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Question: Should there be a conspiracy section on the forums?
Option 1: Yes votes: 4
Option 2: No votes: 4
Title: Should there be a conspiracy section on the forums?
Post by: Awakened_Mind on October 04, 2009, 14:42:50
This post is to see whether the users of the forum are interested in having a section strictly related to conspiracy theories. If we have a strong enough interest it may be worth consulting administration. Types of theories would include: JFK, Roswell, Moon-landing, 9/11, New World Order, Swine flu etc.

Up to the users  :-)

-AM
Title: Re: Should there be a conspiracy section on the forums?
Post by: no_leaf_clover on October 04, 2009, 16:58:44
As important as though topics are, I'd rather they be mixed into our normal media and general forums than sifted out and placed essentially in a confinement center.  Because that's what it will be for anyone who doesn't want to hear about those things.
Title: Re: Should there be a conspiracy section on the forums?
Post by: zareste on October 04, 2009, 18:57:35
Yeah, plus it's ridiculous to classify information about governments as conspiracies and conspiracy theories
Title: Re: Should there be a conspiracy section on the forums?
Post by: kurtykurt42 on October 04, 2009, 20:32:57
I think it's important to understand the truth behind these 'conspiracy theories'. Most people get their information from the media not the internet, so they are oblivious to the truth behind these events. Although, for many of the major conspiracy theories there are websites dedicated to each topic usually with extensive research and evidence.
Title: Re: Should there be a conspiracy section on the forums?
Post by: Sadd-e Eskandar on October 05, 2009, 05:14:51
 Not a 'conspiracy' section because that would give the idea of a bunch of guys paranoid enough to make stuff up - but a section of this forums about Aliens and that it entails, yes, I'd enjoy that very much so.
Title: Re: Should there be a conspiracy section on the forums?
Post by: Stookie on October 05, 2009, 11:45:33
It's not gonna happen.
Title: Re: Should there be a conspiracy section on the forums?
Post by: NoY on October 05, 2009, 11:51:10
Quote from: Stookie on October 05, 2009, 11:45:33
It's not gonna happen.

it's a mod conspiracy
Title: Re: Should there be a conspiracy section on the forums?
Post by: Athymari on October 05, 2009, 12:04:19
Personally, Aliens, UFOs and conspiracies have nothing to do with the main/general subject purpose of this website.
Title: Re: Should there be a conspiracy section on the forums?
Post by: kurtykurt42 on October 05, 2009, 12:06:53
We should expand the main subject of the website in order to draw more people to astral projection.
Title: Re: Should there be a conspiracy section on the forums?
Post by: no_leaf_clover on October 05, 2009, 21:11:30
Quote from: kurtykurt42 on October 05, 2009, 12:06:53
We should expand the main subject of the website in order to draw more people to astral projection.

I would argue that the nature of reality already includes every other subject within the subject of astral projection.

For example, a part of energy raising is cleansing your body.  Cleansing your body means getting rid of toxins, and most toxins are delivered to us from sugary and chemical-laden processed foods and drinks that the FDA allows us to eat simply because they are paid off by lobbyists.  An under-reported news article lately was that Europe was refusing "toxic" US food from being distributed there.  All of these sorts of issues are important to be aware of on a personal level, and tie into being healthy and aware in general.  Anyone into AP'ing should be all about health and general awareness.

We already have the news and media forum, and astral chat, and some similar forums that emphasize different things.  Just let the "conspiracy theories" fall into the topics they belong to.
Title: Re: Should there be a conspiracy section on the forums?
Post by: Awakened_Mind on October 05, 2009, 22:01:15
Quote from: zareste on October 04, 2009, 18:57:35
Yeah, plus it's ridiculous to classify information about governments as conspiracies and conspiracy theories

Well it's in relation to a group or groups of people with a different agenda other than that of what mainstream society believes to be the correct agenda. Members of government are elected by the people of a country to represent that country. If members of the government come together in secret with a different agenda than the main body of government, then it is a conspiracy. I think the problem lies in the cultural analysis of the word 'conspiracy'. It's seen as a sought of crazy man's area of interest. When in fact there's evidence enough is people would just open their eyes.

-AM
Title: Re: Should there be a conspiracy section on the forums?
Post by: Stookie on October 06, 2009, 12:01:37
One beef I have with the "theorists": They're all connected in the industry.

Linda Moulton Howe = Whitley Strieber = Richard Hoagland = George Noory/Coast to Coast = William Henry = Stephen Greer = David Icke = ...etc.

All of these people have things to sell and make a career out of it and cross-promote each other & do expensive seminars. It's an industry, and one that won't stop because it's impossible to DISPROVE any of it. None of these people every come out and say "oops, I was wrong on that" because they don't have to. If they ever found out they were wrong, their career is immediately in jeopardy, especially the ones who have been doing it for more than 20 years. What do you do after that, work at Burger King?

There could be some correct things, but the industry behind it makes me leery about what I'm being told. That goes for both mainstream media AND conspiracy media. Alex Jones spits a lot of info, but in the number of years he's been doing this, he hasn't really done anything other than talk. (I find him entertaining though).

In honesty, I keep up with the current theories, but I take it all with a grain of salt. I wouldn't tell it to anyone else as fact.
Title: Re: Should there be a conspiracy section on the forums?
Post by: Tiny on October 06, 2009, 17:20:32
QuoteOne beef I have with the "theorists": They're all connected in the industry.

One beef I have with 90% of humans is that they tend to generalize things.
It can be anything, and so it is done with truth-seekers.

Truthseekers are not a group, the term "truth movement" is highly deceptive.
What happens is that the information of the  research of individual comitted turthseekers overlaps with one another, so they can momentarily appear to be grouply related which they are not. Sometimes they cluster and form a group, which is a trap. They imprison themselves by creating groups.

Neither are all these gurus, Alex Jones, David Icke, Maxwell etc. all the same. Some of them are passionate to spread their version of research, others are agents of deception - go figure!
It's certainly not advisable to hold on to these gurus to base one's own understanding on. They are amazing tools for inspiration though, as I see it.

So, when we shatter the illusion of "WE/THEY", we can see more clearly:

A putrid, foul stench of deception permeates this world and many people are beginning to find this out.

Conspiracy is a bad word, instead just think of very influential people who know no boundaries in going forward to complete their agenda.
The media unfortunately gives a very false picture of criminals.
More often in this world, the real criminals wear ties, white shirts and smooth dark suites, not eye-patches, turbans and guns.

QuoteLinda Moulton Howe = Whitley Strieber = Richard Hoagland = George Noory/Coast to Coast = William Henry = Stephen Greer = David Icke = ...etc.

All of these people have things to sell and make a career out of it and cross-promote each other & do expensive seminars.


So you're claiming "THEY" are conspiring with each other in an agenda to make money, without providing us with substantial evidence to back your claim up. Isn't that a conspiracy theory in the truest sense of the term? :roll:


I would like to remind everyone that historically, pioneers have always been ridiculed, attacked and ignored. What seperates historic mankind from modern mankind?

So who here has the guts to say that humanity has grown spiritually over thousands of years til now, without feeling like a fool within yourselves afterwards, knowing that it is clearly not the case.
Title: Re: Should there be a conspiracy section on the forums?
Post by: Stookie on October 07, 2009, 11:49:28
QuoteSo you're claiming "THEY" are conspiring with each other in an agenda to make money, without providing us with substantial evidence to back your claim up. Isn't that a conspiracy theory in the truest sense of the term?

Nope, I'm not claiming it's an agenda to make money, but I think that they've maybe unconsciously created this industry which provides them jobs, and maybe even unconsciously overlook obvious discrepancies knowing their quality of living depends on it. I'm just saying it's an easy possibility and one that makes me leery of their information. They could be completely correct, but until they have any proof, there's that huge possibility. Not even that they mean to mislead people, they may believe it themselves and still be wrong.

Pretty much EVERYTHING I read on the internet I'm leery about, and obviously I'm not knocking everyone with unverifiable info. I just try to verify the nature of things on my own terms, which in a way is what astral projection is about for me. I need a verification of what is real.

I weekly visit Strieber's "Unknown Country", LMH's "Earthfiles", Infowars, & some others, & take in their weekly info, so I'm not completely against it. I just stay leery of what I'm fed from all directions.
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A putrid, foul stench of deception permeates this world and many people are beginning to find this out.
There's a lot of beauty and love too, and some people ignore it and focus on what they despise. Your world will turn into what you focus on.