Prison Planet?

[phaseshiftR1111]

I cannot find one person in this subject who can just simplify an answer except for one person on YouTube who is very knowledgeable and has helped me out a lot. He never goes into the topic of eternity though. Every time I find someone who talks about eternity they use words I never have even heard of or puts things in a perspective I simply do not understand. 

I always get answers like "The biological functions of the (word I don't even know) We are all this... and that... etc etc (another word I never heard of) etc"

I been looking for answers I can understand. Short to the point about eternity.

I believe we never "blip" out of existence as consciousness even if it's light-years from now. We may change and grow. Maybe even exist on other planets to experience other celestial activities? But you will always be you and family will always be part of you. I have a hard time believing we always come back here on earth as humans just to re live pain over and freaking over again. To keep "learning" I don't know how being reincarnated here as a little girl and being chopped up by a person is experiencing.

I mean out of ALL the reality systems out there you can be a part of (including the non physical) Why would you want to keep returning to this place? As George Carlin says ""Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. << Lol. Something is definitely wrong."

Here's the thing, I believe earth is beautiful. I love this place nature wise. There are great people here too. But why would you want to keep coming here? Society has made this place so toxic it's absolutely terrifying. Fluoride in the water... (Read up on that...) I don't want it in my water. What happened to the pure water we had? The fresh healthy water? We don't have that water anymore. It's bottled by coke and pepsi, or we dump oil in the oceans. We slaughter animals daily. Why the hell would you want to keep coming back here?

But anyway. Eternity... I think we are definitely eternal beings. No blipping out of existence or being destroyed. I honestly think we have the ability to do, go, and be whatever we want for ever. There's so much out there that even with eternity you would never stop finding things to learn and experience. Unlike here where you are programmed as a kid and mind controlled and have medications thrown at you for things that are actually normal. Or medications that kill you. You get where I am going.

But yeah... Lately I really think this place is more of a prison planet. I know this is going off "fear" perhaps. I'm living a fear based reality... Idk someone told me that. That makes no sense to me. I am a very positive person (Not so much when writing this because I am a little upset) and I always see horrible things. I go by love. Yet this place is like a playground of destruction.

Now A part of me believes you do come here KNOWING what is going to happen in this life before you come here to experience something. 50 people in a batman premiere showing... having a fun night seeing a movie and they get blown away. Where they coming into this life going hmmm one night in my life... I choose to die by a guy who opens fire in a movie theater. Yeah... I could learn from that!....

Or how about the little kid at the boston marathon bombings? You can't tell me that kid said I am going to come here not for too long... and then have a bomb go off next to me.

I could go on and on about the sick things on this planet. It makes no sense to come back here to me and I see it as a prison planet right now.

Sorry if this was negative but I would like to see your take on it. If society didn't mess up earth so much this place wouldn't be bad at all. 

[Volgerle]

Now A part of me believes you do come here KNOWING what is going to happen in this life before you come here to experience something. 50 people in a batman premiere showing... having a fun night seeing a movie and they get blown away. Where they coming into this life going hmmm one night in my life... I choose to die by a guy who opens fire in a movie theater. Yeah... I could learn from that!....

Or how about the little kid at the boston marathon bombings? You can't tell me that kid said I am going to come here not for too long... and then have a bomb go off next to me.

I don't like the word but I'll drop it nevertheless because it comes to mind as an answer (which might be cynical from a human perspective), so anyway, here we go ...

karma? 

[phaseshiftR1111]

I don't like the word but I'll drop it nevertheless because it comes to mind as an answer (which might be cynical from a human perspective), so anyway, here we go ...

karma?  

I can't argue with that because heck, I don't know. It could be volgerle. I never believed in Karma much but then again I thought astral projection was a joke 5 years ago. Now I practice it daily. Theres lots of different approaches to karma and what it is... But I hear ya. Although... There's toddlers that get struck by cars and die. Little kids that mean no harm at all. I just don't know.

[Stillwater]

Just speculating out loud here... but perhaps not knowing what is really going on is all part of it. Perhaps what we are doing here could only be done in ignorance.

For example, imagine you were playing a computer game, where a character goes on an adventure. If you played it merely as a game, and watched the character as they experienced their world, that is one thing, and certain lessons may be learned that way. Imagine now though, that you were given total amnesia, and you believed that you were that character, and their life was yours, and you had no other. I am sure the things you could learn from that perspective would be much greater.

Maybe it all makes sense when you see the full picture, after the amnesia passes. Maybe it doesn't...

No one can offer you a final satisfying answer. They can tell you go out there and experience the other realities for yourself, and maybe that will be enough for you, and maybe it won't.

It really does seem like we are ignorant for a reason, but who really knows I guess.

If you have no information, just that you are, that you be, why not just learn to be well, if that is the extent of your knowledge?

Grass is green, sun is warm, Daniel-San!

[desert-rat]

You forgot the bio engenered ( franken foods) foods .  On why we keep coming back . Karma with others , love interests ect. Regress your self into past lives , see what is there , let go of the karma . 

[Astralzombie]

Lets go with the theory that as eternal consciousness, we are evolving in to love. Not just learning how to love but to actually be love. I know that sounds like some new age hippy stuff but lets go with that for now since it is one of the most dominate philosophies right now.

To be love, it is not enough to only care deeply for others that love you and treat you right. You would have to love and forgive all those who have wronged you in even the most heinous of ways. Actually, you wouldn't have to forgive them because as love, you never judged them in the first place. Sadly, it takes some unimaginable circumstances to place us in so that we are faced with the lessons that will test us.

Many people are willing to forgive some really bad wrongs but think the lessons of the Bible and other religious books and teachings that tell us to turn the other cheek and to love thy neighbor have loop holes that can be applied under the most extreme circumstances. So it's okay to pick and choose some teachings and take them literally when it suits us just fine, while we dismiss others depending on this, that, or the other.

If a parent loves the murderer of their child, are they crazy or just as "evil" themselves? In either case, not too many people would see them as normal or good parents.

Particularly in America, we are indoctrinated under the illusion that there is such a thing called justice. We just have to have someone punished in some way for doing something wrong against us. Now I know that we can't just let murderers and rapists roam the streets at large and I'm certainly not for that, but when we're busy getting ourselves some payback, we shouldn't kid ourselves thinking that justice has anything to do with it.

But I believe like you do Cody and I also think that we also exist in other "worlds" under different sets of socially acceptable behaviors and norms. How much they differ, I can't begin to say but just look at how much diversity there is in our culture here on Earth. Moral values, political systems, and religious beliefs are just a few of the tools used to keep us separated. Can you imagine just how much better we would be if we thought of ourselves as just Earthlings rather than Americans, English, or Chinese to name a few.

This systemic strategy of divide and conquer only makes sense and wouldn't even be possible, IMO, unless we were being played like puppets.Yes sir, I'm calling this one a conspiracy.

Anyhow, that's just one way to look at it and it isn't necessarily my personal belief.

[sunshaker]

I believe once we stop seeing us as individual entities, and realise we are all ONE,  Here to Experience EVER feeling and emotion, Whether good/bad,ugly, because without one experience the picture would be incomplete,
Good/Bad there is always a balance, every good/bad deed brings a reaction that adds to the whole,

This does not stop at just "humans", we are everything from the air we breathe to the food we eat, From every lifeform that as every exsisted or will exsist,

When we talk of "karma", it is because we are ONE, That if we do a good/bad deed we are doing it to ourselfs, So we reap what we sow.
It is why we feel good when we do something good for "someone else" because we are doing the deed to ourself.

[Szaxx]

Thinking about this. If we all share this in totality there will only be one mindset, one all encompassing emotional state and equilibrium will be maintained too.
The mass mind would work as one. The recent mass meditations with a tiny percentage of the planets population have realised powerful effects.
It would open doors that so few have witnessed the wonders of.
Perhaps cure all ailments and evolve into a mentally aware state where a single conciousness exists in all.
It's beginning to sound like an excursion into the higher frequency non physical experiences we can obtain.
Where do we sign up...

[Chaki]

You should read this:

http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2011/08/love-the-bombs/

Love the Bombs

Do you feel that poverty, war, famine, disease, imprisonment, etc. are all negative experiences that we should avoid as much as possible? Are these scourges that we must rid the planet of? Are they terrible things for anyone to have to experience?

These experiences have been with us for a long time for a very good reason. They help us grow. And so we're going to continue creating them as long as they continue to serve that purpose so well.

From one perspective these experiences may seem wrong or bad. And yet people are experiencing them every day, and your feeling bad isn't making a shred of difference to them. Wars are still being fought, people are still getting cancer, and many don't have access to clean water — despite your best efforts to feel as bad as possible for as long as possible about their crummy situation.

What if you're the one going through such an experience? Again, your feeling bad doesn't help much. If anything it makes things worse and guarantees that the unwanted situation will continue. Feeling bad doesn't typically end wars, hunger, or disease. More likely those negative feelings may help give rise to those events.

Is it noble and ethical to feel bad and then do nothing about it? Complaining about what you don't like doesn't make you a compassionate person. It just makes you feel powerless.

You're not going to change these aspects of reality, not because you don't care about people, but because deep down there's a part of you that recognizes the intrinsic value of such experiences, even if you're not ready to consciously acknowledge that.

From a broader perspective, we can see that the pain involved in such experiences is always temporary, never permanent. It always comes to an end eventually, allowing us to cultivate an awareness of the value of such experiences — a newfound sense of appreciation and gratitude for life.

If you're honest with yourself, you'll see that you don't hate these things or want them to go away. The real truth is that you love them and can't get enough of them. You're just having a hard time coming to terms with this truth since you've been taught to believe it's wrong.

And so you justify your interest in violence by saying that you're just observing it or educating yourself — you're not an active participant, just a concerned bystander. In a similar fashion, you may pay people to slaughter your daily feast of animal flesh, while continuing to pretend you're a nonviolent person.

Which diseases have you cured? Which famines have you fixed? Which wars did you end? If you think these are ethical pursuits, then where's the evidence of your ethics? Are you just lazy? Or it is possible — just maybe — that you don't actually care to spend your life working on any of these things? Aren't you perfectly fine doing something else entirely? Does this mean, as you've been taught to believe, that you're a bad or uncaring person?

Another way to care about people is to recognize that we're more than just physical creatures. We are conscious beings, and all of these seemingly negative experiences serve to fuel our expansion and growth. If all we had was perfect peace, health, abundance, and more, we'd likely be bored to tears and depressed. There would be no basis for appreciating what we have. Gratitude and appreciation exist in a realm of contrast. To appreciate something is to recognize the value of its presence relative to its absence.

When you know sickness, you can appreciate health. When you know violence, you can appreciate peace. When you know imprisonment, you can appreciate freedom.

But you can go way beyond appreciating one side at the expense of the other. When you embrace these opposites, you can learn to appreciate both sides as an integrated whole. You can appreciate war as much as peace, disease as much as health, lack as much as abundance, etc. You can see how war expands your courage, how disease gives you time for solitude and introspection, how imprisonment makes you think deeply about how you use your time.

Some people mistakenly assume that I'd like to eliminate poverty, war, disease, and so on from the world. Perhaps I should want to create a more equitable situation for everyone. I would not like that at all. I value these aspects of reality and appreciate them, and I expect to see them continue.

In the years ahead, I expect to see the gap between rich and poor grow even wider. Some people think this is terrible, but to me it's a good thing — it means more contrast, which will fuel more conscious expansion and growth experiences for all. We will add new layers upon layers as the haves move ever further away from the have-nots in terms of wealth, health, technology, and more.

I expect to see lots of new weapons invented and used as well, and I welcome their arrival. I expect to see new diseases. We have a whole host of new problems ahead. Again, this is wonderful fuel for expansion and growth.

We live in an expanding universe, and it's expanding in all directions, not just the directions you like. Would you rather live in a contracting universe? Would you truly be happy in a world where life is collapsing towards equality, uniformity, and conformity? Would that make you breathe a sigh of relief — knowing that we're reducing contrast over time instead of increasing it? Would that be heaven... or hell?

Whether you agree with this article or not makes little difference to me. I care nothing of convincing you of anything. My job is to stimulate growth by bringing unconscious notions to conscious awareness. But for your own sake, make up your mind about this. If you're serious about putting an end to those unfair, unpleasant, and cruel aspects of human life, then don't waste another precious moment reading my blog when you could be doing the hero thing. If you truly think the world needs rescuing, then quit being lazy, pick a problem to tackle, and go get busy. Or you could ponder the possibility that maybe the world is perfect the way it is, and your relationship to it is what really needs rescuing.