What if we are all being lied to by higher entities as some part of 'game'?

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uhsumdumboy

I just had this idea that may sounds far fetched. But what if all we are all part of some game on a massive playing field?

I know there seems to be a popular concept out there. from nothing came a singularity, and from that came duality. And now duality should take us hopefully into Unity.

What if unity is a lie, what if love is a challenge, along with the right to mate due to thousands of years of human programming?

What if humanity has been playing this dualistic game for years, and the main chakras are levels?

What if each chakra presented a new challenge. Each challenge having something to do with the chakra.

Level 1
The root chakra was easy, we just bonked ourselves up to level 2. next.

Level 2

The spleen chakra, in which social skills were thrown into the mix before we were able to level up baby, and make a.... well a baby.

level 3

In which emotions were thrown in and thus our populous was forced to deal with drama AND social skills before leveling up, baby. baby. baby (okay, i'll stop now, you get the idea)

level 4

Now with the addition of the Heart chakra love is thrown into the mix, love in all it's messiness. Remember now, without love there would be no loneliness. Love, when it comes to producing ones offspring is just another challenge.

Level 5

What if at this stage of the course of humanity is when we achieved verbal communication skills, a whole other challenge. Perhaps at this stage is when we had to master oral communication to precipitate the heart of our mate, to get her emotions (solar plexus) going, emotions to make her socialize with us just we we could plant the seed. Voila, game over. Well, no, not yet you see.....

Level 6

The third eye, what if this is our greatest achievement as humanity up until this point.

Level 7

What if.... We conquered esp (or at lease the potential for esp)

What if during the last golden age esp was even a part of the mating ritual.

So then what is our current challenge? OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE YET!?

Well to survive the physical world, we have had to overcome lions, tigers, bears, bacteria and virus with its own agenda, plants that can eat certain animals (and who knows what other scary thing from nature died out, but still our ancestors had to survive these brutal things.

So what if these 'higher' entities are just another set of lions, and tigers, and bears. using all of our senses to fool us. What if they want to take our spot as the dominant species? what if they are trying fool us to snare ourselves into a bear trap, so to say, by dividing and tricking us all (maybe even opening people's minds to the point where a doorway is possible to invade their bodies)

And to do so they have tricked us all time and time again, misleading religious leaders, politicians, rock stars (aleister crowley), and perhaps even you and i....



What if their intention all along was to weigh us down by a ton of karma on each and everyone of us by tricking us telepathically to trick one another communicatory, to trick one another emotionally, TO TRICK ONE ANOTHER SOCIALLY, TO TRICK ONE ANOTHER AND GO bonk OURSELVES  and dividing us from truth? Hmm. I mean, if that was their plan, it seems to be working.

Maybe that explains the pyramid. It reminds me of the song eye in the sky by Alan Parsons, man, talk about symbolism.


For those of you not familiar with the lyrics.

I am the eye
Looking at you
I can read your mind
I am the maker of rules
Dealing with fools
I can treat you blind

Wow, I did not mean for any of this to make so much sense. I don't know what else to say really other than discuss. If this is true higher entities could be posing as higher selfs, but perhaps to them we are nothing more than bears waiting to be trapped, or cows waiting to be slaughtered

This is something that seriously has to be considered by this community as it consists of people who are very intouch with their sixth sense.

Perhaps six six six number of the beast, is fear mongering!

This is making too much sense guys... Connect the dots, and ask your own tuition on this and see if it resonates with you at all. DO NOT LISTEN TO YOUR HIGHER SELF ON THIS CONCEPT, this is something that you should only trust your intuition on, your dna is encoded with your ancestors memories.

Discuss.

Edit: Also what if astral projection was meant to be the next first step for finding one's mating partner. It would seem to be the proper first step to dating for an enlightened society right?

I mean in the astral world when dealing with another human being soul I hear you can see their truth, as well as their lies. So it seems if we were enlightened as a species as opposed to bars (getting drunk and looking for a partner? what?) we would go onto the astral plane and find our perfect enlightened match while being full of clarity.... leading to a utopia......


Which by definition doesn't exist. But by whose definition? This is weird. I keep finding more dots. Will update. I welcome other people to connect dots here too. I don't know if this is true or not. I feel so uncertain about everything these days. I think this topic HAS TO BE ADDRESSED IMMEDIATELY what if december 21 2012 is game over?


Volgerle

The trickster argument has actually an innate property which makes it impossible to really discuss for me. It's similar to what is meant by philosophers when they're speaking about "Infinite Regress" while discussing creation / origin of consciousness, the universe(s), reality/realities, god, etc.

It seems to be the same here. You see, we can always ask "what if is this or that is just a trick?", and then the other person tries to justify it with sth and and you ask again "and what if that is another trick?", and so on and again and again ... infinite regress.

Skeptics do a similar thing in their rhethoric. Some religionists do the same, e.g. Christians telling you again and again that AP or past life data gained by hypnotic regression is is "not real" or maybe just a seduction of the devil or of evil demons to keep you from the "truth" of the holy scripture. Then you say you have proof and they respont again 'what if it's a trick by the devil who put it there so you could find it'?.

When it comes to this it's rarely about truth however, it's just RHETHORIC to sell you some made-up "truth" (based on fear). So we don't know the basis of the 'evil' and fear-based version either.

That's just my two cents which I cannot prove, because it's intuition only. Maybe it's intuition after all which is the only thing that will tell you if it is "real", honest or 'not a trick / trap' or else.

So discussing this doesn't lead to anywhere useful for me.  :|

uhsumdumboy

Quote from: Volgerle on December 03, 2012, 14:47:14
The trickster argument has actually an innate property which makes it impossible to really discuss for me. It's similar to what is meant by philosophers when they're speaking about "Infinite Regress" while discussing creation / origin of consciousness, the universe(s), reality/realities, god, etc.

It seems to be the same here. You see, we can always ask "what if is this or that is just a trick?", and then the other person tries to justify it with sth and and you ask again "and what if that is another trick?", and so on and again and again ... infinite regress.

Skeptics do a similar thing in their rhethoric. Some religionists do the same, e.g. Christians telling you again and again that AP or past life data gained by hypnotic regression is is "not real" or maybe just a seduction of the devil or of evil demons to keep you from the "truth" of the holy scripture. Then you say you have proof and they respont again 'what if it's a trick by the devil who put it there so you could find it'?.

When it comes to this it's rarely about truth however, it's just RHETHORIC to sell you some made-up "truth" (based on fear). So we don't know the basis of the 'evil' and fear-based version either.

That's just my two cents which I cannot prove, because it's intuition only. Maybe it's intuition after all which is the only thing that will tell you if it is "real", honest or 'not a trick / trap' or else.

So discussing this doesn't lead to anywhere useful for me.  :|


Well I don't know what your world views are, but (sorry) what if religion and science, are just two polar opposites far from the middle (truth) and the astral argument is there in the christian community, placed by a misleading higher entity, just so that when people from the new age/spiritual movement come across it they see that argument as tainted because it's origin seems to come from the other extreme?

Do you see what I'm saying? There is a lot of criticism on the new age spiritual movement, and who's to say that much like the criticism drawn to religion and science it isn't warranted

Religion, philosophy, spirituality, science, politics even all seem good at face value. We want to apply OUR understanding of how things ARE and we don't want to listen to your side because our side is the way for truth.

But what if all sides contain only half truths, covering up the garbage and filth.

We are lured in by the half truths, and we disregard the scattered truth placed in other sides?

This seems far from a pointless argument.

You know the phrase all is one, one i all? Well we either all make it or none of us make it, and recently we seem to be at war as a species.

At war as a species.

Kind regards

Bedeekin

Quote from: uhsumdumboy on December 03, 2012, 15:13:50
You know the phrase all is one, one i all? Well we either all make it or none of us make it, and recently we seem to be at war as a species.

Very true... we need to grow up or self destruct. Surely though we would grow up as a race more responsibly if we earned to respect each others differences. 

War has been a human epidemic for a very long time. It's not a recent thing by a long shot.

sunshaker

I realised long ago it was a game of sorts, And that there are many entities trying to influence the game, but they are also players.
The game as many levels and if we all understood the game, i am not yet sure what would happen,
But that is a long way of, First we must each get our own "houses" in order.
We all gravitate to what vibrates true within us,
I no longer worry what others do and think, it is how they chose to play, "This time".
I have no fear of death or death of those i love, i understand this "human experience" for what it is.
I do not like to see anything or anybody in pain, but i understand why.

When has a kid playing fleas nobody wanted it, but somebody had to have it or the game never worked.
The game is now more complicated, but like you say it is still a game.

You choose the pieces you want to play with, but also be aware of the pieces you do not wish to use,

We create more than we're aware of, but only when we are aware can we truly create.






Stillwater

I would echo the above; it is an important accademic exercise to consider all the possibilities ( and I am a doubter by nature too), and one obvious possibilty is that we are deceived- Descartes helped found modern philosophy on that worry alone. That said, if there is no way for us to know, we can't act on the possibility, we have to play the cards we see.

Think Don Quixote... just because he is fighting giants and rescuing maidens in his mind alone doesn't make his deeds any less valorous, or his sincerity less genuine. The only world we know is what is in our minds anyhow, so our situation isn't much different.

At the end of the day our lives are probably not what they appear, and it might indeed all be some big game or theatre, but our minds are as real as anything can possibly be, occupying the most basic and primal ontology of all; anything we do with them is real, and no being or circumstance of confusion or deception can change that.
"The Gardener is but a dream of the Garden."

-Unattributed Zen monastic

Contenteo

'Evil' is translated out of Latin to mean 'to become worthless'

If it really is all a game the only thing you have to lose is yourself and your self worth.

So pick your games carefully. I think part of the beauty is that you can't win them all alone.

Cheers,
Contenteo

Szaxx

Indeed we can't. That may be the reason for the universal one...
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.