seriously...

[458id]

From all the posts, and all the replies...lol.. Just one question - how much of you doing real, classic AP with "correct" body ie - crystalline plus Energy - Effulgence/luminosity?
It looks like 95% of you wasting time on different things like LD, Phase, RTZ, etc, without any development of your real subtle body...

[LightBeam]

From all the posts, and all the replies...lol.. Just one question - how much of you doing real, classic AP with "correct" body ie - crystalline plus Energy - Effulgence/luminosity?
It looks like 95% of you wasting time on different things like LD, Phase, RTZ, etc, without any development of your real subtle body...

Please describe "development of real subtle body"

All experiences regardless, including the physical reality, play roles in spiritual development.

[desert-rat]

I am not sure if the op of this thread sees astral projection as real or not .  Also I would guess that English is not there first lang.  As to real and subtle body , the way I understand it is that we all have 4 bodies .  Phy. , astral , energy , and mental body , or higher self . 

[Kzaal]

If you focus on only one thing you will be missing out on the other important things.
Spirituality and energy is worth all it's time for me.
That 95% of the other stuff we are focusing on, is the 95% of the 100%.
by that I mean, that 95% is VERY important, if we focused only on 5% of the thing then we wouldn't really be advanced would we?

[458id]

Please describe "development of real subtle body"
All experiences regardless, including the physical reality, play roles in spiritual development.

Developed subte body expressed in a minimum amount of "Effulgence" - spiritual light, which called in old sanskrit texts as a Brahman effulgence or Brahma-joyti. Minimum amount are around 40+ cm in length, and you could share with that particular energy with people/persons important to you.
"Original" subtle body is translucent-crystalline like in appearence with added Energy around outline.

[458id]

If you focus on only one thing you will be missing out on the other important things.
Spirituality and energy is worth all it's time for me.
That 95% of the other stuff we are focusing on, is the 95% of the 100%.
by that I mean, that 95% is VERY important, if we focused only on 5% of the thing then we wouldn't really be advanced would we?

And humanity absolutely no advanced at all in any sphere, be it spirituality or whatever.

[458id]

I am not sure if the op of this thread sees astral projection as real or not .  Also I would guess that English is not there first lang.  As to real and subtle body , the way I understand it is that we all have 4 bodies .  Phy. , astral , energy , and mental body , or higher self . 

1)Absolutely real, i didn't say anything about unreality of Ap.
2)Yep, not even third

[Lionheart]

And humanity absolutely no advanced at all in any sphere, be it spirituality or whatever.

You seem to have quite the chip your shoulder. Could you explain why?

[Kzaal]

And humanity absolutely no advanced at all in any sphere, be it spirituality or whatever.

Or maybe you were born in the wrong time, maybe the year 5000 would be more suitable for you?

[Stillwater]

You seem to have quite the chip your shoulder. Could you explain why?

^^^

[desert-rat]

I am not sure if "chip" is the rite word .  I think its more that the op of this thread is just from a slightly different belief system  . 

[mon9999]

Must be a Hare Krishna...

[Lionheart]

I am not sure if "chip" is the rite word .  I think its more that the op of this thread is just from a slightly different belief system  . 

I used the word "chip" because I detect a lot of anger in his/her writing.

[blidge]

Hi all and 458id, you sound like you swolled a book. More lamen terms please and with less aggression if possible. ..