Projecting to a Black Hole

no_leaf_clover · August 04, 2003, 16:41:51

"An Astral Body is pure light ..not mass.

Light cannot get passed a mirror, but an astralbody can."

I don't see how pure light can have any other properties than being.. light. When you go astral, you're just a point of consciousness. Your astral 'body' is a product of your own thinking (your subconscious), as is described in Robert Bruce's Astral Dynamics. So, if your astral body was to be destroyed in a black hole, your subconscious mind would have to be destroyed, disabled, etc., as well, and your physical mind would be light years away, making it extremely difficult for that black hole to destroy your astral body.

Unlike your physical body, which uses physical parts to interpret a physical world, you experience the astral through your point of consciousness rather than your astral body itself. Your astral body, from what I understand from Astral Dynamics, is just like a representation of that point of consciousness and doesn't really serve much of a purpose other than letting people know you're there.

Black holes are harmless in realms higher than this one.

Monsolith · August 05, 2003, 06:30:26

I just have one question for no_cleaf_clover : how are you doing ?

You were supposed to be in some kind of coma after having projected through a BH, from a friend of yours' post.

Tab · August 05, 2003, 06:47:23

lol, that was a joke

Quiet_Storm · August 05, 2003, 07:48:32

dammit so no one has projected yet into a black hole!?

I dont really care about the facts of it and al this debate I just want to see if one can travel through and still come back to the physical body and live to tell about their experiences.

Faceless · August 05, 2003, 08:22:44

My opinion is a BH can't harm your astral body in any way.

LogoRat · August 05, 2003, 09:18:28

I dont care if something strange happends when i get there!
If i get pulled into a dimension i cannot get out of for the next 300 years..i dont care!

If i cant get back to my physical body...who gives a excrement

Atlast i can be out for a long time.

Im not afraid of that huge black magnet!
Ill equip myself with a lightsaber when i get there, so i can play with light in it.

Faceless · August 05, 2003, 09:22:20

Well let me know what happens... when are you gonna try?

beavis · August 05, 2003, 09:59:20

LogoRat "If i get pulled into a dimension i cannot get out of for the next 300 years..i dont care!"

You have some balls man. What if all they do in that dimension is gay sex! I'll go into the black hole sometime because I dont think I'll get stuck. I got stuck on earth, but thats because I choose to remain here.

Faceless · August 05, 2003, 10:07:28

I'd volunteer for the job but I wouldn't have a clue which direction to fly in to get to one... besides I can't AP yet

beavis · August 05, 2003, 10:23:02

pmlonline "The higher in vibration light gets the more it can penetrate matter. Example, X-Rays can penetrate matter, but Gamma Rays can penetrate matter even higher than X-Rays. Gamma rays are higher vibration than X-Rays. Also the same is true for the other end of the spectrum. Radio waves can penetrate matter farther than Microwaves. Radio waves have a lower vibration than Microwaves.
So then does gravity pull on Gamma Rays less than say infrared?"

Light usually moves at a 45 degree angle between space and time (or whatever is in the middle if there is a total degrees other than 360). The frequency of the light does not change that it will move at that angle relative to the direction the spacetime is curved.

"I done my own tests to see if I was truly in the Astral and I believe Beavis has done the same."

I have only confirmed RTZ is real with these tests, not astral.

no_leaf_clover · August 05, 2003, 11:05:44

PM:

"Yes, but I was also told that the Physical body is also a product of our subconscious. I don't agree with your logic. If I create something, and that something is destroyed, that doesn't mean that I'll also be destroyed. Therefore, if someone commits suicide, that doesn't mean the their subconscious mind would also be destroyed!"

Your physical body isn't a product of the subconscious. The subconscious regulates your heartbeat, breathing, etc., but it didn't create your physical body. Your physical body is created when two people fall in love.... You know where I'm going. Your consciousness has been around, or else sperm and egg create your spirit as well, which I at least find hard to believe.

LogoRat · August 05, 2003, 11:55:32

Beavis: Ooops, didnt think of that, prob it isnt such a good idea after all

no_leaf_clover · August 05, 2003, 16:49:34

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LOL! You're not serious, right? I seriously doubt your parents are Masters in the creation of physical matter. I'd tend to believe "your" higher self created your physical.

Wtf? Did you ever have family life classes when you were in school? Or science? Matter isn't created, it just changes form. And I've never heard of 1 case where people have spawned from thin air just because their higher self willed themself to become physical. That's ridiculous. Moms don't create matter out of thin air; they just use energy from the food they eat to aid their unborn child's growth. This is science fact. Where your spirit came from is one thing, but as far as your physical body, there is no doubt as to where that comes from. We've gotten way off topic anyway.

Tab · August 05, 2003, 18:38:04

Scientific fact and esoteric/occult beliefs coincide. They're not opposing ideas, science is just the phenomenalistic tunnel view of existance. They're merely different facets of the same crystal.
We're all a product of either atheistic phenomentalism science or fanatical blind religious doctrine. Society is wonderful.

beavis · August 05, 2003, 18:58:31

Tab is right. If you remove the ASSUMPTIONS of science and paranormal stuff, they fit together well.

TheLunatic · August 06, 2003, 01:37:22

One would not have to start out with projecting to such a dangerous place. A massive star would be a good proving ground before trying something like projecting into a black hole. If gravity is going to be a problem one should be able to determine it by working your way into places with more and more warping of space/time. Also if time travel in the astral form is possible one could travel backward to before the black hole formed to escape... But perhaps I'm wrong in that regards....

It's interesting conjecture but I don't think there would be anything interesting to see inside a black hole.

Nita · September 08, 2003, 12:06:39

Hello Everyone
I have astral projected into a black hole. It spins around and there are two forms of spinning you can chose one energy goes out the other end. The other goes back the way that you entered. You can access parts of your future and other realities when the energy connects to different parts of the black hole.
You never try to touch a black holes inside energy or it spits you out through the sides of the hole and you have to find your way back. It can be difficult as you are in alternate realities, universes and different times when you do that. It is interesting but it can also be dangerous.
It does have benefits because it seems to open up inner connections and abilities that a person may have ignored.
Nita

Tab · September 08, 2003, 14:13:51

Good to know someone actually came back from one. Thanks for the info Nita.

pmlonline · July 02, 2003, 09:10:51

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