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Title: Revolutions and bad karma
Post by: no_leaf_clover on January 28, 2004, 01:01:37
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I was wondering though, would doing such a thing cause the perpetrator bad karma, even though his intentions are (in a way) good??


My guess is that it would depend on how people are effected by it. If it would effect more people in a bad way, it would probably end up being a burden for you to work off. I don't know how things would work out if more people positively effected; whether or not you would still get some 'bad karma'. I guess your actions would still determine your karma changes so long as people would still effected by what you did. Just my opinions.
Title: Revolutions and bad karma
Post by: Fat_Turkey on January 28, 2004, 01:13:03
Thanks for that.

For those of you who are wondering, I just have extremist views on how this world can be turned around and stop eating thier own asses through their corporate/materialistic lives. I often talk about it and I daydream of leading revolutions, though I know the real possibility of it all is next to nil.

Speaking of which, I've even been called by one of my friends as "the next Hitler." Scary thought haha[|)]

~FT
Title: Revolutions and bad karma
Post by: beavis on January 30, 2004, 21:53:05
If you destroy the credit system, it will come back. The world is the way it is because of the people. You would have to destroy them to get a good system.
Title: Revolutions and bad karma
Post by: twstedrage on January 31, 2004, 18:33:15
You wouldn't have to destroy people. They just need re-education. I agree with FT though. Something needs to happen. This world just isn't right. It drives me nuts every day. I think that we are way too far advanced of a culture for this monitary system and government that we have. But as long as Rich jerks, conflicts with religion, brainwashing cooperate america and ingorant people are around the world will never change. Anyhow, I don't think as long as you did something in a fight club way where no one got hurt, I don't see how bad karma would happen. You'd free millions of people out of debt and screw the companies that screw us, so it's more likely bad karma coming to them.....j/k

Robert
Title: Revolutions and bad karma
Post by: Jenadots on February 02, 2004, 21:23:06
Do consider that mankind needs evolution far more than we need revolution.  

Title: Revolutions and bad karma
Post by: rhinegirl on February 02, 2004, 21:48:30
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Originally posted by twstedrage

You wouldn't have to destroy people. They just need re-education.


Yes, re-education. You'd like Mein Kampf. The author talks a great deal about re-education.

Jessica
Title: Revolutions and bad karma
Post by: mustard on February 03, 2004, 14:16:12
To whom this might interest,
We as humans have made our way of living and we will be destroyed by it[:D], because well I hope not, but the society is such a fragile thing.
Just yesterday the electricity went out in my neighborhood and all hell broke loose![:O]
We depend too much on artificial objects and it wont last for long, resources are being depleted and polluted!
[:P]
Title: Revolutions and bad karma
Post by: twstedrage on February 04, 2004, 04:12:56
I do agree that man kind needs to evolve. We are in a slump that man kind has never been in before. However I fear that mustard is right and we will create our own destruction and I honestly don't see how we will make it another 100 years the way we are. I think I read somewhere that we have like less than 10 years of oil reserves left. Yet we keep using them. There are other means of power yet we are convinced and really have no choice but to use gasoline and oil consumption. Money is the start of the problem in society, second by artificial objects as mustard put it and between the two we rob our planet and ourselves of evolution. I feel lost and helpless to try to change anything.  They say one voice can make a difference, but try telling someone there is a better life without money and riches and they call you a communists. Anyways that is just my thought, there are a great few people that could change this world but they get lost in the ignorance of the rich and powerful and makes me loose all hope for humanity.
Title: Revolutions and bad karma
Post by: Gandalf on February 04, 2004, 17:40:01
twstedrage_

Don't worry, the oil reserves are actually not due to run out for about 50 years, and even then there are possibly large amounts under the surface of antartica which could be raped.

However, I think it will probably work out just perfectly, as most scientists have been saying that workable nuclear fusion power (zero pollution, runs on sea water) although already invented, would not become a feasable alternative for other fuel types of at least another 30 or 40 years.

Which means that it will phase in gradually just as the old fossil fuel reserves are starting to run out... so I see no great problem.. the doom mongers see everything in the worse possible way.
The only thing that needs to be done is to manage the continuing pollution content of the old fossil fuels until around 2040 or so, which although a problem  I agree, is certainly manageable.

Douglas
Title: Revolutions and bad karma
Post by: twstedrage on February 04, 2004, 18:27:16
The thing is we have the ability to change now and we don't. There are battery powered cars that can go as fast as you want them too and last 3 weeks. Hydrogen powered generators and even cars. However we still use gasoline and pollute and plurge our world of it's resources. The people in power don't want things to change. For example there was this guy who had a numatic generator. It basically just needed a jump start every 3 months or longer, by a v8 engine to get it up to speed and it had magnets to keep it spinning and generate energy and it had enough to power 29 homes. Well the US government got wind of it and took it away and warned him he would be locked up for a long time if he made another one. Bush says we need more diesel power plants and alternative natural energy is not good enough. Now why would he do that when there is better things out there. Anyways my whole point is we have the means to change but we are brainwashed but the wrong people and it will be our undoing. But yes there is always hope we will change, however will it be in time is the real question.
Title: Revolutions and bad karma
Post by: Fat_Turkey on January 28, 2004, 00:29:47
I have had recent thoughts about how one could go about revolutionising the world in an incredibly extreme way. For those of you who have seen Fight Club, you would probably know what I'm talking about.

At the end of the movie, they end up evacuating all the people of major credit card corporations' headquarters because all the people that worked there were loyal members of the Fight Club. Anyhoo, that sort of thing would crash the world's economy, allowing for a total changeover and purging of the materialistic bullcrap that exists in the world.

I was wondering though, would doing such a thing cause the perpetrator bad karma, even though his intentions are (in a way) good??

Later
~FT