Science study of instant body change

[Inward]

Has anyone seen this study?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1931677431609629982&q=levitation

Inward

[Stillwater]

Hi Inward

Hmm..

Thanks for posting this, but I would be wary, as the header says the "American Antigravity Institute". This sounds like a goofy name a commitee gave themselves, rather than an actual governmenrt funded project. Now the man is not visibly leaveing the ground, but I do not think this is the purpose of the video; I think what you were interested in was the reading which they took showing that his body weight went down like 10 Newtons (2 pounds). This does not actually mean that he "weighs less" in the popular-conventional sense of having less mass (what the media calls losing pounds), but rather that he weighs less in the scientifc sense, in that he may have the same mass, but the force of gravity is either less on that mass, or counteracted by another force, giving him less net-weight. I am not sure the information can be taken at face value, given the source, and remembering that there is very likely an error in their methods (as 10 Newtons is nothing- I can shift my wieght on the scale to easily generate a difference of 20 Newtons- like 4.4 pounds). The difference in the weight would have to be massive (like 50 pounds), and all alternative explanations ruled out (Like Homer Simpson losing weight by having his butt on the towel rack while he was on the scale  ), before the video could suggest documentation of psychic phenomena.

But on a lighter note, if one possessed the ability to levitate, negative fluctuations in their weight would be the first tell-tale sign I would look for. It is just too bad that they could not have tested someone claiming more talent, and with more circumspect methods. But thanks alot, inward! This is a neat tidbit.

[Inward]

I would be wary, as the header says the "American Antigravity Institute". This sounds like a goofy name a commitee gave themselves, rather than an actual governmenrt funded project.

I would only encourage you to spend a little more time investigating topics that may oppose your present beliefs. Remember, ones thoughts become their future reality. The scientific source has nothing to do with American Antigravity. American Antigravity merely posted the video at google. American Antigravity also interviews scientists. If you have issues with American Antigravity then perhaps you should send them an email.

The project of this research is lead by Danielle Graham the Executive Director of Northwest Frontier Research Institute. NW's work was presented at SSE, Society for Scientific Exploration. The 1st stage budget was ~$80,000.

http://www.scientificexploration.org
http://www.rabbitholeresearch.com


Did anyone listen to Dean Radin on Coast To Coast AM last night?  I sense that the collective is gearing up for global proof within the next 20 years. Dean Radin, a major player in the Princeton University Global Consciousness Project, announced hardcore scientific proof that mind affects matter.  Eight years of data has revealed the overall odds against chance are roughly 300000 to 1.  Dean revealed a major breakthrough in the data analysis, which reveals a 2-hour precursor to global events.  Furthermore the effect seems to attenuate relative to distance.

For those not aware of this eight-year scientific project, EGGs are purely quantum random number generators connected to computers through out the world at universities. During key events, the random quantum generators become non-random. According to Quantum Physicist there are no known fields in nature that should cause a random quantum generator to become non-random. Eight years of data clearly shows this is associated with global events.

Several years ago Dean performed a live experiment on Coast To Coast AM (C2C). He asked the millions of listeners to merely focus on the EGG devices. Over the following days the scientists at GCP compiled the EGG data. Dean went back on C2C and posted the graph of time over data. It clearly showed a huge spike in the EGG's during the time when C2C listeners focused on the EGG's.

This type of data is consistent time after time. Does anyone really know how high a 300000 to 1 odds is. You would be a guaranteed rich person if you took those odds to Vegas. Heck, you would be rich if you had 2.001 to 1 odds.

This statistics is based on recording EGG data coming from universities around the world non-stop for eight years. That provides some real good statistical averaging.

IMHO consciousness is the fundamental force in nature.

Global Consciousness Project
http://noosphere.princeton.edu/

The official Dean Radin home page
http://www.deanradin.com/NewWeb/bio.html

Dean Radin book "Entangled Minds"
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1416516778/ctoc/104-6985477-7786346

Inward

[Stillwater]

Hi Inward:

would only encourage you to spend a little more time investigating topics that may oppose your present beliefs. Remember, ones thoughts become their future reality. The scientific source has nothing to do with American Antigravity. American Antigravity merely posted the video at google. American Antigravity also interviews scientists. If you have issues with American Antigravity then perhaps you should send them an email.

Actually, I believe levitation is more than possible- I am simply wary when someone claims to be able to do it, and does not offer ample proof. I just do not think 10 Newton fluctuations are near enough to convice me that the man was levitating, even if I think it is in principle a very probable phenomenon. If they offered more data, I think they might have a better case. If this American Antigravity is a respected group, then fair enough- it merely struck me as a small-time group trying to gain credibility by giving themselves a prominent sounding name, sort of as American Computers , a very small company which really only distributes the units,  tried to when they claimed to have developed a "transfer-capacitator" which stored 900 gigs in a poker-chip sized space. Many were actually convinced merely by the name alone; but if this group does honest work, I really have no quip.

For those not aware of this eight-year scientific project, EGGs are purely quantum random number generators connected to computers through out the world at universities. During key events, the random quantum generators become non-random. According to Quantum Physicist there are no known fields in nature that should cause a random quantum generator to become non-random. Eight years of data clearly shows this is associated with global events.

Several years ago Dean performed a live experiment on Coast To Coast AM (C2C). He asked the millions of listeners to merely focus on the EGG devices. Over the following days the scientists at GCP compiled the EGG data. Dean went back on C2C and posted the graph of time over data. It clearly showed a huge spike in the EGG's during the time when C2C listeners focused on the EGG's.

This type of data is consistent time after time. Does anyone really know how high a 300000 to 1 odds is. You would be a guaranteed rich person if you took those odds to Vegas. Heck, you would be rich if you had 2.001 to 1 odds.

This statistics is based on recording EGG data coming from universities around the world non-stop for eight years. That provides some real good statistical averaging.

If this is the Princeton- originated study that started with the polysterene balls in the collector slots and the random- number generators which logged unusual combinations simaltaneously around the world, I am familiar with it. From what I have read of the methods involved, I think these studies are probably among the most professional involving the effect of consciosness on matter to date.

IMHO consciousness is the fundamental force in nature.

I actually agree whole-heartedly. In philosophy I am called a "idealistic monist", in that I think that mind (consciousness) is the only thing which has permenant existence in the world; energy, and energy expressed as matter are merely manifestations of mind to me. In principle, as I am sure you would agree, this make anything, especially such simple things as levitation, possible.



I do not have any issue with anything you have said- I am merely saying that I do not think this video in its current form is anything like hardcore demonstration of levitation- it is merely a suggestion of phenomena associated with it. If this group offers more data in addition, perhaps the story is different.

Thanks again, stillwater

[Inward]

Hi,

I'm sure Danielle Graham is more than happy to share all the data to interested parties. As the SSE scientists said, all she needs to do is double check the scale to be absolutely 100% certain that it's not due to body weight shifting. It is highly unlikely that it's due to weight shifting considering they had roughly $80,000 to spend on this project. I mean, even a _decent_ bathroom scale should not shift several pounds by slightly shifting the body.  Can you imagine a boxer fooling the scale at a multi million dollar boxing match?  I think professional scales have overcome weight errors from body shifting.  Additionally, the person that is being weighed, the guy meditating, is sitting down thereby placing his center of gravity near the ground, which greatly reduces body weight shifting. Also Danielle Graham mentioned that the meditating guy did not move or at least she could not see any moving.

Even so, a professional scale should not change 1 pound from any body shifting.

Personally I think the experiment is legitimate, but I have a feeling that since the collective is not ready for such global proof yet that this experiment and research will just collect dust.

Inward