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jc84corvette

Congrats on your new bundle of joy!

I think its up to you. It really is. I wouldn't tell my kids, thats if I have any, about AP. Its something you have to find out about your self.

Think of your childs reaction when you tell them about AP. They will think your crazy. HeH.

shedt

would they think it is crazy if they were told about it since they were a small child ? I would not think so. I'd think that it would be much more easier for them. but i don't know how it would effect them socially. would do you tell them ? esp if they have OBE's at a early age....

"don't tell your friends ?"

or do you just teach them everyone has their own personally views ?
can you have your child removed from you if they told a teacher they AP ?

Links Shadow

I don't have kids but it not uncommon for kids to already be very aware of these energies and practices on a more instinctual level but over time we lose touch with it.  I mean in Robert's book Astral Dynamics he talks about his kids who he taught to project at an early age being really comfortable with it.  I don't think it is a bad thing but I do think that it is also important to teach them that an obsession is a bad thing regardless of what it is over and that they also need to enjoy this world as well.

jc84corvette

Do young kids learn some of this stuff by DBZ?

Van-Stolin

I learned about it from a friend of mine.  Then I compared it to something on DBZ when I was a DBZ fan and thought it might be cool, I didn't to much about it at the time though.

On topic, I would teach my kids about it.  And be sure to fully tell them about the conciquenses of telling others that don't have the same views.
Thou shall not kill, remember?  What kind of church man are you? - Vash, Trigun

I will destroy Naraku with this Tessiaga! - Inuyasha, Inu-yasha

Truly, if there is evil in this world, it lies within the heart of mankind. - Edward D. Morrison

Euphoric Sunrise

I was wondering the same thing a while ago, shedt. I'm still not sure of what i would do. Of course, i'm only 17 and i have no plans to start a family any time soon, but it's still something i've thought about because i think it's a very important topic.

Here's something i posted a while ago: http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3899
"The soul is never silent, but wordless"
* Emperor - The Tongue of Fire

ralphm

I have 2 kids, age 20 and 15, both brought up with spiritual values instilled in them from birth. They have been exposed to buddhist, christian, yogic, pagan ideas. Hopefully they can think and reason for themselves, i have no preconceived idea about what they should believe.
As for as education goes I think the waldorf system is the best for giving them the idea that there is more to life than materialism. Teach them music and art and martial arts.As for the more esoteric stuff like astral projection I think you should be open to discuss it but they have other important phases to experience first.
In the world in general and in this nation
May not even the names disease, famine, war, and suffering be heard.
May virtuous qualities, merit, and prosperity greatly increase
And may continuous good fortune and subline well-being perfectly arise.

Ramiel

Well I'm only 20, so I have a while before I have children, but I definetely know that I want to:

-Embrace and support and assist them throughout their childhood with the feelings and concepts they get and are given ie. energy sense, talking to non-physical entities and that sort of thing
-Teach them value of tolerance and respect for every viewpoint and way of life, and show them that organised religion might not be what I follow, but that they should see it as a means for people to believe in something other than this world, and that its a good foundation for those followers to have.
-Encourage them to do what they want to do, but never discourage anything. Give them the freedom to make their own decisions with guidance by myself, but never strict linear forcefulness.
-Realise that they have had hundreds if not thousands of lifetimes before this, and realise that I think they know what they're talking about, and what they need to focus on and accomplish, even at young ages. I would be more than happy to work with them to assist in them achieving what they felt was important in their life.
-I'd also attempt during meditation to contact their souls, I've read that our souls can still move freely outside our physical bodies without negative impact up until 9 months or so, so for a year I would want to work towards contacting it to discuss its purpose, lessons, plans etc.

Just some of the ideas I have. Who knows where another decade of spiritual learning and enlightenment might bring [;)]

Regards,

-Alex

Nay

No offense...but until you have kids..you MIGHT think you know how you are going to handle it..but you haven't been ummmm..I want to say blessed..but lets get real here..

I have three...12,10, and 3yrs...yeah, I know..that last one kinda slipped in, second marriage ya know. [;)]

The one thing I can say, and totally stand by, is...be honest..if they ask questions..don't hold back.  And they will ask questions!  Don't go crazy and freak them out..use your best judgement, for their age, but be honest.  A ritual we have around our table on the weekend breakfast, is "what did you dream about?"  You will be amazed at what comes up.  
I started from there..my 12yr old seems quite interested in the "paranormal" and the goings on.  I related to him a few of my experiences, and he took it for what he thought it was worth.  He still really doesn't care...heck, he would rather play his video games..but atleast..it is there.  And when he/they are ready...it will happen, and I will be here, standing proud and tall to tell him it isn't all hoopla.  

I just can't wait till they are in there teens...cause..well, lets face it, they think they know everything then anyways...why not burst the bubble...just a bit..?...[:D]

Nay.[;)]

Ramiel

Haha, definetely no offense taken. Most of my 'planning' (which can easily go down the drain because of the unpredictability of kids) revolves around my experiences as a child, the state of the world that they will grow up into, and what I think is common sense.

My perspective is from the "fully aware and enlightened young adult who is still at the age where he can remember the parenting used to raise him, while still having access to that parental assistance when neccesary" point of view.


shaman

Hey Shawn Shedt,

Every child is different and so is also every parent. You might want to be carefull as some children might be afraid of that and they would relate that to ghosts, harry potter, halloween stories, etc... You might want to introduce things one at a time. At this stage I am introducing my children only one thing: dreams. I encourage them to share their dreams if they want to and if they remember them (they are 5 and 8). And if they ask questions, I answer, but here again I pay attention to their reaction as I do not want to scare them. And for example the big one already asks questions such as "why are we alive?", "what happens when we die?", etc.. So, one approach is first to aks what the child thinks about it and then accordinlgy to answer a little more. And also try to remember when you were a child, at what age did you want to know, a what age where you ready to know, etc... So try to put yourself into the place of your child and try to see the world with your child's eyes. Some children might prefer playing lego rather than being told about OBE. I think it is better to wait for later, such as teens, to explicitly try to teach them about these things.

Once you will have your first child you will have other things to worry about, such as not enough sleep, doctor appointments, day care, schools, laundry, etc... so don't rush forward, take it easy. You will need a lot of patience and a lot of energy!

Good luck and all the best!

ASunnieSpirit

first off listen to this interview of William Buhlman  it talks a lot about children and obes.
http://www.soultravel.nu/Channel/

secondly, children will not think obes are bizzare if you treat them like a natural thing without too much meta mumbo jumbo.

Just expand off thier flying dreams, tell them they can travel to places in thier sleep.
Im walking on sunshine :)

The Bard

I first want to say congratulations! The best of health to you and your spring baby.

I am a mom of a 9 year old and 11 year old. I raise my children to develope their own belief system. I share my beliefs with them but I don't push my beliefs on them. I tell them about astral projection and they think it is very interesting.

I believe we each have our own unique relationship with the cosmos and what may be good for one person may be the wrong thing for another.

When I was a kid my mom took me to a silva mind control meditation for astral projection. I layed down and tried to astral project with a room full of adults. I didn't get out of my body but I will never forget it. She took me to a few other meditation classes and soon after I got a meditation book called "Passages" and I practiced meditating and yoga every day. By my mom sharing her beliefs in astral projection it set me on my spiritual path. She didn't push it on us. In fact my older sister is still a sceptic but she shared what she was learning when we showed interest.

Aries

Really what would be the problem with telling your kids about it? You tell them where babys come from, you tell them that we are on Earth. Why not tell them about the AstralPlane?
-Aries
How can the spoon know the taste of soup?

Euphoric Sunrise

Because of the fears it might conjure up, Aries. You would really have to make sure they KNOW that they can't be harmed. Imagine if you told a child about this sort of thing, they get scared, and come across a neg. They may be scared of anything to do with the subject for years. Children have a vast imagination so i don't think it wouldn't take much to turn a small fear into a big fear.

I think the best thing to do is to just not force it onto them, but be open about it. Don't hide anything. If they ask questions, answer them honestly.
"The soul is never silent, but wordless"
* Emperor - The Tongue of Fire

jc84corvette

quote:
Originally posted by Aries

Really what would be the problem with telling your kids about it? You tell them where babys come from, you tell them that we are on Earth. Why not tell them about the AstralPlane?
-Aries



Because people like us are labled "crazy" by stupid fu**'s in the media.

Clow

Luckily when I was 10 I got flamed for believing in meditation lol. People really are ignorant aren't they. So I never brung OBE and Ki into school except with close friends who have a perception for spiritual abilities. I would have loved my parents to have brought this stuff on me at a young age. I think to just how much more advanced in ki and Martial arts. If they just told me a bit sooner. That's a view from a 13 year old so you can base your Ideas off that if you like.
You can't outrun death but you can make the Bastard work for it.

"Does the Walker choose the Path, or does the Path choose the Walker."

Like a light at the end of a tunnel that goes on forever.

shedt

Will Robert Bruce make a response to the topic, or any of the other moderators, or Astral Pulse Parents ? I'm just curious of what the parents here do actually teah thier children,\.

TheLunatic

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Originally posted by Euphoric Sunrise

Because of the fears it might conjure up, Aries. You would really have to make sure they KNOW that they can't be harmed.

Well kids are afraid of neg's anyway...

"The thing under my bed" or "there is a monster in the closest"

I think kids are more equipped to handle fear and uncertainty than adults are. Lets face it we are all pretty sure what is real and what isn't. A child is still learning and open to things.

I think talking about some of these things would be a good thing. But how one does it would have to depend on the child.

shedt

I was just wondering how and what Robert and the other users here teach thier children. What do you tell them about Astral Projection ? I know that when i am a parent i should teach my child what i choose too a certain point, but i was just curious what Robert Bruce and the other members say.

I'm going too have my first child around April, and I don't know where I'm going to start. I think about all the things that i have learned on my own over the last couple years. And then i wonder what if i was taught the things i have learned at a younger age.

I hope too hear from everyone, and when i have better ideas of what is on my mind I'll post them.

thanks!
take care,
-shawn