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[1109]

Sapphire I really think you need to get off your high horse, you consider yourself a god? Give me break

[Sapphire-]

I think that Sapphire believes in what she says about being a God. Honestly, i dont care if she(or he?!) is a god or not...really. So, why mind with that?

The storys about chocolate in heaven and so, are funny and interesting...these are things that she/he sees in the astral and i like that kind of things. Since saphire it is not offending no one neither trying to create any cult (well..i think not), i dont care if you have 15 years and you are lying or if you have indeed obes and you are god.
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[Sapphire-]

I am not being stupid, just sating that i really dint care since my own studys about death, obes, etc, will not be affected by sapphire. I just lik eto hear nice storys, with imagination. Like the one about chocolate...hummm!

Thank you, my dear.

[Tombo]

what is a Buddha?

[mrpete]

ignore me

[Sapphire-]

I don't care if Sapphire thinks

[Hans Solo]

The judge looked at me (He could not tell I am a God.) And he was able to sentence me. That was ridicules, first of all. He could not tell that I am not really dead. Secondly, he could not give me fair hearing. Thirdly, he could not tell I am a God.

But I waited patiently, until he finished his words. I stood up. (I am very clear minded know who I am, you need to be, too when OBE.) I was much bigger than him, because I am a god.

I said to him : "Sentence, my butt." (Pardon my french.) "First of all you could not tell I am a god. Secondly, you could not even tell I am not actually dead. And you have no ability to give fair hearings." I fired him and got a god from the kingdom of Heaven to be the "Judge". Who are able to give fair hearing and having the ability to actually view what the humans did while they were alive and judge them from there. And have the ability to see if the soul is still having live human body on earth and able to tell if the soul is a god or goddess from the kingdom of Heaven or kingdom of gods.

By the way if you are a god or goddess from the Kingdom of Heaven, you can only be judged by the Judge from the kingdom of gods, and if you are a god or goddess, you suffer no Karma. And you can not be judged, you just come back to the Kingdom of gods. But the king of all gods rules over there.

Trust me, there were a god from the kingdom of gods was judged by mistake and sent to Heaven jail and suffered unnecessary.

Later, I was informed. I was requested to be there is because there were too much complaints about wrong judgment from that judge.

ahh... the delusions of Focus 2.  I would be laughing my a*s off if so many people weren't listening to you.

My friend, read my words carefully, there are still there. I said, so far I have not found anyone left earth(I meant all the people in this site), I meant at the begin postings. Later, I did find Knightlight is able to but different method.

What?!  check out Franks and major Toms posts, and hell Adrian even wrote a book on Ap.  

[Drew]

I am the god of all gods.

[Vvid1012]

I was just curious if anyone had any comments/thoughts to my previous post

Also I had another thought.  If all we see is illusion within our own mind, wouldn't that rule out all possible ghosts/angels/or even spirit guides? I know Frank claimed to have a few.  It just seems sort of contradictory when it is all "manifested."

Although, I do realize it was said that spirits reside above "focus 2"...However, there seem to have been accounts of people communing with them in focus2 and also having projections ABOVE 'focus2' where they actually have interacted with whichever ghost/guide/etc...

Im not necessarily attacking this theory, just analyzing what I've soaked up thus far.  maybe once he finishes this book will it explain a bit more.  

[Hans Solo]

I don't want to write it out my analogy, so I will quote Frank

Take a look at the sun. It rises in the east and sets in the west. You follow its movement from one point to the next and it appears to be revolving around us. This is obvious, because we can see it does. Unfortunately, it is us that is revolving around it.

Now, you project into the wider physical. I do not like using the term "real-time zone" because there is no such thing as "real" time and it is not a "zone". But we all kinda get what we mean so let's not complicate the issue on that score. So we project into the RTZ. You see yourself out of body. It is obvious you are out of body because you can see that you are. But what you are seeing is the equivalent of watching the sun revolving around the planet.

You have not actually gone "out" of body at all. You have simply taken a step "back", so to speak, from the front-line physical in terms of your current focus, into the wider physical. You cannot go "out" of someplace where you were never "in" in the first place. If someone moves their location from point a to point b, this logically presupposes the person was actually at point a to begin with. If I want to go out of one room into another room I have to initially be in that first room.

In terms of the body, we are not located in that first room, we are merely focused within it, as if from a distance, if you like. The analogy falls down rather quickly but imagine looking into room one from a distance through a telephoto lens, then you shift your focus to room two. In a sense, and only in a sense, this is what we are doing.

As I have said many times, people get body fixated to the extent where their whole sense of thinking becomes relative to it. But a body is merely an objective representation of the accumulation of a particular set of expectations regarding the enactment of certain types of actions within particular areas of consciousness. It holds no other purpose.

One of the most popular questions people ask me is, "Frank, what is the easiest way of me leaving my body?" You can't, there is no way at all you can leave your body. You can shift your focus of attention into the wider physical, you can shift it to Focus 2/3/4 but you cannot leave your body. There is no way you can step beyond the physical. The physical is an end result. Nothing exists outside of ourselves. Some people accept this but then start taking it way too far the other way and begin calling physical reality an illusion. I step short of that by a long way. Anyone who thinks physical reality is an illusion should walk into the nearest lamppost.

It's not that physical reality is an illusion, it's the notion of objectivity that is the illusion. To understand what I mean by that you need to study the way the subjective translates into the objective, in terms of energy. This knowledge can be gained from Focus 4 and Focus 2 experiences. Particularly in regard to the way our perception creates our reality.

I think of it as using an operating system such as Windows.  The physical is an open program on the desktop.  Most people spend there entire Wakeing lives working within that program.  When you "OBE" or phase you are simply minimizing that program and opening another to work in.  Most AP's work in the new program that has been dubbed Focus 2, however, if you minimize this one you can open a couple other ones, like Focus 3 and focus 4.  Death is closing the first program entirely.  The "RTZ" is a graphical user interface that looks like the first program, but is not.  So, when people think that it cannot be possible that everything is within us, they think we mean that ALL projection is done within the first program, and is just imagination or self delusion.  It is not.  When Frank talks about overlay experiences, he is talking (in my analogy) about the user of the computer toggling between two open windows. We would be the user of the operating system. Remember, Monroe said "We are more than our physical bodies".  I would say "We are more than our first program".

best I could do while at work

Han

[nicedreams]

he is not trying to create a cult but he sure sounds like a cult leader with all those ideas of his and him being a GOD and then he talks about humans like he is not a human but we all know he is it scares me you should read everything frank has posted and lose all those ideas of yours cuse its screwing up your head i dont think its healthy.

[Kazbadan]

TOmbo...you dont know who is Buddha?! without any offense, i think that its strange...but please i am not being ironic. maybe thats because you are from a non english country and in your tongue you have a different word.
Buddha was the creator of Buddhism, a religion. honestly i dont know how to translate buddhism or buddha to your language.

see you

[Vvid1012]

oh I see what you are saying Han.  That example does clear up a bit of confusion I had.

I was also wondering what happened to the other so-called 'planes'.  From countless sources, they describe our conciousness in terms of 7 planes/dimensions/focuses.  So I am assuming Frank is speaking of the first 4--the 4 he is familiar with.

[Frank]

Hi:

Our wider reality is apportioned into 4 Primary Areas that, in my Phasing Model of Consciousness, I label Focus 1 to Focus 4 inclusive. Within these 4 Primary Areas are many, many of what might be called "planes" of reality. No offence meant, but I always chuckle when I hear mystics and their followers parroting the usual astral is, "7 planes and 7 sub-planes" stuff. There are millions and millions of them!

The wider reality is humongous, it is infinite. I don't know where all this 7x7 talk originated. I guess it's just traditional mystics trying to encapsulate it all in terms they can understand so they can present it to their followers. Keeps your publisher happy I suppose. :)

For the record, a Focus of Attention is not a Dimension. A Dimension is something completely different. From what I can gather from some of the mystical bits and bobs I have read, a "plane" could possibly be a Focus of Attention. But a plane could not be a Primary Area.

Yours,
Frank

[Tombo]

TOmbo...you dont know who is Buddha?! without any offense, i think that its strange...but please i am not being ironic. maybe thats because you are from a non english country and in your tongue you have a different word.
Buddha was the creator of Buddhism, a religion. honestly i dont know how to translate buddhism or buddha to your language.

see you

I know very well what a Buddha is, I just wondered what sapphire thinks a Buddha is because she/he said:

I hope you are not shock, but the truth is many Christian and Catholic gods and goddesses. They are also Buddha and Bodhisattvas. They are able to function the same.

this is very strange since a Buddha does not reincarnate not even as a god (that's the whole point of Buddsm) so how can a god be a Buddha?

[Witan]

he is not trying to create a cult but he sure sounds like a cult leader with all those ideas of his and him being a GOD and then he talks about humans like he is not a human but we all know he is it scares me you should read everything frank has posted and lose all those ideas of yours cuse its screwing up your head i dont think its healthy.

This is exactly what I meant - he/she sounds like a cult leader, who cares he doesn`t recruit yet.
Sapphire - a cult isn't necessary a completely other religion. Go to a catholic/orthodox priest and tell him you are a God, let's see how he will react.
Frank - if you already posted in this thread, I would really like to see your opinion about this topic.

The story about you going to be judged Sapphire sounds so childish that I would rather join the hell than be with "Gods" like you in that kingdom of chocolate.

[gyver8448]

wow this is an intersting thread i dunno if any of you remember me but i havent been around in a LONG time well sapphire this is a very interesting thing going on here could you pm or something so we can talk?

[Witan]

Just remember this:
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire

[gyver8448]

who me?

[Kazbadan]

Tombo, now i see where you wanna get.

about being a buddha, i think that if a buddhist (be it bddha or not) want to help everyome, he can reeicarnate in order to to that.

the Dalai Lama for instance, its a reeicarnation of someone that wants to help others..for that reason he still being reincarnating.

just my opinion about buddhism and reeincarnation.

sorry for the off topic guys

[Sapphire-]

Before I answer any questions, I would like to give a message

[Sapphire-]

Hi, everyone,

[Sapphire-]

My first OBE i remember wanting to see heaven + hell.

[Sapphire-]

ok im going to work on manifesting a weapon with me that i can defend myself with.  Ill let you know when i do this because i really want to leave earth and see what else is out there.

[Frank]

Frank - if you already posted in this thread, I would really like to see your opinion about this topic.

Witan:

Erm, what can I say. I think Hans Solo kinda made the point.

It's all a bit "Focus 2" for my tastes.

Yours,
Frank