I tottally agree with you Clow. As I have givin a perfect example as to why he should not have locked it in my Topic titled James.S
-Aries
i fell a rebilion coming on. lol just kidding but clow is 100% right u should explain ur actions james
Another thought: No one said ANY thing about ki balls or DBZ in the rise to action topic. And there is TONS of other topics regarding Demons, wars and energy. Why didnt you decide to lock all of them? Really what made 'Rise to Action' so much different and worse then the others?
-Aries
[Edit] I dont feel a "rebellion" so to speak, but I would like to lodge a complaint if possible... does anyone know who I might contact for that?
Read this!
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9837
and lock this forum please.
i was only joking bout the rebillion[:D] i would never rebeal against my fav site[8D]
Also James what is the name of this cartoon that has a war with demons.
im 15 and i think i am acting mature by standing uo to a mod who can ban me[8)]
Yes but wouldnt that just prove how Immature he acctually is banning people for stating a point.
He can ban us if he wants, but what would that prove? Only that he can further abuse his power...
I like this site and would not rebel against it. I just want to see Moderators use there power more wisely.
-Aries
Nicley put
he must know hes wrong, coz he aint replied. were not out to get u james we just want the post reopend, also just because u dont agree dosent meen u can take down a post, thats not cool[:(]
ignore this post.
~kakkarot
Look, here's the breakdown of this. So much calamity over an event that has relatively no chance of taking place 8 years and 11 months in the future is your major argument. Ours is simply to THINK for a second as to the insanity of what you are suggesting. Sure, you could be predicting the future, but you predict it in such a way as to basically imitate Inuyasha 100%. Don't deny that you watch it either, your avatar is of the Hanyou Inuyasha, Clow.
Our viewpoint on this is that it seems once an anime becomes popular, suddenly all the "kids" here have a theory related to it. We figured this out already with Dragonball Z and Yu Yu Hakusho and the energy forum closure.
Well in 9th grade students generally take World History and eventually learn about the Mayan Calendar, and how it ends in 2012. Since you've said you are already old enough to be in or have finished 9th grade, I would assume you know this. Assuming you do, it would be relatively easy to use that to correlate with an anime you just love. That's my theory anyway.
I ask that you calm down until a decision has been made by the collective "vote" of the moderators. Stop making more and more topics explaining your same rant again and again, please.
~Squeek
sorry i would have, but i was ticked because i was in the middle of a discusion, and i am glad he cant ban me[^]
seeing that u asked nicly and dident just block it i will not create any more topics(cross my heart and hope to die)[:D]
ok, never mind my previous topic: i just read why he closed the topic.
and i agree with him. discussing a war is one thing, but trying to use these forums to recruit people to fight in the fictional battle is another. these forums are not a recruiting ground for anything warlike, and other topics have been stopped when they started trying to get people to do something against an idea or a person. so no, you people aren't unique.
so stop whining, stop recruiting, and show a little maturity (how many topics have now been started for the same discussion?)
~kakkarot
well i think this is just stupid. So does James not think Demons are real now. If he doesn't then really he shouldn't be on this forum. Shouldn't even be a mod if he does stuff like this. Locks a post cos he dont believe or dont agree. Oh real mature he is. *sets our timeline so it was loads of years ago, but with computers*, *makes thread* The light bulb WILL be invented! James says: no it wont. *thread locked*
kakarot u should read all of the post and not just the first page[|)]
quote:
Originally posted by dawnbringer
well i think this is just stupid. So does James not think Demons are real now. If he doesn't then really he shouldn't be on this forum. Shouldn't even be a mod if he does stuff like this. Locks a post cos he dont believe or dont agree. Oh real mature he is. *sets our timeline so it was loads of years ago, but with computers*, *makes thread* The light bulb WILL be invented! James says: no it wont. *thread locked*
LOL the funniest thing i have heard all year(all 7 days)
quote:
Originally posted by Squeek
Well in 9th grade students generally take World History and eventually learn about the Mayan Calendar, and how it ends in 2012.
~Squeek
I'm in 11th grade and i didn't know that.
shut the hell up. james is a highly respected member of these forums and has shown WORTH in becoming the moderator that he is now. he's not just some immature kid who thinks it's "kewl" to lock topics just cause he doesn't agree with them.
i've RARELY over the past two years not thought highly of james for his insight and his knowledge of things, as well as his suggested ideas.
you people don't even know him very well and you criticize him just cause he did something you don't like. THAT'S real mature.... not.
~kakkarot
are you saying what he did was mature kakkarot
i dident say i dident respect james, i just thought that this one time it was not a fair dimissal of a topic. most people are peved because he closed down my topic asking for an explination.
notice dawnbringer that there are still topics about the supposed war that AREN'T locked. why did he lock that one then? cause they were using it to recruit people. did you even read the reason he locked the thread?
~kakkarot
Well then first time I've seen Kakkarot lose his temper. Sure he is very highly respected. That doesnt mean he is wrong. Also just because I'm a kid does not mean I am Immature or let my Immagination run wild. Also just because i like the show Inu-yasha doesnt mean that that is the reason that I believe in 2012. As a matter of fact I believed that the demon war would happen a year before I ever heard of Inu-yasha.
You need to learn that Just because there kids on this forum you can't just say stuff and act like it defies our way of thinking. Your saying kid like it's an insult. Many kids are much smarter than adults.
he only asked for people to join him a couple of times, but the last 2 pages were a very good discustion about the *what if war*, plus is there a rule about recruting? and how does that hurt people if they want to join a demon fighting club[?]. kakarot i also find the thought of a club stupid but the discussion was still a valid one.
Why are you guys making a big deal about it. It's just a stupid forum.
if this forum is stupid why are you on it
The Disscusion was more than that.
neo: there are still other topics for the discussion.
clow: "Also just because I'm a kid does not mean I am Immature or let my Immagination run wild" you're right. but that doesn't mean that you aren't being immature.
"You need to learn that Just because there kids on this forum you can't just say stuff and act like it defies our way of thinking." when a person acts immaturely, regardless of their age, i think of them as a child (since i don't bother to try and remember how old people are IRL, i try to link their age in my mind to the maturity they show or don't show).
"Your saying kid like it's an insult. Many kids are much smarter than adults." i'm sure you mean, many kids are allowed to believe they are smarter than adults. some kids are really smarter, but those are few and far betweeen, not common.
~kakkarot
Doesn't it make you guys immature because your crying over a stupid thing come on grow up life goes on.
well said kakarot bout the kids and all, but i am annoyed with james because when i posted a topic asking him y he did it he gave a half butt reply and blocked it, that got up my nose and this all started, so it aint realy bout the post anymore
well, true neo, but i'm getting flustered myself with all the little kids who come on here, make something up and then say it's real because "anything is possible and if you don't believe that then you are closed minded and don't know what you are talking about" and making silly comments like that to back up their beliefs.
and to really explain why their ideas are wrong, without hurting their feelings, would take up an immense amount of time (becase we'd also have to make sure it is written in such a way that the younglings who don't understand much about metaphysics can understand us).
and that is another point: there are lots of people who get into one or two aspects of metaphysics and then try to validate their ideas by bringing in things they've barely even heard of. how many topics have you seen in the past few months talking about opening the third eye so these little kids could see demons?
or how about using ki balls to blow everything up? these kids hear one or two things and then let their imaginations run wild and actually forget that imagination is not reality.
and to try and tell this to ever kid who doesn't understand is more tiresome than it's worth.
that is why the half-butted response from james, and that is why i'm not going to be giving such a full response to anyone else either.
~kakkarot
Now I am also getting mad Kakkarot could you try to remember it is a common belief and no one just came out of the blue and felt like making up a belief. There are so many sites and books dedicated to the Idea no one made it up.
I have to say this is a very pathetic display,
you people haven't even graduated highschool and your arguing with someone prolly more than twice your age,
and another thing that topic was F**king useless you had no actual facts backing any of the statements you where claiming
not only that but you begun fantasizing in "what-if" scenarios like "IMGOINAFIGHTINTHE WAR EVENIF I DIE!!!!"
you are obsessed with this roleplaying game you are making up stories and letting your imagination take over,
james didn't explain why he didn't agree with your views because your views have no validity
Take Kakkarot for instance he prolly was one of the original "demon war2012" people, like 3-4 yrs ago, when the first wave of them errupted from various ki-sites and now that he's realized the difference between reality and fiction he can't but ridicule your obnoxious silly beliefs
not only that but your stupid ONe sentence postings like
"Im goina kill so many demons--clow"
"yeh that'd be cool--aries"
"totally cool -neo"
relay no actual information and only cause the reader to become less intelligent than they where before they had read it
Im not saying that there isn't any validity to your 2012 theory, Im just saying that most of the "facts" that you are interpreting are nothing more than Heresay and chinese whispers
I grow weary of those who have anime-based characters for avatars- i see a common trend that will no doubt continue to spread ignorance and stupidity to this site
JAMES is a moderator he has a duty to keep the information on this site from becoming mis-information- he is like the anti-propaghanda operator, he makes sure that you're stupid brain dead ideas get the attention and criticism they deserve, but he makes sure that the sickness of your stupidity doesn't spread like a horrible mutating virus throughout the forums
this was one main reason why thr sub-forum got closed down
not because of ki-balls but because of stupid arguement posts like this, that only cause attacks on people,
but when you are so stubborn to see the rational reality of the situation, I hope you can go cry over it
WOW...look at how many pages this topic has reached in just a scant few hours..
Karrarot and Volcomstone ...Well said my friends! And I am 15yrs older than you two, and you both said it a heck of alot better than I could!
Like I said on another post a few minutes ago, before seeing this one....age does seem to be a factor here. (may the reaming of my arse commence)
Guess there is not much more I can say without making you think of me as a parent, telling you to keep your elbows off the table while eating.
Nay.[;)]
I think both of the factions here are wrong! *hides*
Anyways, to make this seem like more than just a random message aimed at greed, I'm going to say to everyone involved to take an objective viewpoint of where y'all are. This should've been taken to PMs I think, but since it hasn't, notice the emotional buildup going on. You're wasting energy on the wrong issues guys, do I have to waste mine to prove that? 2012 may or may not come, simply because I believe that even if you can see the future, that's only 1 possible path for the physical, but that's besides the point. I don't want the people who might be defending my future bickering about something as trivial as a locked topic...make a new one involving some of the same things, and if you're still mad, go blow off some steam whacking a pillow into oblivion or use it to test your discipline level.
Hi all,
Geez, turn my back for a few hours and look what happens!
Firstly, Thanks Volcomstone and Nay for your words, and thanks for being the ones that keep a sense of humor.
Kakkarot - Thanks for your kind support, man. [^] In the couple of years I've been here you've been a big inspiration. Especially when it comes to subjects about energy I consider you one most knowledgable and experienced people here. I've always regarded your thoughts and comments VERY highly!
OK, explanation time for those who seem to need it.....
The reason the topic "A rise to action" was locked -
In less than an hour and a half, Aries, Neo, Clow and GothicDragonX filled up two pages worth of pointless patting each other on the back and psyching each other up. Hence my comment that this is a discussion forum, not a chat room. You'd all turned the topic into something that was not worth anybody else's time reading! Add to that the fact that there were also two other threads going on about the same topic. If there was some actual intelligent discussion going on about the topic, I wouldn't have locked it.
Why I locked Neo's thread –
Neo, try and convince me that you weren't going to drag out the discussion ad-nauseum ! I stated the reason why I locked it and I wasn't interested in discussing the matter any further. What did you want? A 5000 word essay on my reasons for locking "A rise to action"? How about instead I give it to you the answer in two words: MODERATOR'S PEROGATIVE!
Clow,
Lighten up man! I've seen a number of your posts recently and you seem to have lost all your sense of humor. If losing your sense of humor is what it takes to train for some future war then COUNT ME OUT! You're all taking this stuff WAY too seriously, to the point where you're getting all bent out of shape when someone comes along that doesn't believe in it like you do. The way some of you guys have been coming across about this war is it's no longer a belief for you, it's an OBSESSION!
Wait till you've been on this planet a little longer and you'll see just how often some group who claims to know the future predicts some horrible end to the earth or life as we know it. Thousands if not Millions of people were convinced that we weren't going to see past the year 2000. So tell me how these 'prophecies' you hold so passionately to differ from them?
There's been a lot of people on this planet studying end of the world prophecies a lot longer than you've been around, and they haven't gotten it right yet, so what makes you so sure you have? Besides, nobody can know the future because it hasn't happened yet! Yeah, it's a real simple statement, but even to the most complex theories of quantum mechanics it still holds true. Think about it!
About the use of the bible as proof for this war :
If any of you have actually read the bible you'd know that all the end times stuff in Revelations it tied in with the return of Jesus. I don't know how many misguided preachers I've heard try to put a date on this. The bible itself has something quite clear to say about this:
Mark13:32 But of that day or of that hour no one knows, neither the angels who are in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father.
Anyway, I could go on a great deal more here, but I don't want to bore anybody to death, and I've got a headache, so I'll leave it at that for now.
James.
I have never been so angry and entertained by a bunch of children in my life. I'm 17 for those who don't know. And i'm looking back at most of the kids here and thinking, no wonder "grown-ups" don't respect our age. No wonder they keep saying, "Kids these days...". I have personally been offended by the way these children spell and talk to people, which is with the UPMOST disrespect!
I'm sad to say that i would even post something like this, about something like this. Please, i'm not saying that i'm mature, hell, you be the judge of that, but please please please, grow up. If you really can't take a punch to your own viewpoints, good luck with life. I really wish you luck and easy sailing, cuz even a ripple will tip that boat of yours.
~ivan
Good speech James S. I agree to everything you just said.I don't know why people are lieing and believing there own lies.
Theres only a couble people in this site i respect that will be you (James S), Kakkarot, Seek and Fat Turkey.
I didn't make ssjoku's list?! [:O][:O][:O][:O][:O][:O][:O][:O][:O]*feigns overdone melodramatic shock*
maybe next time[:D]LOL!
Xander
Ok, now I see your point James. They did put up those two pages and those kind of topics, no they never really do get anywhere since we don't have that kind of information yet. Now, a question. What if later, we actually have information on some kind of catastrophe and as long as it doesn't turn into some kind of chat, then we would be free to disscuss what might happen with this and share ideas? Is this correct?
quote:
Originally posted by Clow
Now I am also getting mad Kakkarot could you try to remember it is a common belief and no one just came out of the blue and felt like making up a belief. There are so many sites and books dedicated to the Idea no one made it up.
you're right clow. there wasn't a single person who made it up. it was two or three (my memory wanes on the issue and the energy forum is now gone so i can't even reference the specific thread). and it wasn't three or four years ago, it was about one and a half, and it was just made up because a few people had some "bad feelings" about some future date and someone else just came up with 2012.
and i was not a part of it (volcomestone [;)]) but i did witness it's beginning here, then it's inception on ki-teachings, and then it's move to the astral society and veritas. that is why i think it is so sad; it is based upon conjecture, wishful thinking, and just plain bullsh*t.
there is no substance or truth behind it, and if you kids who think there IS can't even come up with one shred of GOOD evidence, then why bother believing it? people have said in other places that this war is prophecied in "all" religions and holy books and texts, yet they have not given even a single quote or example from one of those religions, holy books, or texts. 'tis sad [:(].
ok, i'm done now [|)].
~kakkarot
If the discussion is topic-locked, and you feel it is unfair, it is very easy to take the discussion off-forum. There's mailing list, alternate forums, usenet newsgroups, yahoo discussion groups, and web-page annotations (blog-like). In all of them James can't lift a finger to stop you. Depending on your strength of view and how much effort you are willing to put into it you can discuss/recruit/inform at least as much as you do here.
I don't call it abuse of power until entire catagories of threads are nuked (not just frozen) on the basis of the poster's identity, then banning the poster, then poster's IP, anyone who mentions the poster, or the original issue. That's not happening here.
Let's face it. Some threads need to be frozen. We've all seen it - out-of-control threads, threads severely off-topic, trolls, misinformation, and newbie chum (aka munchkins). It's the moderators job to keep the forum neat and clean, removing these annoyances, and *anything* else that annoys the *majority* of the forum readers. Performing that job, while it my annoy you to the nth degree, keeps the forum stable for the majority.
Remember the saying "Do not meddle in the affairs of moderators (or dragons), because you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup."
quote:
James S.
Besides, nobody can know the future because it hasn't happened yet! Yeah, it's a real simple statement, but even to the most complex theories of quantum mechanics it still holds true. Think about it!
Wow, what a limited view! The future has
happened. There is no past, present or future. I can't go 100% with your statement regarding that nobody can know the future. It is
possible and there have been prophecys that have come true.
However, I think that your missing the point. It doesn't have to be a prophecy as much as it is a prediction. For example, I can most likely be correct in predicting that if the Earth gets a few hundred million more miles closer to the Sun that society would come to an end. Perhaps the Mayans predicted that when the age of the aquarius, when that certain alignment of cosmic energies occured life would change in a way we can only fathom.
I've always believed there was true science in the occult, that it wasn't so
magical as people belived. I think it has rules, and ways to learn how it operates in relations to the physical plane. What if this certain arragement/alignment of celestial energies has some unknown effect on our astral bodies? Many credible Astral Projection authors believe that even that Earth's (low powered) magneto sphere has a moderate effect on projection.
Power lines and other forms of ELF and EMF radation has had tremendus effects on projectors. Eygptians built pyramids to channel higher energies (in my opinion, I cannot prove or back up this statement) underground running water intersections are thought to be energy havens, crystals, rocks, etc are also believed by some to possess simliar qualities. So whats to say that cosmic energy of some sort couldn't pull the (magnetic? electro magnetic? energy?) fabric of astral worlds (how about the physical plane and a negative plane) together. Maybe it creates a rift between worlds. I think it's possible, albiet I always find it unprobable that the "end" is coming.
The one thing that gets me about this is it seems so illogical. Yet deep down I feel it right. Empathically I know this war is coming. This theory seems like it fits with my own experiences.
The world is coming back to lost knowledge. This entire metaphysical movement is proof that things are changing spiritualy for mankind. It's only growing, it saddens me to think one day this knowledge will no longer regarded with awe and respect but of common knowledge. It reminds me when I lost the Internet to commerical exploitation. *sighs* Even I have been "training" for the war now. But I'm not on mankinds side. Let the demons come and purge it's disease known as humanity.
Maybe this age thing with all this immaturity and respect for your elders has gone a little too far. Aren't forums meant to be a place where you can talk about anything and remain faceless? I don't know, maybe there's a problem because people keep saying it will be the end of the world in 2012 or a war in 2012. Maybe we should just call it the topic formerly known as the war of 2012[:P]. Yeah, that sounds good. Then whenever you see the topic you can read it or make a sneer and not read it. Awesome! I think it just might be crazy enough to work.
I guess I am not respectable enough for ssjoku's list either.[B)] *sniffles* I thought I brought something special to this forum *sniffles*.
<long pause> Hi, this is Khuli's mom. Khuli is in the corner crying right now, so I'm just going to press this post new reply point. *click* Ok, is that it. Why I am I still typing? I don't get it. Oh, its because I need one of these, right[:P].
ok, i'm not quite done yet: hale bop cult.
(and i've found some of the original threads near the beginning of the whole "demon war" thing, i'll be posting them later so that everyone can see how it evolved from people wondering about the future and having beliefs about it, to some people starting to say that the future "is" going to be full of war.)
~kakkarot
For all you little soldier boys out there, here's an example of an intelligent argument that's worth discussing:
quote:
originally posted by Steel Hawk
Wow, what a limited view! The future has happened. There is no past, present or future. I can't go 100% with your statement regarding that nobody can know the future. It is possible and there have been prophecys that have come true.
However, I think that your missing the point. It doesn't have to be a prophecy as much as it is a prediction. For example, I can most likely be correct in predicting that if the Earth gets a few hundred million more miles closer to the Sun that society would come to an end. Perhaps the Mayans predicted that when the age of the aquarius, when that certain alignment of cosmic energies occured life would change in a way we can only fathom.
I've always believed there was true science in the occult, that it wasn't so magical as people belived. I think it has rules, and ways to learn how it operates in relations to the physical plane. What if this certain arragement/alignment of celestial energies has some unknown effect on our astral bodies? Many credible Astral Projection authors believe that even that Earth's (low powered) magneto sphere has a moderate effect on projection.
Power lines and other forms of ELF and EMF radation has had tremendus effects on projectors. Eygptians built pyramids to channel higher energies (in my opinion, I cannot prove or back up this statement) underground running water intersections are thought to be energy havens, crystals, rocks, etc are also believed by some to possess simliar qualities. So whats to say that cosmic energy of some sort couldn't pull the (magnetic? electro magnetic? energy?) fabric of astral worlds (how about the physical plane and a negative plane) together. Maybe it creates a rift between worlds. I think it's possible, albiet I always find it unprobable that the "end" is coming.
The one thing that gets me about this is it seems so illogical. Yet deep down I feel it right. Empathically I know this war is coming. This theory seems like it fits with my own experiences.
The world is coming back to lost knowledge. This entire metaphysical movement is proof that things are changing spiritualy for mankind. It's only growing, it saddens me to think one day this knowledge will no longer regarded with awe and respect but of common knowledge. It reminds me when I lost the Internet to commerical exploitation. *sighs* Even I have been "training" for the war now. But I'm not on mankinds side. Let the demons come and purge it's disease known as humanity.
While I agree that in the wider view past, present and future are all parts of the whole, while in this dimension we're limited to experiencing this in a strictly linear manner, so for us it still holds true that the future hasn't happened yet.
This is one of the things that's come to my mind about this whole war situation, and why I really dislike people speaking with an authority as if its a done deal.
I've considered this when thinking about possible knowledge of some far off war that may have been channelled from beings whose dimensional state allows them to see our timeline as a whole. The only thing here is that although it might be possible for some beings, and indeed some tallented precognitives to be able to see this war as a future possibility, like any future event, it can still only remain nothing more than a possibility.
Consider our timeline as being like a river that feeds into many different tributaries. At a point in the future very close to the observer, the possibilities are fairly limited, so the timeline is like a wide flowing path with few diverging paths. As the observer looks futher into the future, that main path splits off more and more, until they're looking far ahead at mass of different paths, ever splitting into smaller ones, which split again and again.
At some far distant point there is possibly a path that leads to a to an event like this 2012 war, but the further back from it you're looking, the smaller the probability is that you'll end up travelling that exact path. When someone is given the ability to see a future event, either by way of channelling outside help, or through precognition, they are only ever able to see one possible path.
Unfortunately a lot of people place great faith in the ability of the future being able to be accurately predicted because they have witnessed a fortune teller, prophet or precog that's accurately hit on an event who's path we managed to travel on. The other 99% of time when a prediction like this comes true for an individual, its usually through self fulfillment of that prediction.
Regards,
James.
well, i found some of the topics surrounding the "demon war of 2012" appearance. but i couldn't find the exact one that i'm thinking of (cause i'm pretty darned sure it was in the energy forum, *sigh*. oh well [|)]).
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5230&SearchTerms=demon
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=362&SearchTerms=demon
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6726&whichpage=2&SearchTerms=demon
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4882&SearchTerms=demon
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5230&whichpage=1&SearchTerms=demon
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3605&whichpage=2&SearchTerms=demon
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3647
here was one that was similar to the thread i would have liked to find: http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3499&whichpage=2&SearchTerms=demon
and there was another one that i found in my search, but i didn't grab the url and i'm tired now (it being 2am) so that's all i'm going to post.
as you can all see, it just kind of evolved from a what-if scenario.
good night everyone ^_^
~kakkarot
ps. and on a side note: i found this little jewel of nostalgia during my research ^_^
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4107
we can now look back on the event and say for certain that auraseer's friend's mom's prediction was a "miss".
(panabelle's post is just so funny still ^_^ )
thank you james for all of your explinations, thats all i wanted. just for the record i was not evan contiplating the idea to join gothicdragons club. all i wanted was a vaild reason for your actions, and now i have it. again thanks for replying in a mature and well mannerd way[;)]
No probs Neo [:)]
I was feeling somewhat ticked off at the time and I probably could have explained it better.
James.
lol, well we all do sometimes so i cant blame you for that, can i?[^]
Okay I would like to step in now... I am new okay and I hope I don't kicked off because this is my fav site.... HERE GOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Both James and the people under the post acted rashly and immature. Okay James should have given a better reason but then again don't try to recruit people and don't force your beliefs on others a belief is exactly what it says it is an opinion. people get emotional about beleifs and will fight for them I sota have my own but I just say them at then let it go if there are questions I answer them. (politely) I do not yell (or I try not to) in my opinion James should have not locked the post without a warning to calm down and take it easy. But the topic did get very heated I respect James posistion and know it takes alot of work and restraint. Also you should not flame people for their beliefs (everyone) but just because you dissagree does not mean you should get mad and do something uncalled for I have my beliefs about 2012 but I just say here is my belief take it or leave it I don't tell other people they are stupid and childish for their beliefs. I have stated my opininon and I hope that we can all just move past this issue. I appreiciate all the people that read this and take some of this to heart if you don't like what I have said I apologize if I have offended you in any way. I do not defend either party. Thank you...
Let me start by saying, wow, this thread grew very fast! And this may be alittle long.
Secondly: Hi, my name is Aries. I am 19, and graduated early at the age of 17. I am not stupid, or immature, I have a open mind, and do not try and push my own believes on anyone. I have not bashed anyone, flamed anyone etc etc, I do not make fun of people for there believes.
Volcomstone "I have to say this is a very pathetic display,
you people haven't even graduated highschool and your arguing with someone prolly more than twice your age,
and another thing that topic was F**king useless you had no actual facts backing any of the statements you where claiming
not only that but you begun fantasizing in "what-if" scenarios like "IMGOINAFIGHTINTHE WAR EVENIF I DIE!!!!"
you are obsessed with this roleplaying game you are making up stories and letting your imagination take over,
not only that but your stupid ONe sentence postings like
"Im goina kill so many demons--clow"
"yeh that'd be cool--aries"
"totally cool -neo"
relay no actual information and only cause the reader to become less intelligent than they where before they had read it"
Volcom, you dont know me, and you have no justification to make such statements.. my and everyone elses beliefes are there own business. You and everyone else that are calling us stupid are no better then the 12 year olds you are mocking...
I respect James S, he has valuble input, and I dont hate him or think he is stupid, I think that he shouldnt have closed the topic thats all. Someone can be a respected person and still be wrong.
As far as learning about the mayans in school, and getting all our ideas from anime. That is BS, I didnt learn anything about the mayans in school, and I have said nothing that has been a idea based of an anime.
In closing. I think all of you need to rethink your statements towards me and the people that posted in Rise to Action, sure there has been lots of thins on it in the past, but IM A NEW MEMBER. And I dont intend to search thrue thousands of posts looking for info, frankly I dont have the time.
Most of you have personally offended me by posting such things as volcom did above. If that was your goal then congrats.. but if your trying to defend James then I think you need to rethink your strategy.
-Aries
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Originally posted by Aries
Let me start by saying, wow, this thread grew very fast! And this may be alittle long.
Secondly: Hi, my name is Aries. I am 19, and graduated early at the age of 17. I am not stupid, or immature, I have a open mind, and do not try and push my own believes on anyone. I have not bashed anyone, flamed anyone etc etc, I do not make fun of people for there believes.
Volcomstone "I have to say this is a very pathetic display,
you people haven't even graduated highschool and your arguing with someone prolly more than twice your age,
and another thing that topic was F**king useless you had no actual facts backing any of the statements you where claiming
not only that but you begun fantasizing in "what-if" scenarios like "IMGOINAFIGHTINTHE WAR EVENIF I DIE!!!!"
you are obsessed with this roleplaying game you are making up stories and letting your imagination take over,
not only that but your stupid ONe sentence postings like
"Im goina kill so many demons--clow"
"yeh that'd be cool--aries"
"totally cool -neo"
relay no actual information and only cause the reader to become less intelligent than they where before they had read it"
Volcom, you dont know me, and you have no justification to make such statements.. my and everyone elses beliefes are there own business. You and everyone else that are calling us stupid are no better then the 12 year olds you are mocking...
I respect James S, he has valuble input, and I dont hate him or think he is stupid, I think that he shouldnt have closed the topic thats all. Someone can be a respected person and still be wrong.
As far as learning about the mayans in school, and getting all our ideas from anime. That is BS, I didnt learn anything about the mayans in school, and I have said nothing that has been a idea based of an anime.
In closing. I think all of you need to rethink your statements towards me and the people that posted in Rise to Action, sure there has been lots of thins on it in the past, but IM A NEW MEMBER. And I dont intend to search thrue thousands of posts looking for info, frankly I dont have the time.
Most of you have personally offended me by posting such things as volcom did above. If that was your goal then congrats.. but if your trying to defend James then I think you need to rethink your strategy.
-Aries
well said[;)], it is Volcomstone and other closed mind people who put this forum to shame[V]
I've been watching the thread with a watchful eye as usual, and all I can find are contradictions and hypocrasies. No need to list them, go ahead and find them all for yourself.
But what I will say is that this heated battle/debate/discussion we've got going on here isn't about your belief system of the future, it's entirely about how you go about it! As Kakkarot pointed out, there are multitudes of topics that have been abandonded, simply to have another new one placed on top of it. Once either side sees it they either say their good comments about it or their bad comments about it. And trust me, that's the only thing that happens. It's always a debate.
Here's what I'm thinking we could do to resolve this. Either there is a "truce" of sorts where a singular topic is kept open concerning this and never any more, a chat room is made available for you, or you go to another forum.
And I apologize for any spelling / grammar comments I may have made. I just wish my debate would be heard by more people and they would start to realize just how annoying it is to me to see English demeaned like that.
~Squeek
PS - Don't reply with one liners, anybody. PLEASE.
Hey man Im not trying to start a war, I am trying to make it known that we were not talking about DBZ and Anime. I personally have been belittled and treated like some little child that doesnt belong here. Why? Because I was talking about the Future? A possibility of a War?
Nah F*CK that! They have no reason to treat me or anyone else on this Forum in that manner. I have treated everyone with alot of respect, and have not stepped out of line once. I have done nothing to give them reason that I am a 10 year old just toying with all of you.
I dont want to go to another forum but Squeek, if these a-holes dont f*cking shape up and show some respect then I will. Not like it will matter to many of you though.
I would personally like an Apology from the Jackasses like Volcomstone, and the others that said similar remarks. Is that to much to ask?
-Aries
Just a thought, coz frankly I'm over all this now (short attention span you see [;)])....
Could we possibly start getting back to discussing the topics rather than beating each other up over who's upset who?
Personal arguments don't go anywhere except from bad to worse. Threads with these kind of arguments will be the ones to get locked. Even if they start out dealing with important issues, topics that degrade into personal or tag-team bitching sessions are a waste of space and will be axed.
Finally, in agreement with what Squeek said - its not about your beliefs, its about how you go about it! That's what matters here.
Regards,
James.
I will go back to discussing things, however I think I will have to be more wary in posting my feelings now. As to not be ridiculed for no reason...
-Aries
Aries, you should never be concerned about being ridiculed unless of course your posts are non-sensical. Or when you have to defame others to stand up for your beliefs. Disagreements occur but the people I respect are the ones that deal with it in a logical and curtious manner. It is those that get defensive that tend to irk me the most because they then start to attack others. No one on this site should ever have to be worried about having to take crap from someone because of their opinions. If it does occur that is a job for the moderators to take care of. This site was created to allow all sorts of discussions to take place with out fear of harassment. It is a sad situation when it occurs but when it does we all just need to take a step back and figure out what we can change to prevent it from happening again.
Respectfully,
Link's Shadow
P.S. I realize how difficult it is to keep this site under control and deal with all the backlash these situations create and I just wanted to say thanks for all the time and effort the mods and admin put into this site.
I didnt read any posts past colcoms because I had to defend myself here. You are a liar I would like you to add the hyperlink to your next post where I said I was going to kill so many demons. I never over estimate myself. It's against my morals. Now please bring that thread up.
James you have brought up many good points. As to I think I may have been losing my sense of humor. I don't think it is an Obsession though. Also I am getting bent out of shape when a person who doent believe it comes along and starts adding personal attacks. Such as Volcomstone. I mean come on man were the words brain dead really nesscary. Anyways yes i believe you may have been right. But could you people who don't believe in 2012 go and find someone else to verbaly attack. I have seen topics about Buddism and Saintanism. I don't go into those topic and start trhowing around mean words just because the devil is not my god and I don't believe in past lives. That's why the pot is titles that was Immature.
"I didnt read any posts past colcoms because I had to defend myself here. You are a liar I would like you to add the hyperlink to your next post where I said I was going to kill so many demons. I never over estimate myself. It's against my morals. Now please bring that thread up"
Did you mean to say "columns" instead of "colcoms"?? Just hush, are you seriously offended by words on a forum? They don't know you and you don't know them...if they make wrong accusations to you then just let it go! Big deal they misquoted you, it happens.
Again..."But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you." -Matthew
~ivan
Acctualy i meant to say Volcom(short for Volcomstone) sorry for the typo. Also yes I am offeneded. If you walked into your favorite fast food restraunt and somone walked up to you. Stated in a very loud voice homany pimpels you had on your nose. And meant to hurt you with that remark. Would that make you feel bad or imbaressed. Ecspecailly if the remark was false but no one could tell.
I wouldn't be offended at all, because its not true.
~ivan
It might not be true but people believe that it is true. Anyway it's not the point I see things in a different perspective than you.
The point I am trying to get across is that don't you even think that it's silly you got offended by someone however many miles away from you, which basically knew very little about you, and which basically you know very little about him? In this whole experience you can easily see the high ego's of people at work, defending and attacking.
One more thing that gets me is that some people here TRY and gain respect on an online Forum. Why? I don't understand this at all...do you really need ego food that bad as to take it online? I'm sure, no, i hope, most of you see that obtaining respect on a Forum is not why you joined, but you joined this forum to learn.
I've had enough of this topic.
~ivan
Yes I will also discontinue the arguement. As I said before you see things your way I see things my way.
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Originally posted by James S
Firstly, Thanks Volcomstone and Nay for your words, and thanks for being the ones that keep a sense of humor.
Kakkarot - Thanks for your kind support, man. [^] In the couple of years I've been here you've been a big inspiration. Especially when it comes to subjects about energy I consider you one most knowledgable and experienced people here. I've always regarded your thoughts and comments VERY highly!
Good job complimenting the people that sided with you! [}:)] Also, I've been hearing so much praise that it makes me want to puke. A person shouldn't be judged by their reputation.
quote:
Originally posted by James S
nobody can know the future because it hasn't happened yet!
To people living in the past, the future has not yet happened, yet we are still here. Hopes of going back into time would be worthless because once we were in the past, the present has not yet happened. Time is not easy to explain. In my opinion, it's all one big paradox. Just like if you went back in time and killed your dad before you were born, you would cease to exist, therefore making it impossible to kill your father in the first place. But then you WOULD kill your father. It goes in a circle.
About the Anime thing, yeah I like Anime. Yeah, I'm obsessed with Anime. But that doesn't mean that I go around believing everything I read or see. The vampiric facts in Hellsing, maybe, but I know that I can't fall down an old well and end up in Feudal Japan.
And for the age=maturity thing, that's not true. I'm 13 going on 14 and I can be a lot more mature than some highschool seniors. Other times I am immiture, everyone is at least once in their lifetime.
Well, i'm bored. Bye.
-Pai
Well I'm personally sick of all this arguing on this board. This used to be a much calmer and welcoming place before all the younger members joined. Unfortunatly I only had a couple of weeks here before that happened.
I'm ashamed to be associated with the younger members (being only 16 myself) and I think it's about time you all just quit with all the fighting.
If you want people to respect you and treat you as a mature person, act mature! Arguing only makes people think less of you.
Syke,
I appreciate what you're saying - but remember that when you look past crap threads like this one, astralpulse is actually a great site.
Just learn to ignore immature threads / posts and try not to get drawn in ! If we all do the same, astralpulse will be a better place.
Mark
Thanks for commenting, Pai [:)].
~kakkarot
I already Said that I'm done arguing though I might join in more arguments. Arguments arent bad they help you learn things. Only when they get spiteful and personal do they turn bad.
Hi,
I am new here but not new to this subject. The whole 2012 thing is wrong it was just one prediction which may or may not happen, if you want to believe the 2012 prophecy then trace other prophecys done by the same person and see if they came true.
I already do this and by my research it all kicked off in 1996 and is leading towards 2009 when it will be over. I also have predictions with over 295 Premonitions and 14 Predictions happened in 2 years this Month and i have seen an attack on england which many psychics believe from there own predictions and research that is most likely will happen some point this year or early 2005 but there is supposed to be an event worse than 9/11 in 2004.
Thanks
Twilight
I think it's already happened Twilight.
Wasn't it Janet Jackson flashing her boob at the superbowl?
At least the way the media have gone on about it it was!
James.
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Originally posted by James S
I think it's already happened Twilight.
Wasn't it Janet Jackson flashing her boob at the superbowl?
At least the way the media have gone on about it it was!
James.
Pretentious Amerikans. So sexually repressed you get excited over a boobie. I think you'd like England, lots of boobies there.
Jesica
Yes, us Americans are showy aren't we? I thought it was funny, and also thought she did it to take the attention away from her brother[:O] OH..but that is a whole other topic..[^]
Nay [;)]
It's funny that here in Aus, we heard absolutely nothing about the game itsself (not too surprising as Australia doesn't follow Gridiron), but youd think Janet had just unveiled a weapon of mass destruction.[B)]
Yes, it's all good fun until someone looses an eye [;)]
[:)]
James.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!....OUCH!
Nay
Not getting your way James so you lock a topic. Frankley I don't remeber anyone posting anything about ki balls. Infact I think many other discussions about 2012 have gone worse. People talking of fighting on front lines and crap or bragging that they could take a hundred demons. You also locked a topic that someone was asking you why you locked that topic.
I will answer that question here. James didnt want to have to explain that he did not agree with the 2012 Theory. So he locked it. Really james was it hurting you. I remeber a while back seeing someone start a topic in Astral Chat about just trying to get more posts. Why didnt you lock that.
Once again very Immature ecspacially for a moderator.