Did anyone try to win this lottery thing by astral projecting and getting the numbers :-D
Yeah I got the numbers but I am not telling anyone. :evil:
I'm in Canada, but I think I'm gonna at least try to buy a ticket. Apparently, living in the US isn't required in order to play.
But no, I don't plan on projecting to learn the numbers. LoL
I actually read about someone that got the winning numbers through AP, but said beforehand that they wouldn't use it to buy a ticket and they actually got the right numbers. Apparently your higher self doesn't give that kind of info for ego purposes. Though I suppose that one could in good conscious get the numbers and if they have nothing but good in their intentions get the numbers and use it to spread the word that astral projection is practical would be able to get the numbers. It could certainly be used to help bring people into a more spiritual.
Quote from: PlasmaAstralProjection on January 11, 2016, 01:18:47
get the numbers and use it to spread the word that astral projection is practical would be able to get the numbers.
More likely will get kidnapped by some psycho who will demand the next numbers, or kidnapped by the gov to use for spying. LOL
People don't understand that it is very very hard to obtain accurate information through AP for our specific line of reality and probability.
Quote from: LightBeam on January 11, 2016, 02:03:44
More likely will get kidnapped by some psycho who will demand the next numbers, or kidnapped by the gov to use for spying. LOL
People don't understand that it is very very hard to obtain accurate information through AP for our specific line of reality and probability.
Pfff sounds like conspiracy theories. Though I admit that getting reliable info such as lottery numbers is hard.
the higher self barriers are belief barriers and are valid only if you believe them.
People use remote veiwing techniques to win lotteries and such. It's hard to sequence that many numbers most play select 3 or 4 which have small jackpots that go unnoticed by the government. Most people work with the stock market instead since it's less risky and no psychic is 100% accurate regardless of method including AP
The basic techniques can be found here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObeI82f5OmI
There are a couple remote viewing type groups that are dedicated to this type of work here
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http://www.appliedprecog.com/
http://arv4fun.com/arv4fun/?p=8813
I'm working with the first site to learn some new techniques. I just started so I can 't say much about it yet.
Quote from: PlasmaAstralProjection on January 11, 2016, 01:18:47
I actually read about someone that got the winning numbers through AP, but said beforehand that they wouldn't use it to buy a ticket and they actually got the right numbers. Apparently your higher self doesn't give that kind of info for ego purposes. Though I suppose that one could in good conscious get the numbers and if they have nothing but good in their intentions get the numbers and use it to spread the word that astral projection is practical would be able to get the numbers. It could certainly be used to help bring people into a more spiritual.
Tom Campbell had shared stories like this.
He used to say that he would project to get the numbers... any set of numbers that he received and DID NOT play ended up winning. Any set of numbers that he received and DID play, ended up NOT winning.
The claim here is that your subconscious won't allow you to skirt the system and it knows the difference between you wanting to "just see" the numbers and wanting to use the numbers you see for your own personal gain.
Intent.
Quote from: Xanth on January 11, 2016, 12:19:53
Tom Campbell had shared stories like this.
He used to say that he would project to get the numbers... any set of numbers that he received and DID NOT play ended up winning. Any set of numbers that he received and DID play, ended up NOT winning.
The claim here is that your subconscious won't allow you to skirt the system and it knows the difference between you wanting to "just see" the numbers and wanting to use the numbers you see for your own personal gain.
Intent.
Hum I didn't know that that happened with Tom. I read about that aforementioned lottery experience with a women.
Looking into those sites now !!!!
I was thinking about the system generating an obstacle theory presented by Tom Campbell. I have one possible explanation for that. The system is yourself. You are the system the system is you. The two cannot be separated. The winning of the lottery represents an experience, however, it is not the only way to have that experience. What are the componants of that experience? Well having a nice place to live, food you like to eat, doing things you like to do, and not having obstacles to those experiences. Well Tom has everything he needs his house a family. It may be that he's not really motivated to have more of that experience because he can obtain the experience he wants without the hassle that comes with winning a lottery.
There are aspects of getting that experience by winning a lottery that are highly unpleasant. The governmennt comes after the money. People come after you for money and there are other things as well. I think the individual who has the ability to generate the experience of wealth may possibly not have an interest in doing it that way. I looked at it for myself and thats the last thing I would want. I have everything I want. I can do whatever I want and really don't have to deal with any obstacles. I work at my job because I like nursing I work the hours I want to work.
I would not enjoy the attention that winning a lotter would bring and it would not add anything to my life that I cannot get some other way that doesn't cause headaches.
I never buy tickets unless someone is doing a 50-50 fundraiser that I want to support. I do it to help out a friend not because I want the money. So I think the motivation that comes at the level that it takes to do the psychic perceptions is not really geared towards winning a lottery.
It takes time and practice to teach the subconscious how to read it does not matter what method you are using and it includes astral proejction.. Think of what it takes to teach a child to read. It takes about 4 years to teach a young child to read well. They have to practice 6 hours a day almost every day. This is the kind of practice it would take to do this with the psychic ability. It's tedious work. It's been done with children, but basically it's like learning to read all over again. Some children learn more quickly than others. ... the variations are the same from what I can tell. So being willing to put in 5 years of hard work to learn to read a few numbers and you can generate the experience with less headache in other ways .. it would be difficult to be motivated enough to do it.
Quote from: Bluefirephoenix on January 12, 2016, 10:29:37
I was thinking about the system generating an obstacle theory presented by Tom Campbell. I have one possible explanation for that. The system is yourself.
I absolutely agree with that. These type of things are where Tom misses the target. His own guilt that he would "cheat" creates the obstacles he experiences. That does not mean someone else wouldn't succeed.
Quote from: LightBeam on January 12, 2016, 12:57:58
I absolutely agree with that. These type of things are where Tom misses the target. His own guilt that he would "cheat" creates the obstacles he experiences. That does not mean someone else wouldn't succeed.
There's a distinct possibility in that.
That then begs the question is there ANYONE out there who has claimed to have won a large sum of money using numbers they divined in some manner? That'd be something neat to look into really.
I checked into the APP project. This a project that actually works and keeps statistics on success vs failure on psychic work involving. precognition. They use mostly sporting events ( because they're numerous and it's easy to get information for feedback)
I had a meeting yesterday with the owner of the site and I was very impressed with the work they are doing. Marty is a retired physicist and in fact reminds me a great deal of Tom Campbell. There are quite a few people just interested in learning precognition and ARV which is a more recent offshoot of controlled remote viewing. He works in a very methodical manner in research and development of psychic precognition. Everything is very easy to follow and user friendly.
At $50 its by far the best bargin in the CRV market. They have several operational groups that are very active and I planning on doing two.
Gambling is optional. The highest prize that has been claimed by the participants I think they was was around 100k I don't know specifics. The projects are geared more towards long term investing with high returns than big jackpots.
The only thing I can suggest is to get involved and see what you come up with. I don't think you need CRV training to do that. There is a group that uses non CRV methods.AP/Phasing would certainly be a viable method.
This is the website http://www.appliedprecog.com/
Quote from: Xanth on January 12, 2016, 15:28:32
There's a distinct possibility in that.
That then begs the question is there ANYONE out there who has claimed to have won a large sum of money using numbers they divined in some manner? That'd be something neat to look into really.
Well, if I have won or ever win, I am not telling anyone that I saw the numbers beforehand during AP. And that is for many many reasons. So, I think a lot of people who have done it will take the same approach as me and you wont hear much about it.
I have no guilt that I will be cheating. If someone has certain abilities, why not use them. I for example will be so excited to be able to help so many needy people with a big chunk of the money. I feel no guilt winning that way what so ever.
Quote from: LightBeam on January 14, 2016, 01:36:34
I have no guilt that I will be cheating. If someone has certain abilities, why not use them. I for example will be so excited to be able to help so many needy people with a big chunk of the money. I feel no guilt winning that way what so ever.
But that's the thing... consciously, no, I seriously doubt you would have any guilt over it. I know for a FACT I wouldn't. :)
That doesn't mean our subconscious/higher self/etc would feel the same way. Just sayin...
Spiritual growth isn't always reflected in the conscious decisions we make.
Anyway, I'm obviously not saying that's how it is... it's just a different perspective on the possibilities. Lots of possibilities these days. :)
Out of the entire infinite expanse of universal experience, it says a lot about life on this planet that we would think to exercise our magical talent to gain arbitrary numbers in some cloud based computer program based on imaginary currency that holds no value other than that which we, on Earth, attribute to it. The universe laughs at us.
Also, I would demand my winnings in gold bars.