The problem with this whole "demon" war thing is, there is absoluteley no definite evidece for it. Tha mayan calender ends. So what? The calendar on my wall ends this year too, but I don't see anyone going crazy over this one.
Where are the ancient texts, which speak of a demon war in 2012? I didn't find them, and nobody could direct me to them. The bible for example speaks of "armageddon", but doesn't give a definite date.
There were countless prophecies of "the end" the last decades, and nothing happend. So if this "war believers" could give us any evidence besides "feelings", I'd be happy to read this evidence.
I have to say I find the idea of this "demon war" thing quite attractive, because it's unique and uncommon. Plus, it would give me an excuse for not applying for a job ;)
I'm looking forward to your theories. Maybe this can clear some things up for these "super heroes" ;)
I do beleive that something is going to happen and yes it is a feeling, though wheater this feeling is good or bad, is hard to interpret. It could be that a discovery will be made and an era of peace will finally begin, or maybe a demon war will happen and all of man kind will be killed. Who knows and frankly I don't really care which, it could very well happen long after this generation is dead anyway, so I will worry about it in the next life time.
Hi all,
Can I ask please that we don't start going into more great long discussions release arguments about demon wars?
We had a plague of demon war topics a little while back that all ended up getting out of hand, and we had to start locking down topics.
I would suggest you not try and clear up any misconceptions about the Mayan calendar because there's no hard evidence that there isn't anything BUT misconceptions. There is only one hard solid irrefutable fact about the calendar - it stopped! That's all. The rest is all purely conjecture, supposition and conspiracy theories.
Please, let the whole demon wars subject lie for a bit. Frankly we're a litle tired of it, and it tends to bring out all the fanatics and DBZ wannabes.
James.
"It's just an anime."
EXACTLY!!
I know that, you know that, but we had a whole heard of kids come on to the forums who didn't seem to know that, and couldn't seem to distinguish the difference between DBZ and reality.
Most of the demon war topics we had stemmed from anime junkies who seemed convinced that all the cartoons they were watching were based on fact.
Because so many of the demon war topics got so out of hand, we're reluctant to allow more to start up.
James.
I must agree. I do feel something bad is heading this way. Hoever I view it differentally. I have my own millenium theory.
The previous millenia was based off love and sacrifice. There are a great number of evil people that wish to influence this millenia.
However they are not demons. They are Islmaic fundamenentalists, and others who seek to destroy the free world.
We see people so violently fighting against a "war" becasue it might cost them. So horribly materialistic it makes me sick. We have lived such a wonderful life here in the USA. It is both wrong an cruel to wall ourselves up in the magical city... *caugh* "Atlantis".
We need to make progressive steps to unify our race. Because lets face it folks. We will probly enounter a hostile alien force soon enough. Wheather it be demon or ETs.
If we bicker among petty ideals and "things" we are certian for extinction. What we need most is to open our eyes and quit being so damn selfish and narrow minded.
IMO conventional religion is the main hurdle. Major reforms need to be made, because organized religion is killing this planet and our species.
My .02c
THERE IS NO DEMON WAR.... AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
Namaste,
I was going to make this a 2-part post; with my intention being to draw a picture of likely environmental factors the have influenced children on a individual psychological way; orienting them toward the hero/messiah drive. My second post, as i have edited, was intended to be not necessarily a "clearing up of misconceptions regarding the coming Earth changes"; although that was the way I did initially phrase it. My intention was more to present my theories about possible changes to the fabric of reality during this time. More specifically, some of the more outrageous claims, like the ability to perform "Matrix-like" feats of Newtonian physics defying martial arts. Just about any "tech" from any number of hundreds of anime shows would be included in such a discussion. I really wanted to try and look at those things and then try to look into the world as-it-is right now and see if we could find any evidence of these things even in remote possibility. In addition, I wanted to discuss the connections to our everyday emotional lives that such radical changes in the nature of our everyday reality might have. What purpose in human evolution would it serve if we could, in short order, achieve the level of manifestable power of a "Neo" or a fantasy wizard?
I don't believe this topic is still around, there is no demon war. It is a made up fantasy by people who are to lazy to put in any training, none of them can AP it's all a form of deep meditation that they create in there mind. If there was a demon war then all the mediums in the world would pick up on it.
And when researching prophecys don't just use one 2012, cross your research with other prophecys. Nostradamus, mother shipton, edgar cayce, the bible, today's psychics, then the mayan prophecys. Other wise everyone who believes in this 2012 will look just as stupid as the people who thought the world would end in the year 2000. Prophecy wise i would worry more about 2005 & 2006.
Thanks
Simon
//www.twilightsociety.com
Well, that means that most mediums are safe then, as I for one have not yet met a medium who believes there to be any demon war on the way.
I think though that if we look a little closer at what Shadowdancer is talking about, we'll realise that each of us who sets our feet upon a spiritual path at some stage wages war with our own demons.
James.
Namaste,
I just got done scanning the thread 'War of souls'. Very interesting stuff. I think there are many many people that have been aware of....a sense of urgency. I was born feeling it almost 30 years ago, and I know there are a few others here on AP that are a generation or so older than I who know what I speak of. For me, its pretty amazing, words cannot describe. What I seek are children who know that there is 'something wicked this way comes'.....they know because they can feel it! They may not have the over-developed vocabulary--> and <complex and nuanced symbol/lingustic nueral frameworks to work with in trying to communicate what they FEEL. They have an extraordinarily deep and strong somatic-kinesthetic sense and understanding of their world. They are actually starting to physically feel the subtle energies that constitute our time-space continuum. Just as a seasoned qigong practicioner has developed a sensitivity to chi and other organic electromagnetic field matrices; these children are born with a generally higher sensitivity and awareness(thus knowing)of these energies.
Putting myself in a place psychologically similar to the best of my capability; I feel that it would be extraordinarily difficult to successfully verbally communicate my sensing knowledge in a lucid and elucidating manner. I would imagine that it would be particularly difficult given certain psycho-spiritual imprinting that most male children experience in Western Judeo-Christian oriented corporatized consumer culture. So in that we have a mixture of the need to play mystic male war-god messiah; combined with a lifetime of being encouraged to persue instant gratification and ego fulfillment above all else....what a picture!
Is there anyone else out there that feels, with these factors running in the background throughout a child's life....that when that child drums up enough courage to "speak out" about their percieved "true destiny", or their have some "secret knowledge" or super power...would it not take tremendous amount of courage...because really, they are simply using the language tools they have available to get across to us what they are feeling.....
Living in a culture that is hopelessly materialistic....these kids are not only working up enough strength of will to just express how they feel, but what they are announcing....it is, according to arbitrarily enforced ideas of social norms; tantamount to announcing "I am insane!". Not only their own insanity do they proclaim; but with pride and arrogance many adhere to their claims. The inflated ego is surely connected to the inherant social conditioning they have undergone through the Mediatrix. Just imagine a crazed hippy that did a bit too much acid and runs around claiming his identity as Jesus(something I did do!). That poor hippy definitely was awake, but just like waking and looking into the sun he is blinded and sees not the sun in us all. These kids are similar, except they are born feeling the acid! And their messiah conditioning is now not the all-loving Jesus the Lamb of God; but the all-powerful butt-kicking trenchcoat wearing Neo. Where Jesus's strength were in being able to connect to, understand, empathize and have compassion for others, Neo's strengths lie in his friends, family and lovers all dying around him. He is alone. Utterly and terribly alone. This false messiah can never listen to anyone because they don't understand how he feels!!!! Remeber, it is that sensing capacity which in our society that is squashed in males, the feeling capacities. This sense of isolation and alienation creates a fundamental mistrust and a twisted sense of arrogance within its victims. (on a side note, such an archetype could be seen as an entity; in that, it is an archetype that is pushed on every male in our country(US) through the Media's Tricks. intuitively, if Christ energy is an energy that is in all our hearts, then so is Anti-Christ energy. it would seem as though Neo, in trying to be a Christ, but missing the point, becomes a vehicle for the Anti-Christ, anyways...)
Aside from telling us of their own(and thus our, collective traumas and wounding; they are telling us (again, in the language they have at their disposal); "There is a Demon War coming soon!!!" And they have adhered themselves to the Mayan Calander Long Count End Date. So they have, as a collective unconscious, picked up on something that has some level of concentrated human intent as a date slated for the commencement of something momentous. Just as anyone can pick up and manifest negative energy patterns, so can they positive. Is there something positive to the 'Demon War'? Is there something there to be considered? Many people have predicted, in accordance with mayan, hopi and many other indigeonous prophecies, that there are to be radical changes on our planet....soon. Many speak of disasters, natural and possibly man-made. in general, it is spoken of as a time of many radical changes; powerful endings and powerful new beginngings. What kind of role would a concept of a "demon war" play in the evolution of humanity? how could this idea be integrated into our collective consciousness in a way which would be beneficial for us all?
this topic is scary..... since well for my entire life i sinced something foreboding was going to happen, but i dont know what, it influences my dreams sometimes.... but all i know is this, I have a bad feel about both nominees for president this year... and this is comeing from a 14 year old that never listens to the news.
Oh yes, There will be a demon war and a person will be chosen to lead a group against them and most of the demons are vampires and the chosen one fights against them and befriends a lesbian witch and a goofy guy for comical releif. You dont have to wait untill 2012. Just tune in to FOX on saturday afternoons.
Sometimes you can't rely on the 5 senses and hope to find a evidence. If you were a demon warlord are you going to step into the physical realm and prance around to make sure everyone knew that you were going to attack. No of course you wouldn't not a single American citizen knew when 9/11 happened and a guy that lives in a cave planned that.
On to the child prophecy thing that this post was based on. You wouldn't expect a man to face a army of humans. I wouldn't expect a boy to face a army of demons. However I am 14 I have a very strong sense for the spiritual and I have a large abundance of energy. Maybe I would be fit to fight in the war but there is no way I would fight alone. It just doesn't work that way.
No it wouldn't, though there are those that are arrogent enough to say that they don't need the help.
If this were to happen and one person had to fight it all, he would be overwelded by shear numbers, it wouldn't matter how much power this person had.
I don't even think that such a responsibility will fall onto a group of people, this isn't something you put anything through, doing so is very selfish I say.
If so many people are feeling thisthing coming it could only mean a large stress. Maybe something that could rupture time and space. That is not caused by a single person but by many.
Oh yeah as for the anime's I still have yet to watch one on a war against demons.
Also lets try to keep the emotions under control this time so we don't get our topic locked up.
Quote from: ClowIf so many people are feeling thisthing coming it could only mean a large stress. Maybe something that could rupture time and space. .
Ahem, to rupture time and space would mean splitting a hole in the universe as we know it...perhaps creating a random wormhole of some sort.
Anyway, I see the whole demon thing as some sort of spiritual fetish. Something hopeful people can put their energy into and come together with the same idea. Nothing too interesting going on there anyway.
Human Living Vampires
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Thuoght you might wanna check that out shadowdancer. What do you think of that?
Maybe the 'demons' (providing that there is a demon war) will be human vampires perhaps mutated by the sun (or the second 'dark twin' sun), and look a bit like zombies.
Another idea...
There was a dream described by someone at GLP. The dream was basically about this vibrational sound frequency that was transmitted throughout the earth which seperated the 'light' from the 'dark'. The people who were submissive to this frequency turned into zombie like humans who attacked the 'light' side unrelentlessly, and all over the world. It was a 'demon' war it seems...
Sounds like something microchip implants and/or HAARP would do. Or that dark twin thing..
Namaste,
hmm.....hlv, human living vampire....i have found that this can be a good description(excluding those who consciously feel the need for blood)for most people within western culture, especially the US. Too much junk food, TV, not enough exercise, no meditation...you get the idea. Ok, so this is in a sense, a "coming out" for me. I do believe we are actually in the thick of a "demon war". In a very literal and externalized sense. See, the problem with people and their absolute disbelief that such a thing could happen, let alone consider seriously the possibility that it is happening....rests within the other side of the demon war coin. for me, this is how it works: Every action we take, ever decision we make, every thought we create; all these things have an instantaneous and irreversible effect upon our environment. Our thoughts have a strong effect upon how we see the world, what we call toward us for life experiences and what we emanate out into the world, our projections of who we are as an individuated consciousness. We can see instantaneously how anger, fear, hatred and ignorance and other base thought/emotions can create reactions in other people and animals. Approach a dog in a state of fear and they are going to be very wary of you, because your primary consciousness is operating on a level of survival, meaning you may be more ready to take action that is based on the "kill or be killed" vibration....dogs don't feel really comfortable with that. The decisions and actions we make and take are also instantaneously manifested...but they also carry subtle vibrations and unseen connections that are not readily seen. For example, do you eat meat? If so, do you hunt that animal? Honor it up in a high spiritual fashion as it is decreed by the natural laws of Gaia?(some may debate and question this, but i don't care, keep it to yourself, i will give other examples) When we go to eat at McDonald's we are not only giving our money=energy=spirit=free will, to support the tortuous lives and deaths of millions of cows, but we also are tangentially supporting the destruction of the rain forest, the continuation of greenhouse gasses buildup; in actuality, if you bought McDonald's in the 80's as I did, you were inadvertently supporting partied in South Africa, as Coca-Cola and McDonald's are part of the same multinational corporate conglomerate and Coca-Cola financially contributed to the South African regime at that time. (something specifically left out in the 2nd "Lethal Weapon" installment) The clothes that you buy, where do they come from? made by 12 and 13 year old girls in India or elsewhere that dip their hands in the highly carcinogous and cancer-causing dyes to make that shirt look pretty? how does it feel to wear those carcinogens? what about your shoes? or your computer? even the process of recycling paper wastes has been developed here in the states to produce more wastes that are of a higher level of toxicity that before recycling. Basically, by being boring into the "privileged" life of a western consumer, everything you do, every comfort you enjoy, is causing someone(or many someones)massive amounts of suffering and pain, just to survive. The military-prison-industrial-complex systems that are the US and western governments are populated by demons. The demon war is on. And it starts in each of our hearts individually. We have to take a look at ourselves and develop a kind of willpower, spiritual muscles, unlike any that have come before us....because we live in a spiritual Babylon. a land that praises an individual for causing pain, pushing others down to get ahead, it honors the disregard for others and ignores the essential need for community and, shoot, literally, there is a group of right-wing evangelical christians that believe that the end of the world is near, so, screw it, who cares and lets rape the environment because we are gods chosen few and we will be in heaven soon...(aka-space)
I know i have been rambling.....but my point is....check your own life first. find out how you have been conditioned and brainwashed by those fallen angels, those demons who control the tv and media(name of a ethnic group during the time of old Babylon about 3000BC). Search for ways to live better....organic foods, buy clothes from thrift stores as much as possible...try becoming a vegetarian...or learn the ancient art of bow-hunting. Take up a mind/body discipline like martial arts or yoga, dancing....Make time in your day to meditate, at least 10 minutes or so. These are the actions that will help fight the demon war NOW. Because it is not a future event. It is happening already. WAKE UP.
PS- i will write some more about my perception of the possibilities of the syncopation of the higher vibrations of light based matter with the lower frequencies of entropic forces and the subsequent possibilities of the alterations to Newtonian physical laws and the mutation of the human genome.
QuoteNamaste,
hmm.....hlv, human living vampire....i have found that this can be a good description(excluding those who consciously feel the need for blood)for most people within western culture, especially the US. Too much junk food, TV, not enough exercise, no meditation...you get the idea. Ok, so this is in a sense, a "coming out" for me. I do believe we are actually in the thick of a "demon war". In a very literal and externalized sense. See, the problem with people and their absolute disbelief that such a thing could happen, let alone consider seriously the possibility that it is happening....rests within the other side of the demon war coin. for me, this is how it works: Every action we take, ever decision we make, every thought we create; all these things have an instantaneous and irreversible effect upon our environment. Our thoughts have a strong effect upon how we see the world, what we call toward us for life experiences and what we emanate out into the world, our projections of who we are as an individuated consciousness. We can see instantaneously how anger, fear, hatred and ignorance and other base thought/emotions can create reactions in other people and animals. Approach a dog in a state of fear and they are going to be very wary of you, because your primary consciousness is operating on a level of survival, meaning you may be more ready to take action that is based on the "kill or be killed" vibration....dogs don't feel really comfortable with that. The decisions and actions we make and take are also instantaneously manifested...but they also carry subtle vibrations and unseen connections that are not readily seen. For example, do you eat meat? If so, do you hunt that animal? Honor it up in a high spiritual fashion as it is decreed by the natural laws of Gaia?(some may debate and question this, but i don't care, keep it to yourself, i will give other examples) When we go to eat at McDonald's we are not only giving our money=energy=spirit=free will, to support the tortuous lives and deaths of millions of cows, but we also are tangentially supporting the destruction of the rain forest, the continuation of greenhouse gasses buildup; in actuality, if you bought McDonald's in the 80's as I did, you were inadvertently supporting partied in South Africa, as Coca-Cola and McDonald's are part of the same multinational corporate conglomerate and Coca-Cola
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Let's worry about 2009 shall we?
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I have many friends- includeing myself, think there was something going to happen. As for the child hero, I highly doubt that it would be just one lone child and that it would be a child at all. Many years ago, I had a dream that there would be seven people, and that none of them were under the age of 13. and they werent fighting demons, they were fighting something else. Demons, really, common someone has been watching Inuyasha too much...
checking something out.
Ok, i am unable to read anymore posts on this thread for some reason.....how synchronistic....what does it mean? i would really like to read some of your responses to my last post....i will start another thread and if its not too much trouble for those of you who have posted, would you repost your replies from my last post with actual content? Many thanks, shadowdancer
I was responsible for the 'War of the souls' thread and I realized I caused turmoil, not only then but apparently even still.
I have a thing or two still to say about this.
I realize that in the former thread there was little or no evidence to back up my claims, this angered a lot of you. Some of you however were plain arrogant from the outset, because of this I have reevaluated my options.
My original problem was that I was unable to provide proof, and I found myself being asked for it at every turn. How can I do that? I'm no scientist, I'm no expert on this stuff... I just have a few memories and a powerful instinct.
Then I listened to myself and what I was saying, it was pathetic... I had undertaken the responsibility of warning people about what I thought was going to happen yet I refused to go that extra mile and make it feasible.
True, I am no expert but since I have more knowledge about the war than anyone else I have met, and since I am willing to put at least that much effort into warning others then I may as well go that extra mile anyway... Right?
That's why I am currently in the process of constructing a website that can, when complete, hopefully offer a more scientific and overall believable view on the war and the falling of the 'veil'.
The site is still under construction and you can find the building blocks for it in the link in my signature. I am also working on a countermeasure to the war dubbed 'Utopia'. It's not much but it's all I can do, I have friends who are helping me and I have a list of believers and supporters as long as your arm. But I am still looking for as much evidence and/or proof one way or the other.
I wouldn't want to create a site that leads others from the truth, nor would I want to convince myself that a lie is real.
So if anyone has any information either for or against the war... anything with substance, then please contact me at 'founders_unspokenreality@hotmail.com' Also if you believe in the war and would like more information or to help me in any way please let me know.
Forestianfire, you mentioned seven children. In my research I have stumbled across people who are a part of otherkin factions that have come here just for the war. Not all otherkin are here for the war, in fact many may not even involve themselves in it. However if you sense it, if you feel it coming in your heart... then it is likely that you are here for that purpose. The seven you mentioned could relate to a number of things from the 'seven archangels' who are supposedly the most influential among all the angels.
More likely however is that you are sensing that you are part of your own faction and have yet to reunite yourself with the other members. I have met many others like this and I myself belong to such a faction so it isn't too rare.
There will be no single 'child hero' this is probably reminiscent of the concept that humanity is still young yet it must come together to defeat this threat, hell if I know... either way there will not be a single 'super warrior' child to save us all.
This time we will have to save ourselves, besides the falling of the veil isn't all about the war anyway, think of the war as a byproduct. When the veil falls apparently humanity will undergo a spiritual evolution... an ascension. you may call it the 'fourth density' The demons are simply trying to avoid letting that happen.
As I said I am still researching this as well as comparing notes with others researching rival theories. When my site is complete I will ensure that nothing but the truth as I believe it will be shown on it. I know it's just a silly freebie site at the moment however I have no money to my name, lol. In time I will upgrade it and make it more efficient.
Hey quiet storm, you mentioned something about light and dark being separated, right? That's essentially what the veil is as far as I can tell, and when it collapses the two will mix together, only I don't see 'light and dark' as 'good and evil' To me it's all about the energies.
I will be hanging around here for a few days so if you have anything sensible to say either for, against or generally about this theory then please say so.
By the way, I hate the term 'demon-war' it gives them too much credit, am I the only one who dislikes that term?
The Founder
I have no idea about demon wars, I do consider humans who use violence to be demonlike so in that manner we already have demon wars.
As far as prophecy goes, when the oil runs out there will be some great changes but I'm sure there already are lots of theories about what might happen.
Quote from: shadowdancerNamaste,
What purpose in human evolution would it serve if we could, in short order, achieve the level of manifestable power of a "Neo" or a fantasy wizard?
If we could all fly life would be cheaper and we might actually achieve balance in our natural surroundings. Plus manifesting things out of nothing would be nice too, saves a lot of working time.
For me all powers are just another extension of the ego, wanting to control things in the surrounding. And power corrupts given enough time. Most powers are destructive anyhow, perhaps except healing (although when you look into it that has it's destructive qualities also). Why could Neo just not make a plant grow faster? Would be beneficial to the worlds' food problems. But I guess something like that would be less spectacular then say, creating an earthquake or conjuring up a typhoon. I think the greatest power anyone can have is humor, being able to make others smile :)
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You need small paragraphs, not reading that.
i believe in this demon war, but i guess it depends on what you call a demon.
i don't know what views the rest of you have on aliens but to me the demons are the reptilians aka draconians aka shape-shifters, beings that operate on extreme negative tendencies that lay claim to earth and the humans.
when the ananaki first came to earth it was a joint venture with the reptilians. sitchen talks about the ananaki and thru his work you get the impression of one race, gardner takes the same approach but if you are aware of the reptilians then you can see that he is trying to make out that the reptilians were the ananaki. he doesn't say that out right but he talks about the dragon bloodline. anyway... cutting a long story short, what i figured out was that Anu's (the ruler on nibaru) second wife was the dragon queen. to me that tells me his second wife was a reptilian. we know that the ananaki were fair of skin and with white to blond hair thru descriptions ( is that the shining ones?) but other descriptions have come up of others with reptilian features (scales) but also with feathers ( or feathered serpent.
now Anu had a son from his first marriage who's name was Enlil, Enlil was the ruler here on earth when they came here. he over saw everything.
Anu's second son, Enki, was brought about thru the second marriage with the dragon queen. so that makes Enki a half cast reptilian.
Enki was the scientist, he was the one who figured out how to mix their blood with the homo erectus of earth. hence making humans as they are today. the missing link in our evolution is genetic manipulation.
now Enki had a grudge with his brother, mainly once Anu either died or stepped down (not sure which) but Enlil became ruler on Nibaru, and that gave Enki the poopies. Enlil laid claim cause he was the first born son, Enki laid claim cause he was the first born son to the marriage between Anu and the dragon queen. obviously the marriage between Anu and the dragon queen was a political marriage. i think it ended in war and destroyed the alliance between the Ananaki and the reptilians. as far as i know that war is still going, Enki was thrown out of the nibaruan council (cast down to earth?... satan? Sitchin already stated enki was the serpent in the garden of Eden and isn't Enki's symbol the 2 snakes entwining a staff?). now because Enki was the one that basically made us thru his genetic work, and him being half reptilian and the prince in the royal family of the "dragons" i believe that is why the reptilians lay claim over us.
oh also... when the "joint venture" between the ananaki and the reptilians first came to earth, it was enki that stepped onto land first, is why they lay claim to earth as well.
Nibaru is a planet larger than jupiter that passes between the asteroid belt and jupiter and occasionally it passes between the asteroid belt and mars. it originally destroyed a planet and created the asteroid belt. the orbit of nibaru is 3600 years (don't know if that is an accurate number or a rounded off number) i have a feeling that the ananaki are actually Pleaidians or a branch of and they use the planet as an orbiting station
Now as i mentioned above, this war between the reptilians and the ananaki is still going and it is over humans and the planet earth. many believe that nibaru is due back and with Nibaru comes the war between the reptilians and the ananaki.
Many christians believe that in the end of days the angels will war against the demons in the heavens... are the ananaki the angels? are the reptilians the demons?
So if the reptilians are the demons in this demon war how do we find reference to the war?
The reptilian theme comes up in many of the ancient myths or mythology, I.E. In Aztec and Toltec mythology, Quetzalcoati was the feathered serpent god, or if you look at it in a more broader sense... reptilians/draconians... draconian/draco/dragon... now when u look at it like that... how many references and prophecies have been written about dragons? check out my site below, its a collection of prophecies to make it easy to find and cross reference different aspects. revelations talk about dragons, mother shipton talks about dragons, mayans talk about serpents, how many references to dragons are there in mythology? or how about St George the dragon slayer.
was Quetzalcoati and Enki the same person? i believe so. Enki done a lot of good for the humans, in Sumerian writings and in mayan mythology, but he was also a half cast reptilian. i believe a lot of the good he done for humans is the same as how we take care of and fatten up a pig before we slaughter it.
Maybe its because of Enki using his own DNA in our manipulation is why us humans have that eternal battle between good and evil. humans can be as caring and loving as the ananaki and as greedy and destructive as the reptilians
forget the dragons in lord of the rings... dragons are the reptilians and the reptilians are the demons and the demon war that is coming is the war where we will have to stand up as humans and lay claim to our selves and our own planet.
only then will we make ourselves known in the universe and enter the next "age" of humanity
Wow, I think you will be in for a heck of a surprise, now would this be the aliens that have dragon characteristics, or just dragons in general that are evil, because if I see one more dragons were evil creatures, I will explode.
QuoteThe reptilian theme comes up in many of the ancient myths or mythology, I.E. In Aztec and Toltec mythology, Quetzalcoati was the feathered serpent god, or if you look at it in a more broader sense... reptilians/draconians... draconian/draco/dragon... now when u look at it like that... how many references and prophecies have been written about dragons? check out my site below, its a collection of prophecies to make it easy to find and cross reference different aspects. revelations talk about dragons, mother shipton talks about dragons, mayans talk about serpents, how many references to dragons are there in mythology? or how about St George the dragon slayer.
was Quetzalcoati and Enki the same person? i believe so. Enki done a lot of good for the humans, in Sumerian writings and in mayan mythology, but he was also a half cast reptilian. i believe a lot of the good he done for humans is the same as how we take care of and fatten up a pig before we slaughter it.
I don't doubt that aliens exist but there is more to that story, if you read up on Immanuel Velikovsky you might find a lot of similarities to those myths. Although he mainly theorized about ancient myths he has been correct about many things and was shunned by leading scientists during his time. He said that Jupiter would be made of gas and that it would give off strong radio signals and that the moon had a gravitational effect upon the earth.
Quetzalcoatl he said was Venus and that it erupted from Jupiter 3500 years ago and that it would be extremely hot from it's former life as a comet before it came to rest in it's orbit. As we all know now, Venus is the hottest planet, even hotter than Mercury which is closest to the sun. There was something on mars to but I can't find it.
So could it be that the war fought in the heavens were planets and other bodies that had a major impact on earth and not a battle between aliens?
I am not sure but there is plenty of information out there.
This site has most of Immanuel Velikovsky's Worlds in collision.
http://www.varchive.org/ce/index.htm
QuoteSo could it be that the war fought in the heavens were planets and other bodies that had a major impact on earth and not a battle between aliens?
sure... anything is possible. if that is what you feel will be the case then go with it. i feel it will be a war between those 2 groups of aliens, but this is just my own view and i don't expect anyone to believe the same as me. this forum is for injecting different views so that we all may get different perspectives and help ourselves get a broader understanding. in no way do i dictate that i am right and someone else is wrong, just that this is what i believe.
Quotenow would this be the aliens that have dragon characteristics, or just dragons in general that are evil, because if I see one more dragons were evil creatures, I will explode.
i was talking about aliens with dragon characteristics, but no i wasn't saying all dragons are evil.... i was referring to one lot that have certain views of earth and humans. i don't believe all reptilians are bad, just like i don't believe all humans are bad, but the actions of a group of reptilians acting under selfish motives is what i was referring to as bad.
so please.... don't explode LOL
Hey guys.
I think you might wanna check this out: http://www.fvza.org/zombies.html
It's a website on the Federal Vampire and Zombie Association functioning frmo 1869-1975. And maybe now also but they are covering it up? Interesting site though.
Is it just me or did this just go from something remotely sensible to just a bunch of.....goofy excrement.
Nibaru... sounds like something from Star Wars. Don't you think that some kind of telescope would see something that big?
What's this grump orbiting around anyway? It can't be OUR sun. the 'planet' would be a big ice cube. And if it did pass close enough to the Earth to effect us, it would be our planet crashing in to it. Not a war.
I'm sorry I was wrong to say it sounds like something from Star Wars. It sounds more like from Escaflowne.
My dreams are pretty accurate but it meationed the number 2015, not 12.
The demon war has already started, at least a recruitation. Demons are offering to pay for every person recruited, and this is not a joke.
Well make a topic on it CaCo and we'll discuss it, should be interresting.
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Well make a topic on it CaCo and we'll discuss it, should be interresting.
There's not much to discuss about it. Demons are very happy when you find recruits to their armies, and can give valuable rewards. What is interesting that many of the recruited people are calling Satan Enki...
That name reminds me of God somehow, as if he carries that name. Or something els.. it just reminds me of some "thing" / person.
You don't just face a demon every day, i mean, i don't atleast. When i called out for one, nothing came, so in my perspectiv there's enough to discuss about.
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You don't just face a demon every day, i mean, i don't atleast. When i called out for one, nothing came, so in my perspectiv there's enough to discuss about.
1. You must have a reason to call a demon
2. You must know the name and sigil of a demon
Why do you wanted to summon a demon?
Since i've got un-awnsered questions that needs awnser
QuoteWhat is interesting that many of the recruited people are calling Satan Enki...
i mentioned something similar in my earlier post.
How do you know about what many of the recruits are saying? i.e calling Satan Enki?
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How do you know about what many of the recruits are saying? i.e calling Satan Enki?
How should I not know?
There seems to be some confusion developing... Astrally demons can manifest to you, but not phyically, in my experience they can try to recruit somebody by either binding themself to you (sorts of possesion) or by simply follwoing you round and pestering/scaring you into submission.
I urge you, don't fall for it. They have nothing to offer you but pain, this I have seen first hand and I would not lie about it.
There may be 'aliens' who are related in some way with pre-veil demons, however how such a being would intact with this world I don't know.
In any case, don't bother meddling with demons, while they are not ALL twisted a lot of them are virtually beyond redemption, raised on the belief that you are their enemy, they are ignorant to hear any different. They will do what they like to you but whatever it is, it wont be nice.
But who's side you pick is up to you I guessm just follow your heart, that's all I can suggest.
The Founder
I am used to more then you think, i have already had this before though was not aware of it, and i didn't let it get me, was a struggle for months though i never did anyone any harm, my mood any changed, my thoughts, the way i was living, but never anything it could get a hold on. I've been facing more then just demons, and i am looking for 3 in particulair.. where can i get information about what demons there are etc. I am not lying about this, i know what i need to do
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There seems to be some confusion developing... Astrally demons can manifest to you, but not phyically, in my experience they can try to recruit somebody by either binding themself to you (sorts of possesion) or by simply follwoing you round and pestering/scaring you into submission.
I urge you, don't fall for it. They have nothing to offer you but pain, this I have seen first hand and I would not lie about it.
There may be 'aliens' who are related in some way with pre-veil demons, however how such a being would intact with this world I don't know.
In any case, don't bother meddling with demons, while they are not ALL twisted a lot of them are virtually beyond redemption, raised on the belief that you are their enemy, they are ignorant to hear any different. They will do what they like to you but whatever it is, it wont be nice.
But who's side you pick is up to you I guessm just follow your heart, that's all I can suggest.
It looks like the fear speaks through you. My brother has summoned demons, and they were nice, they have many things to offer, of course not for free, but I've never seen things like demon binding to a human. This is done by negs.
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I am used to more then you think, i have already had this before though was not aware of it, and i didn't let it get me, was a struggle for months though i never did anyone any harm, my mood any changed, my thoughts, the way i was living, but never anything it could get a hold on. I've been facing more then just demons, and i am looking for 3 in particulair.. where can i get information about what demons there are etc. I am not lying about this, i know what i need to do
You may find some useful info here:
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/DEMONIV.html
I've looked and i can't really figger it all out cacodemon. I've got questions about cravers aka assassins, a friend who was among the immortals and about ancients. Then there's another part, about the overlord (atleast one of em) and so girl looking like she's from the movie the ring.. she's really a bitchy pain in the butt.. who should i be turning towards?
I've read also that one of them on the website said, we're all egyptian, this is true.
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I've read also that one of them on the website said, we're all egyptian, this is true.
True? Could you explain that?
At this moment i actually can't.. i've got to little information about it to make them result into words. It's impossible to explain, and it doesn't matter at all at this point.
Sounds like hear-say. Can't be sure though
Anyway, it is not fear that leads me to saying these things my friend it is experience, yeah sure demons are alwyas nice and loyal as long as you have soemthing to offer them, but they're liek the maffia, as soon as things get too demanding their darker sides with show, they will keep on at you, sure there are many who sucesfuly summon and do buisness with demons with no hitches, but when you weigh that against the damage they can do if you happen to get a slightly rowdier demon, it simply isn't worth the risk.
There are many harmless and indeed some peace loving demonic races out there, but when you come across the hell kind, you know it.
The Founder
It's not hear say, i have been hunted down by this craver i said some things about before, my friend saved me, and now he's dead, i want awnsers, i've got more experience then you think, including with such typical races.
How about this. Let the demons come. We all get to gether, as a strong supernaturual army and kick the demons --:twisted: . The ask them if it was a good idea to mess with us. Frankly im not scared. If you can show me a demon more scary than the darkness of a human heart. I will kiss your feet. There is nothing worse in this universe than a human.
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How about this. Let the demons come. We all get to gether, as a strong supernaturual army and kick the demons -- . The ask them if it was a good idea to mess with us. Frankly im not scared. If you can show me a demon more scary than the darkness of a human heart. I will kiss your feet. There is nothing worse in this universe than a human.
Why do you think anyone needs war? From what I've seen most demons are friendly to humanity. I would be more afraid of angels, they could be more dangerous, as they do not have feelings, or personality, and blindly obey orders of their master. They are also too obsessed with power and control.
I didnt say we need war, but if someones wants to comes a knockin then let em.
I don't give one bonk about demons or angels, though you have a VERY good point there, angels, most of them, are like you said Caco, though seeming you think angels are worse then demons shows that you have only seen demon's that cary the name demons, there's more like the demonic like beings from the unknown and such els.
I don't choose a side between good or evil, since those are the only definitions in a humans vocabulary. Some know there's more, i have the third side, my own. It's not explaineble, takes to long, will be futill, can't explain it in english either.
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I don't choose a side between good or evil, since those are the only definitions in a humans vocabulary. Some know there's more, i have the third side, my own. It's not explaineble, takes to long, will be futill, can't explain it in english either.
I think that it's the best approach, because you are your own master then. This s why I did not dedicated my soul to Satan.
i know what i am, i know what i've always been, it's just as clear as getting birth and dying and rebirth etc.
QuoteI don't choose a side between good or evil, since those are the only definitions in a humans vocabulary. Some know there's more, i have the third side, my own. It's not explainable, takes to long, will be futill, can't explain it in english either.
The reason I choose the good side and not my own is the fact that I would not be in the war alone. If tomorrow, demons or whatever, threatened this earth they would be trying to kill my family, and every body else's family. Just because you think good and evil are human definitions, you're going to let a little kid get killed because he/she don't.
If you choose not to fight, and sit back and watch because you think you are above the human psyche, you're going to let the earth be destroyed? Its not the fact of the war being possible, but the principle of your words that I call you a coward Orchild.
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If you choose not to fight, and sit back and watch because you think you are above the human psyche, you're going to let the earth be destroyed? Its not the fact of the war being possible, but the principle of your words that I call you a coward Orchild.
There's always a fight, and none of the sides will ever win. I think that those who are afraid of choosing their own path are cowards, not those that refuse to follow others in spreading hate.
And why earth should be destroyed? I've found what Satan really wants to do, and it's not destruction at all. I do not agree with both ways, so why should I engage in other's war?
because its not others war. its as much against me as it is you. You think satan wouldnt bother you just becasue you chose your own path? I thought you knew what satan wanted to do? You should know the way he works. It dosent matter if you worship him either. In the end he screws over everyone.
And im not a coward for choosing a side. I know what youre thinking: You think I want to be on God's side because he's stronger. Its the right side to be on. The will always be a fight, because the universe is a contant moving cycle. Its not meant to end. And it wont because humans arent made to live peacfully. Then you may ask 'why fight for peace then' well thats the whole screwed up thing about life, it dosent make sence.
Another thing i notice about some people in this community, is people who think their so divinely enlightned that the rules dosnt apply to them anymore. NOTE: You are never above anyone else. No matter how much you think you know about life, you will eventually find out that you dont know excrement.Go ahead and live in your little im too mature to fight a silly humans fight for childish things such as good and evil. Itll come back to bite you.
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NOTE: You are never above anyone else. No matter how much you think you know about life, you will eventually find out that you dont know [edit].Go ahead and live in your little im too mature to fight a silly humans fight for childish things such as good and evil. Itll come back to bite you.
I've not said that. Why do you think that I think I am more mature than others at all? Why do you think that good and evil are childish things? Also remember tat both sides are capable of doing good and evil things.
And why should Satan try to destroy humans, when even Bible admits that he was a co-creator of a human race?
I wasnt necessarly talking about you. Ill explain:
QuoteI don't choose a side between good or evil, since those are the only definitions in a humans vocabulary. Some know there's more, i have the third side, my own. It's not explaineble, takes to long, will be futill, can't explain it in english either.
This was posted by orchild. It seems to me that this person thinks that they think good and evil are petty, especially when they said humans vocabulary.
Quoteknow what i am, i know what i've always been, it's just as clear as getting birth and dying and rebirth etc.
This sounds like the person thinks he/she is enlightned
There fore I conclude that Orchild thinks that evil and good are silly human things and that he/she is above it. Plus i have seen lots of people in here act like they are some kind of special being and not a human.
Why would satan try to destroy humans? Becasue he satan thats what he does. it dosent matter that he helped create humans. And im aware that the world isnt divided into good and bad people, and that there are many gray areas.
Do you think im religious, cause im not that religious. I dont go to church, I dont read the bible. But I do beleive in god and I do stand up for what I beleive.
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Why would satan try to destroy humans? Becasue he satan thats what he does.
This is only propaganda of one side, I would never say such thing before listening to the other side's propaganda. I think that both sides say many lies, but interesting things can be found in such mess.
And about Orchild: I think(but I am not sure) that he meant that good and evil are only labels, and that both sides have both aspects. This can be confirmed by both Bible, and Satanic sources.
Quote from: Wronski FeintQuoteI don't choose a side between good or evil, since those are the only definitions in a humans vocabulary. Some know there's more, i have the third side, my own. It's not explainable, takes to long, will be futill, can't explain it in english either.
The reason I choose the good side and not my own is the fact that I would not be in the war alone. If tomorrow, demons or whatever, threatened this earth they would be trying to kill my family, and every body else's family. Just because you think good and evil are human definitions, you're going to let a little kid get killed because he/she don't.
If you choose not to fight, and sit back and watch because you think you are above the human psyche, you're going to let the earth be destroyed? Its not the fact of the war being possible, but the principle of your words that I call you a [*TEDDYBEAR*] Orchild.
How dare you saying this, ffs i am at work now posting this, i will post [edit] i am all about when i get home, you got NO right saying this, have you had an overlord and craver after your [edit], seeing your friend get killed in a vision and the next day talking to his spirit because hes dead, you have no [*FLUFFING*] idea!!!
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Quote from: Wronski FeintQuoteI don't choose a side between good or evil, since those are the only definitions in a humans vocabulary. Some know there's more, i have the third side, my own. It's not explainable, takes to long, will be futill, can't explain it in english either.
The reason I choose the good side and not my own is the fact that I would not be in the war alone. If tomorrow, demons or whatever, threatened this earth they would be trying to kill my family, and every body else's family. Just because you think good and evil are human definitions, you're going to let a little kid get killed because he/she don't.
If you choose not to fight, and sit back and watch because you think you are above the human psyche, you're going to let the earth be destroyed? Its not the fact of the war being possible, but the principle of your words that I call you a coward Orchild.
Alright second try, without going bezerk on what you said.
You don't want to be alone in this demon war (your just using the demon war to make a point, i do the same atm) because your saying then that without having a side, i would sit back, relax, let everybody get killed. I am not neutral, i am talking about being a sort of judge, not judging on emotions and such, just using straight comon sence and logics.
It's the oposit, when a demon war would hapen, my whole life would BE dedicated into clensing this world. Meaning, i would dedicate my entire life to helping other's. Only way to do that in having this judge sort of excrement, emotions would make you have a wrong definition on what's right and wrong to do.. it would be under such extreme sercumstances.
You dunno nothing about my past lives, i do, at the point of dedicating my life to something it was always to help other people, this life i have always helped other people, still do. Don't ever judge this fast.
Hmm i am a coward, since when does giving up your own life for dedicating it to a beter futur and cooming out for it makes you a coward. Do you understand me a bit beter now?? I will read the other posts now.
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Why would satan try to destroy humans? Becasue he satan thats what he does.
This is only propaganda of one side, I would never say such thing before listening to the other side's propaganda. I think that both sides say many lies, but interesting things can be found in such mess.
And about Orchild: I think(but I am not sure) that he meant that good and evil are only labels, and that both sides have both aspects. This can be confirmed by both Bible, and Satanic sources.
What caco state's here, is exatly what i mean, in your life you don't get a chance to choose a side, your just one way or another. It's not making a consious choice, it's finding out what you are, who you are, where you stand and whatfor. So your right on that caco.
I am not above anyone els, i have never been, i will never be, your not, god is not, satan is not, my familie aint, everyone, everything is equal in my eye's. If a guy with a disorder comes into the store to buy something simple like money for his phone and it takes you 1.5 hour to explain things and help him get the money on the phone, i'd do that with the same joy as cleaning the place up with a broom or selling an expensive PC to a rich guy.
I do would like to say that i don't have my doubts on the fact that god or satan are alive, because i know they are. Though i do not wish them into my life, instead of having a faith into one of them or something els religious, i believe in myself, my familie (loved one's) and my friends. If i have a problem or i search someone that i can talk to to well clean up my thoughts and such, i would go to anyone in those area's stated above, not to god, not to satan, not to an angel not to anything like that. I would either solve it myself nomather if it takes 10 years or talk to a loved one or a friend.
I give just as much about any human that is a total stranger to me as i would to a loved one. Though emotionaly, it seems sometimes very differendly
Dear Orchild and CaCoDeMoN,
I sincerely apologize for anything I had said to offend or insult either of you. I realize that I did not mean what I said. When I was posting It was late at night here in America and I wasn't acting myself. I know that we all have different views about the world around us and I should not criticize you for your beliefs. Once again, I am sorry for anything I said and I hope that this won't affect our relationship later it the future.
Sincerely,
Wronski Feint
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I sincerely apologize for anything I had said to offend or insult either of you. I realize that I did not mean what I said. When I was posting It was late at night here in America and I wasn't acting myself. I know that we all have different views about the world around us and I should not criticize you for your beliefs. Once again, I am sorry for anything I said and I hope that this won't affect our relationship later it the future.
Ok. It's nice to see that there are people who have courage to admit that they were wrong.
Quote from: Wronski FeintDear Orchild and CaCoDeMoN,
I sincerely apologize for anything I had said to offend or insult either of you. I realize that I did not mean what I said. When I was posting It was late at night here in America and I wasn't acting myself. I know that we all have different views about the world around us and I should not criticize you for your beliefs. Once again, I am sorry for anything I said and I hope that this won't affect our relationship later it the future.
Sincerely,
Wronski Feint
What caco said is idd the point i would like to make come forward is this post aswell, i appreciate this, it will only affect the future in a positiv way :)
Im glad you accept my apology. I just somtimes get mad at everything. So putting that aside, I hope you have a great day. :wink:
Just school is bitching, my whole life is atm school day and night.. my thoughts are only filled with school, and erm, icecream :o
The war ended YESTERDAY! its FINNISHED! NOBODY ONE!
What are you talking about birdmankalki
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The war ended YESTERDAY! its FINNISHED! NOBODY ONE!
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This is a thread about the War, I just thought I'd let everyone know that its over everything is going to be ok and all is good. It's only the end of the world, as we know it.
I myself have been through what I've termed a reality changeover; this is what is going to happen en masses as we edge nearer 2013. It's a return to source, the source itself being Unmanifested thought (Nothing). Dumiii's will unconsciously choose to return to a state of mind were all manifested thought (Matter) is Unmanifested thought (Nothing), if the lower mind cant deal with this deformation of space, that is can't consciously except its own non-existence then insanity will follow as the changeover is refused and a return to source will be sort in ways in which the lower mind can comprehend. On the other hand if the changeover is realised, a merging of the individual mind takes place with that of the source.
Thus the return to source is happening now and will continue to happen. The return to source will not happen as many have come to expect, for example literal complete physical annihilation of all states of matter but will happen in the simplest obvious way, the utter annihilation of illusion and thus Matter, as we know it.
Where the changeover is resisted Civilisations will fall. Dumiii's that have favoured form and have little understanding of Unmanifested thought will quite simply perish in there own thoughts.
These writings will help any Dumiii's when their changeovers begin to hit them.
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Thus the return to source is happening now and will continue to happen. The return to source will not happen as many have come to expect, for example literal complete physical annihilation of all states of matter but will happen in the simplest obvious way, the utter annihilation of illusion and thus Matter, as we know it.
This sounds like a goal of right hand path. But what of those that are following left hand path? What of those that consciously accept the reality as is, and enjoy it now? Why do everyone could need to "return to source"? If this is some kind of external plan, and is really about to happen, then I will fight to the end and so will many others.
caco, it's nothing bad, you won't lose yourself in it, you won't lose your goals/present life in it. It just changes a little or alot, which way you choose to is up to you. Nobody but yourself controls is.. allways 3 ways, either go with it, against it, or make it to your own hand
demon wars sound fun... ^__^
i wanna join :P
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demon wars sound fun... ^__^
So what's the problem? I am on the demons side already.
Hi again. I had an idea. If the demon war happened and you got demons running toward an army of humans, why not just walk in the middle and break it up? Just explain how dumb it is to be fighting and ask why we cant just get along? :D It could work right?
> If the demon war happened and you got demons running toward an army
> of humans, why not just walk in the middle and break it up? Just explain
> how dumb it is to be fighting and ask why we cant just get along? It could
> work right?
Standing between two opposing armies on the battlefield. Great idea!
if it would hapen then 1) it would not only be demon's vs humans but multiple groeps not having to choose between 2 sides, would be more sides..
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if it would hapen then 1) it would not only be demon's vs humans but multiple groeps not having to choose between 2 sides, would be more sides..
It is happening now and there are two sides that I know of, and the wrost thing is that side considered "good" desires only enslavement and destruction of humanity...
"This sounds like a goal of right hand path. But what of those that are following left hand path? What of those that consciously accept the reality as is, and enjoy it now? Why do everyone could need to "return to source"? If this is some kind of external plan, and is really about to happen, then I will fight to the end and so will many others"
How many paths are there? Is the blood red? Or is it blue?
How will you fight?
Who will you fight?
Your own thoughts will turn on you, as they already have. The many others you speak of will fight using the lower mind, i.e. Physical wars and other ways in which to escape illusion. It will be done the easy way or the hard way, you choose yourself.
Keep cool, all is good and the war is definitely over
Relax and Hear
PULP-The Day After The Revolution
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Relax and Hear
PULP-The Day After The Revolution
Wow! Another Pulp fan!
The revolution begins and ends with you. (Great line)
If you stopped being so feeble, you could have so much more.
I'm listening to it now - it's better than I remember, especially the playout. I'm still listenting to the playout - it's awesome.
I loved them before they were famous! :D
Way off topic, but so what.
Sarah
(=PULP=SHAPELESS-MATTER=)
I was at a pulp concert, front row spot on in the middle, Jarvis Cocker sang,
"I took her to a super market, I don't know why but I had to start it somewhere... so it started there"
He then pointed to me, what a Dumiii!
I like pulp, both types.
Hey Sarah, it sounded better then ever before because you heard it from yourself, that's proper soul contact, proper nice vibrations, funny how it was those words that jumped out at me, those words I wanted quoted, remember what was written at the top of that post?
Remember, I'm ahead of myself, what I said to you I made up on the spot for unknown reasons, can you guess what card I am? You don't use it in that many games...
Dumi's, that's how we conceive ourselves without even being aware of it. You get me?
Hey everyone, hear this
The Jackson's- Can you feel it
Music is the language of our soul!
The soul doesn't need a launguage to be heard and understood..
Quote from: BirdManKalkican you guess what card I am? You don't use it in that many games...
I don't need to guess what card you are - I know!! :wink: :D
Quote from: BirdManKalkiDumi's, that's how we conceive ourselves without even being aware of it. You get me?
No I'm afraid I don't get you, maybe I'm more of a Dumi than most!! :shock:
Sarah
Orchid, well done for stating the obvious, that makes you a Dumi, it's the vibrations, language is also a vibration, when used with music its all vibration, hence the Beach Boys- Good Vibrations
just keep dreaming
I will :wink:
demon war hmmm ...... sounds about right and people who are blind to the energies that surround us wouldn't believe in such a war because TV or any other forms of the media have told us that it's in your head....I know the war is coming i can feel it and see it in my astral travels along with what glory comes after....... I call the astral plain traning ground so we may first learn to use our skill and mater our emotions attached to them so we may be more effective in the war to come...... it's just a theory and nothing astral is usually hard core fact it's just a belief as is the Battle .....we create so much negative energy why wouldn't it materialize after so many years of pain anger hate and war ...time to reap what we sow LOVE AND LIGHT TO ALL OF YOU :D