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Astral Chat => Welcome to Astral Chat! => Topic started by: beavis on September 26, 2003, 07:26:55

Title: Rebirth and knowledge on OBE's
Post by: beavis on September 26, 2003, 07:26:55
"will our knowledge or understanding on OBE's, higher planes, celestial bodies etc... cause us not to be reborn onto the physical plane???"

Knowledge gives us a choice. I choose not to be reborn here.

"all this talk of a 2012 spiritual ascension and pole shift etc excites me a lot because i have an intuition that something is actually happening."

I have a similar intuition, but I dont know what year it will happen, except that it will probably be during my life.
Title: Rebirth and knowledge on OBE's
Post by: Tab on September 26, 2003, 13:20:07
I doubt mere knowledge of the subjects is like a ticket out of incarnation. The practical use and spiritual progression that you choose or choose not to accomplish with that knowledge is what determines it. I know all of this stuff, but if I stay a lazy butt and don't get anywhere I'll be here as long as I have to to break that cycle.
Title: Rebirth and knowledge on OBE's
Post by: rodentmouse on September 22, 2003, 16:56:55
hello good people :D

will our knowledge  or understanding  on OBE's,  higher planes, celestial bodies etc...   cause us not to be  reborn onto the physical plane???

from what i know about  buddhist teachings,  we are only reborn through our own ignorance  of  our true nature,  and  Karma...

But  people like  Robert Bruce,  i dont see why  someone like  him  would be reborn onto  this plane when he  is  intouch  and aware of  these higher realities.

Ive  read "the tibetan book of the dead"   and  "the tibetan book of living and dying"  and they  both teach  that  when  we  die,  we  must  meditate, then  we  wont  be  controlled in any way  by  the thought  forms we  create on  the  astral plane  (or  "bardo")  but  were  only controlled by them  through our lack  of knowledge of places  where  thought is mass, so to speak.

so,  i personally know  now  that when i die  i should  simply meditate,  does  this mean  that this life will be  my last incarnation on earth/the material plane?

i feel somehow  that  my life now  is more significant than my (apparent) past ones,  probably because the  knowledge ive gained  from everything  these  forums are about seem  so  significant because it deals  with the most important  issues  which make me feel at home because the  topics are so  relevant  to  our species.

all  this  talk of  a  2012  spiritual ascension and  pole  shift etc   excites me a lot  because i  have an intuition that  something is actually happening.


its  like  the end of an era  or something.

Anyway,  if all i need to do  when i die is meditate then  i suppose ill ascend :)

it seems  thats all  one has to do,  but  it also seems a little to simple,  surely  theres more  to  it than that.