Frank's K and Robert Monroe???

[the8reader]

ok so I'm sitting here at work and have more then enough time to think. way to much time. Anyways I'm a lil down right now. just to let steam off for right now i wanted to say, thank you to all on here that have helped me with aping obe ect..  i am glad i have a place that i can go to were its just not me having the ability to do this kind of thing.

I thought i was crazy for the longest time.. its funny i have been doing this for some time now. a long time really. in my research and before i found this site, i have never heard of these guys... to put in nut shell, if we are a group or a religious group. either way are these two our founder?? who taught them this stuff and who did they go to?? just a thought. for obvious reason we are not a religion. but then again we are a group with the same beliefs with diff religions and some with none at all. that doesn't really matter. but for the sake of argument.. would they be our founder? has anyone on here met them?

i guess the one thing i have done right in this world is learning this ability that i am far from being a pro at. one thing i hate about this whole thing is, I cant tell normal people about this stuff. They think i am crazy. that is what makes me crazy haha. I have so many kids here that would benefit from doing this kind of thing. But once again its very hard to bring up and get them to know that it will help. Not sure were i am going with this. Guess just writing thoughts as they come. i have seen things and met people of not this world. I still ask myself "how do i know they are real"? i have gotten great information, info that i could not have got by doing everyday life. Is that one way to know that it is real?

I know that a lot of people on here say if you experience it and exp was learned then it was real. This brings me to another question. Do we use more of our brains when we are out? It could all be in our heads and if this is true some of this stuff would take more brain power. Have they done studies on brain activity when someone obe's? I mean some of the stuff I have brought back is incredible.

to explain a bit more, yes I have done a lot of fighting as most of you know. It seems to not change and I have tried to not do it as much.  This seems to make it happen more. So with fighting or whatever I have noticed that my reflexes and reading things has become enhanced. When I say reading I mean , knowing what someone is going to do before they do it. Pool is a great ex... when I play pool against someone I seem to know what is going to make them fail, But only recently. So on to the reflexes. They have been a bit unnatural lately. It is easy for me to catch fly's out of the air. As one example, among many.

Another thing I have brought back is the ability to have vast amounts of information to help people in there everyday problems. This has just started as well. Reading people helps in this too. Idk its just been some things I have been thinking about. Only bad thing is I cant seem to give myself or fallow my own instructions on how to make mine better. O well I guess.

So onto another question. Has this happened to anyone else? Does anyone know if frank or Monroe have done this too. I think that is all. Sorry for this being so long. To much time as I said. Thanx in advance for reading and lending an ear..

[Xanth]

Robert Monroe... for information on him you should read his books. 

As for Frank, he read Roberts first book 25+ years ago... and then set off on a journey to reproduce and verify his work.  That's all.

Astral Projection *IS NOT* a religion... and nobody is the founder.  LOL

[Astr4l]

Ryan you should write a book you have a lot of knowledge your self . I'm sure people on this forum would support you

[Stookie_]

There are more than enough books out there... we need more people encouraged to do it, not read about it.

[Volgerle]

I read a book and actually WAS encouraged to do it and succeded. So I absolutely would recommend to everyone to read some books about it.

The Monroe books are good because they are interesting and they explain well what lead to the things the TMI does today. However, I would never recommend Monroe as the first OBE book. My first was William Buhlman's first book, and it was the best I could have done (as I learnt afterwards). I also recommend to read Robert Bruce (AD) as the second book. Then the Monroe books, but just 'for pleasure', as it is highly interesting for sure. I'd also recommend Kurt Leland's newest book.

[Stookie_]

Yes, you're absolutely right, you have to have information. To clarify, I feel there is more than enough information out there already to get people going, and a lot of unnecessary products and information being sold. Anyone should be able to eventually AP using just a few simple tips. It seems that sometimes people get caught up in the information more so than actual practice. The only way to gain experience is to just do it.