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Astral Chat => Welcome to Astral Chat! => Topic started by: € on July 27, 2005, 03:23:39

Title: Real?
Post by: on July 27, 2005, 03:23:39
Can anyone prove to me that any of this is real?

I didn't want to ask this, but It's really hard to stay motivated when I'm not sure anything I'm doing is helping, or even if any of the things I'm trying to do are possible...

Can anyone tell me how to do an exercise that I will get results from? Or astral project into my dreams, do telekinesis (If I could see it happen), send me some energy (if I could feel it), or tell me something you couldn't know without psychic powers...

I don't know what you can do... is there anything?  I just would like some reassurance... about anything...  It would just help a lot to know that someone here can do any of these things.

I've been trying different things for more than a year now and I've never had any experiences except a little tingling in my hands and some lucid dreams where I couldn't even think straight.  And I wasn't even trying to have lucid dreams when they happened.

blah. sorry. It's so frustrating for me to take time to practice these things all the time and never get any results.  It's bad enough that I can't do anything, but I don't even know if any of these "experts" can.

Well, I'll keep trying, and I'll stop whining... no matter what.
Title: Real?
Post by: tristan_mage on July 27, 2005, 03:32:19
It's a paradox, you see. You can't get results because you doubt their reality, but you can't alleviate your doubt because you need to see it to believe it, am I right?
Title: Real?
Post by: on July 27, 2005, 03:40:14
Yea, sometimes it's like that.  (I can't get results because I don't believe, and I don't believe because I get no results)  That's why it would help SO much to know that even just one of these things is possible.

I have more faith at some times than others...

Obviously when I posted this I had very little...
Title: Real?
Post by: tristan_mage on July 27, 2005, 04:04:05
Well, I could go on and on about my experience and what I've found to be real, but can I give you conclusive proof? No. But everyone goes through this, when it was my turn, I just wanted it so bad that my will power made it happen. So my advice is to want it. Bad.
Title: Real?
Post by: laiana on July 27, 2005, 09:11:35
You know, when I was trying all this for the first time, I felt results with the energy manipulation and didn't really get anywhere with AP (although I only gave a half hearted effort, i admit!)

I actuually signed up for the gnostic web Astral Travel and Dreams course:

http://www.gnosticweb.com/

And surprising myself had my first projections while following the exercises presented in that course.  Maybe its something you might find helpful?  I tell you what, that first time you find yourself rolling out of bed and walking around your room and thinking it really IS your room, its great!

I seriously thought I had gotten up and that it wasn't real, but then I realised I couldn't open my eyes (though I sometimes have this problem when I'm really sleepy) but then I "pulled" my finger and when it stretched I realised that I was not awake :)