Reincarnation Question.

[urshebear]

Just wondering what people's thoughts are.

If somebody dies and then reincarnates, would the soul of the person who died be contactable via a medium or would that soul have completely moved on from the other side back to physical life?

I am wondering if the reincarnated soul leaves some kind of energy footprint of their past life which a medium may be able to make contact with after the soul has moved on or something?? could the soul be in two places at once?

[LightBeam]

I am wondering if the reincarnated soul leaves some kind of energy footprint of their past life which a medium may be able to make contact with after the soul has moved on or something?? could the soul be in two places at once?

You are thinking through the laws of physics in the physical reality considering past present and future. But this is just an illusion. Everything in the multiverse exists simultaneously and everything that per your perception has ever happened exists now. We just cant access these events because of dense energy limitations. Just imagine a book. All the events in that book exist. You just have to turn a page to experience them now. It does  not matter the order in which the events had occurred, they always exist. Does that answer your question?

[urshebear]

okay..so you are saying that a soul can be two places at once? both crossed over and reincarnated to the next life?

so here is another question..

I have a cousin who massively identify's herself in my daughter, last night we were talking about the possibility of my daughter being my cousin in another life...only they both exist on earth at the same time right now....crazy or possible?

[desert-rat]

I believe when some one dies  1 of several things will happen .  There soul will go on to one of the astral planes , they will stay earth bound as a ghost , they will reincarnate . Based on beliefs , karma , ect. I believe some energy from there life is left behind . 

[LightBeam]

okay..so you are saying that a soul can be two places at once? both crossed over and reincarnated to the next life?

so here is another question..

I have a cousin who massively identify's herself in my daughter, last night we were talking about the possibility of my daughter being my cousin in another life...only they both exist on earth at the same time right now....crazy or possible?

Time and space are not what they seem to be in the multiverse. All events that have occurred per our perception as NOW are never erased from the fabric of the universe after what we think is a past. Everything always exists, just in different frequencies and frames. Our spirits are not just one ball of energy as many think. Parts of it can experience different personalities in different realities. I can access and speak with all my past lives characters, as well as future ones. The thing is we perceive them as past present and future, but they all exist simultaneously. I know it's hard to comprehend from our limited perspective. Maybe other moderators can give their opinion as well. And if you look at the very core of the multiverse in the highest dimension, we are all one entity.

[EscapeVelocity]

LightBeam, I think there's not much more to say; you answered that succinctly and in beautiful language.

I like it so much, I'll have to print it off for my notes.lol

I like the book analogy, it's a great Physical world example of something that is otherwise untranslatable.

The only thing I might add is that the idea eventually occurs that--- given multiple experiences of simultaneous second and third person perspectives, the concept occurs to one that the Soul does not reside in the currently-incarnated Physical person (me) but is rather just presently focused there. And we can switch or multiply the focus any time we figure out how to...

Thus, the idea opens that we are not actually projecting from our Physical because we are not actually there to begin with...

That leads to a whole semantical argument of where 'there' is...

[Astralzombie]

The paradigm that all time and space and therefore the events that occur all exist at once has never been explained to me in an OBE but I do get that feeling and some theoretical physicists believe that this is a better view of our reality and that it ties up more loose ends.  If you prescribe to this belief and I personally do, then you can see that you are currently experiencing many incarnations simultaneously. So it would be possible for you to die tomorrow and then reincarnate in the middle ages. You may not even be an Earthling on the next go-around, who knows for sure. Perhaps it would be more appropriate to say that you would become aware of that life experience since it would be the one that you are grounded in.  

In the immediate moments that follow our physical deaths, I imagine that we will still be thinking of time as we experience it now so we would want to reunite with out lost loved ones. Since this seems to be the case that is most often reported in NDEs, I'm inclined to believe that the people as we knew them to be, wouldl not want to reincarnate until everyone that they are connected to in the physical world has also died and transitioned. It may be selfish of us to want them to hang around for us since I'm sure they still have some more evolving to do but this would also depend on how time is experienced without a physical body.

I'll end there since I am only confusing myself.

[LightBeam]

the Soul does not reside in the currently-incarnated Physical person (me) but is rather just presently focused there. And we can switch or multiply the focus any time we figure out how to...

Exactly, it's a matter of focus orientation. Thank you EV!!!!

[LightBeam]

The paradigm that all time and space and therefore the events that occur all exist at once has never been explained to me in an OBE

I will give you one example from my experiences: During one of my APs, I found myself walking in a town that I have never seen in the physical, yet it was familiar and I had memories of it. As I was walking and looking at the buildings through the glass, I saw my reflection. I was a black girl, very pretty. I was startled, because I was me as I know myself currently, yet I was seeing a different reflection as being me, but somehow I knew that was me, just another personality. It's difficult to explain how I felt at that moment. I realized I existed as many personalities in different dimensions, different eras, etc, and I understood that concept. I have had many other experiences like this one when I was a different personality. I guess I was accessing some other knowledge through their experiences.

[EscapeVelocity]

I am with AZ on this in that I have not had any experiences along this line. That's why your words, LightBeam, were so significant to me. I can conceptually 'know' the concept, but your firsthand experience and description of it fills in so many gaps!!! You present the 'feel' of it! That way, I get it. Thank you!

I've had nothing on past or future lives (yet) but have experienced multiple, simultaneous focuses, which leads me towards the concept.

That's why I especially value the different experiential viewpoints of our moderators; priceless!

[Astralzombie]

I only meant that no being ever told me that this is how it works.While I do believe that I have been shown several past lives, they appeared to be linear in nature.

However, other experiences that dealt more specifically with time or time was a theme, have led me to mostly disregard linear time.

Too bad that no one ever just gives us the cut an dry. It's always riddles.

[Lionheart]

Too bad that no one ever just gives us the cut an dry. It's always riddles.

Whoever it is that's responsible for our lessons knows that the best way to teach us a lesson is to have us live through it.

I believe for this reason that the NPR is all about puzzles, quests, riddles and adventures. It's up to us to de-cipher the meaning of all of these events ourselves! 

Being able to discern the whats, where, whys and hows of these events, etc., is a big part of our evolution.

[Astralzombie]

Whoever it is that's responsible for our lessons knows that the best way to teach us a lesson is to have us live through it.

I believe for this reason that the NPR is all about puzzles, quests, riddles and adventures. It's up to us to de-cipher the meaning of all of these events ourselves! 

Being able to discern the whats, where, whys and hows of these events, etc., is a big part of our evolution.

I can't argue with that. It doesn't matter how many times something is explained to us, true understanding can only come from experience. Besides, once you're on to something, the NP has a way of letting you know you're on the right track. The really important matters are reinforced with both positive and negative experiences. We get to see both sides of the coin, so to speak, and this leaves a lasting impression.

[EscapeVelocity]

Lionheart, that is a BIG truth. And AZ, a very key adjunct observation. What you both point out are lessons/realizations that only come with experiencing the NPR over time.

[Astralzombie]

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/fieldtrip-t43624.0.html;msg340204#msg340204

The above experience related from EV is an excellent example of how there are many different ways to experience time besides our own and how unusual it is when you do.