ormused-air through water should give me some, which is why I went with the conservative approach. When it's time to make salad dressing the oil-salt combo sounds good. ATM I have an all-purpose shaker I'm using for whatever I'm going to drink.
Baby steps. :lol:
Quote from: galaxy_storm on December 13, 2007, 11:40:04
Do you think this will work? :-D http://www.fileden.com/files/29702/ormusshaker.jpg
I've shaked water and some juice in it, I didn't notice any difference. So I guess it doesn't work :|
It looks like those magnets are too powerfull
Cavernstoy
Try using less of them, or just buy some cheap magnets that are weak?
If you don't have grape seed oil, try cold pressed-extra virgin olive oil. It does not have as much ormus as grape seed oil, but you should still get results.
Cavernstoy
Quote from: cavernstoy on December 15, 2007, 06:11:30
If you don't have grape seed oil, try cold pressed-extra virgin olive oil. It does not have as much ormus as grape seed oil, but you should still get results.
Cavernstoy
So who decided (or what is the basis for) what has more ormus? I tried to go into the website but didn't get any other info.
BTW, my ormus water is doing just fine; I feel I have more energy. But it's soon, so it could be placebo.
I tried the grapeseed oil ormus mix twice with no results. Not too encouraging but at some point im going to order PURE white gold ormus (not the weak stuff suspended in a liquid) because I believe THAT is where the REAL power lies.
maybe im doing something wrong?
Mary Jane!!!!!! What about using chopped up mary jane instead of celtic sea salt?? eh??
cavernstoy, you seem to be the master on this..
What is your opinion on the matter.??
Ha, hey riddled_skies
I was thinking about this the other day...Ha
Be the first one to try it and let me know of your results!
My instincts tell me MJ has high amounts of ormus.
The only way to find out is to try it out
Cavernstoy
Mez,
I'm sorry that you haven't found results. I don't want to let you down, but maybe ormus is just one of those things that some people notice greatly, and others don't. It really depends how "attuned" you are to your body. I've been in this possition before. And its hard to notice shifts in consciousness.
It can be compared to when some people smoke MJ and don't notice any effects.
Mabey you are looking for the wrong things.
Take it for a week, and pay CLOSE attention to how you feel.
Stop for a week, and see if you notice any downgrade.
Are you happier when you take it? There should be a definite boast in ability and quality of life.
Lets hope that you have more noticeable effects with ormus gold.
Good luck, and keep trying
Cavernstoy
i'd say the effects with pure white gold ormus would be what im looking for :P
If ormus makes a tighter connection between mind and body, would it compound negative thoughts on the body?
If a person is in a "negative" place and wants to take ormus to make them more "spiritual", could it have the opposite effect and actually worsen their condition?
QuoteIf the ORMUS elements are a medium of communication between mind and spirit they would bring us back the echo of whatever we are thinking about ourselves.
Found here: http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/faq.htm#1.5
Yes, it certainly would. Ormus increases your manifesting power... I read an interesting anecdote about a guy who took too much pure white gold ormus and his manifesting power increased soo much it practically ruined his life for 6 months. If he was driving a car and he thought about having an accident a car would suddenly come out of nowhere and almost hit him.
I want me some of that!
Quote from: Mez on December 18, 2007, 23:57:54
Yes, it certainly would. Ormus increases your manifesting power... I read an interesting anecdote about a guy who took too much pure white gold ormus and his manifesting power increased soo much it practically ruined his life for 6 months. If he was driving a car and he thought about having an accident a car would suddenly come out of nowhere and almost hit him.
I want me some of that!
Hah, then you would need to keep negative thoughts completely out of your head for 6mos,
which is hard enough doing even for minutes at a time, negative thoughts are just random sometimes.
Quote from: Principle on December 19, 2007, 00:02:36
Hah, then you would need to keep negative thoughts completely out of your head for 6mos,
which is hard enough doing even for minutes at a time, negative thoughts are just random sometimes.
Ormus makes all your spiritual "faults" come to your attention. If you don't heal, you won't be completely comfortable.
At first, all the negetivity, fear, and depression in my body became really obvious to me. It was a powerfull tool, because it forced me to heal.
Cavernstoy
Then it's probably not for someone with a history of depression, anger, or other mental and emotional disorders. People who aren't happy with their spiritual life might want it to make them happier and in turn make their lives more tumultuous. There are no quick fixes. Tools maybe, but "fixing" you have to do on your own, as Cavernstoy mentioned.
http://www.asc-alchemy.com/mono.html
That website has a treasure trove of information about various ormus products... also if you read the text under the headline "reasons for not taking m-state white gold in powder form" it tells you the anecdote i was talking about. I find this site to be very straightfoward and unbiased.
Quote from: Stookie on December 19, 2007, 12:11:05
Then it's probably not for someone with a history of depression, anger, or other mental and emotional disorders.
I have a history of depression, anger, and extreme anxiety. Ormus let me see my problems from an external view point. It allowed me to breath the concept "Why in the world do I do this to my self?" The first logical statement I have ever thought concerning myself.
In the short term, ormus might FREAK you out by "blowing up" the perception of you problems. In the long term: healing
If you don't want to heal, then don't take ormus!
I used to have extreme anxiety myself, but I was able to overcome it without drugs. I'm talking about things like diagnosed bipolar disorder. For some people it's a cycle they've carried their whole life and it's not as simple as recognizing it. A person like that can't just say, "Oh, before I didn't get it, now I do" and it's over - it's a cycle.
Sounds like a risk for people like this. I'm not trying to knock the stuff, just give fair warning to people reading this thread. I'd hate for someone's life to enter turmoil because of an internet thread.
If you are hiding away from reality and living in delusions, ormus will help you correct your perception. So if something invisible is tearing you apart, a bright light will shine on the foreign invasion.
Ormus will not make you more angry, anxious, or depressed. It will allow you to locate problems that are leading to dysfunctional living; aka suffering. The suffering that is flowing into you, spilling into those who surround you, and building up at full force to come back at you yet again. It will help you break the current of the slimy downward spiral.
Ormus may give you enough conscious energy to save yourself from being swallowed by Yourself.
Awareness is a light. Obliviousness is a disease.
You can fight your problems in darkness, or in light. Your subconscious mind is your friend. Ormus is a connection between you and them.
Cavernstoy
Stookie, I don't want to make outrageous claims, but maybe ormus could heal someone with bipolar disorder.
Ormus is not like a drug. Its not even like a herb. It is a substance that is in every LIVING food. Everytime you take a bight out of fruit or vegetables, you get some amount of ormus. The reason this extraction is such a big deal is because ormus has declined over the past thousands of years. (I think 10% or more of the world is made of ormus.)
You may only get 10% of the ormus that you need. You can get 1000% of the ormus you need.
Cavernstoy