Jawbone

[Luthor]

I was thinking of getting a fitness bracelet for Xmas and looking at the specs was interested to note that in addition to being basically tarted up pedometers some them like the jawbone 24 claim to monitor sleep cycles and are able not only to track rem, light and deep sleep and can be programmed to bwake you up at an optimal time.

There are a few out there, most very similar and not much science backing up their claims re sleep monitoring but i'm curious. Has anyone used one in connection with AP or think (if they do what they claim) that they could be used to help novice AP'ers like me hit the sweet spot in their sleep cycle?

[Szaxx]

Do your best to not use these tools you think may help.
It's a natural process and it has been without tools in most cases for millennia.
A shamanic experience is a far better tool done correctly.
If you get one you can let us all know if you get a boost from it.

[Bluefirephoenix]

If your focused on the physical world including the monitoring devices you cannot go into the right state to focus on astral. Messing with the monitor will bring you right out of trance.

[Luthor]

My understanding is that you can program it to vibrate softly on hitting a certain sleep threshold like REM sleep etc but yes it's likely that would serve to catapult you back to full consciousness. Wrong kind of vibrations I guess

When it comes to toys and tech. I've come to lurve binaurals but I'm going to cut back as I wonder if I'm getting too attached to them. Like a kid afraid to ride without stabilizers who thinks they're helping when they're slowing him down.

I've not had the chance to play with the Kasina yet which seems to get a lot of love on AP. I do agree that these are things that can assist and that the shamanic experience can't be replicated by tech toys. Maybe they can be used to give it a nudge... I don't know. I'd actually question if tech could be used to trigger AP whether it should be - Whether it's use might bypass inbuilt, natural safeguard's in the way that for example hallucinogenics could. (Of course the TMI boys pretty much invented binaurals so big argument against)   

I'm all for projecting it au-natural just don't seem to be very good it (yet) and although I've hit that mid morning sweet spot before where it seems effortless and had a couple of mind blowing experiences but struggle to replicate it. Intent and Practice, practice I know.

I'll report back on the Jaw Bone when I get one if it has any AP application