The War of 2012-2014

[Woopaching]

Chew your head off about what??? I just have no clue what you are talking about.

[Cel]

well..last i posted and was active to one liked me for my predictions and beleifs

[Woopaching]

Well could you explain your beliefs? Perhaps explain it in a manner that doesn't seem so disjointed. For example, where is this war? what's usher 9 etc etc.

The main question I would have now is where do your beliefs stem from?

Happily Curious,
Keith

[Cel]

for one my beleifes stem from personal expereance,and research in the real world and on the astral.

Ya know Heaven and Hell? it's a world that's in the astral plane.

The war will be brought upon first in the largest cities of the world and it will soon spread through out the world I presume.

my main beleifes are there are 5 levels of the astral...
The first is the underground, where demons spawn
The second is the plane, a flowery vast feild wherethe oracles are and where expereanced travelers start out in OBE
The third is the Dreamworld , where you dream and stuff,,you automaticly go there when you sleep
The fourth is the city, where most travelers go to have fun and learn stuff
The fifth is theBarrierThe great barrier held by ancient power keeps the boundry with real and astral. Demons will one day get to this level, and kill the two gate keepers that guard it.

An Oracle is: A being that has unnatural power to keep the astral at peace.There are 8 Death,Life,Knowledge,Sleep,Fire,Water,Earth,Wind

A gatekeeper is:One who guards a certain thing, an oracle, a level of the astral, or the barriers.

Ghena is: The mirror of our world that lures the damned to the gates of the afterworld

The afterworld:Where either good or bad go when they die or when they've been bad enough tor heaven but not for hell or repaid their sis but not accepted by heaven.

[Woopaching]

Very interesting... so tell me about your research.

Keith

[Cel]

Basicly mixtures from catholic and christan religon...Luciel cast from heaven and became Lucier gathering fallen angels and sinfull dead to take over heaven. I personaly am on Luciel's side. He fights for the rights of the world that heaven is trying to abolish. Basicly trying to get to Metatron and killing him while he's weak so he can take over heaven and create a new world.
  I also found an old database in the underground that contained information about the demons but it was all written in loa, the first language. The language of the angels in longer term. Iknew it in the back of my head somehow and I can also speak it frequently and write it..and I never had reserched it..I just well..knew it..weird eh?
 Anyway, that taught me about the war and the nodes, nodes are are energy fields every person has a node, every oracle has a node thrice as large...yea 3x.

[mattrox]

so where in the hell are you getting this information?  I've never heard of usher9 or the underground etc. hell is the real time plane and heaven is a higher plane.  There is a barrier that humans can get through but they need to die.  The second barrier is into the true heaven where you die a second time for an eternal life of bliss and happiness ( or so I've read).

[Woopaching]

Or perhaps it's something altogether different and perhaps simpler. *shrugs* There is a saying we use in the theatre when it comes time to open the show.

It is what it is.

Keith

[The AlphaOmega]

What in the heck are you talking about?  Might as well be chinese math for all I know.

[Steel Hawk]

Google has no idea what he's talking about. I tried searching for some of those terms on the same web site, results said "What the dizzle shizzle is Cel-izle smok-nizil-ing?".

However, it is a very unique stand point. I'm curious as to how much experience do you have with astral space Cel? (i.e. OBE's, astral projection, etc)

Also, what is Usher? I assume FA's are fallen angels, and cherubs are angels???

quote:Luciel cast from heaven and became Lucier gathering fallen angels and sinfull dead to take over heaven. I personaly am on Luciel's side. He fights for the rights of the world that heaven is trying to abolish. Basicly trying to get to Metatron and killing him while he's weak so he can take over heaven and create a new world.

Luciel? You mean Lucifer, right? And sin means to make a mistake, sinful would then mean something/someone that is a makes a many/big mistake(s). Well dictionary.com says sinful is:

\Sin"ful\, a. Tainted with, or full of, sin; wicked; iniquitous; criminal; unholy; as, sinful men; sinful thoughts.

"He fights for the rights of the world that heaven is trying to abolish..." Where are you getting this from? Lucifer (who I think is the being your trying to refer to) thought God (Jehovah, Christian God) could be punked, and he could take over and drive God's pimp mobile, and chill with God's crew. However, God was like "Naw Foo!" Gat-Gat and God dropped Lucifer with his chrome plated .45, and Lucifer and his crew of LOSERS (who got punked by God) were kicked out of Beverly Hills and got dropped off in South Central. So how the heck did you get that he fights for our rights??? If he took over chances are the dude would make it worser than it is (supposing the above is true). Homeboy don't care about you, he cares about tinkling the man off by making you do stupid stuff, like jumping off bridges onto oncoming traffic, etc.

Eh.. Not trying to bash your beliefs, but I guess I don't understand. Maybe I'm ignorant. As far as a war starting at the age of Aquarious, who knows?

[Graupel]

I've also had some funny kind of feeling like there would be some kind of war in 2012, but moreso a nuclear fallout "judgement" day sometime in 2012.  I hope it doesn't come true... but on the forum that my mom visits there have also been several predictions about a war specifically in 2012.

[Cel]

To Steel Hawk,
  What I call usher is a closed off part of the astral. Since our astral bodies go there when we sleep they go there when they die. It is called the domain Usher, where heaven and hell lie, hell be ground and the sky be heaven.

Of course you wouldn't find it on google..because google is stupid, aswell as no one who has gone as far to Usher as myself and two of my friends. Usher has been closed off to living beings for centuries, it's now been opened but in a difficult and hidden spot.

As Lucifer goes, it's mostly Tabu. Tabu meaning it's all steriotpyped and stuff. Lucifer was cast out of heaven for his own beleifs and his followers had agreed.(duh) What beleifs you wonder? even back then the world had problems, Lucifer had a vison a vision of today, the ethics down echnology increased way over it's limit. And you see he was right? The worlds ethics are terrible, we have people ODing off narcotics, men raping little girls, innocent being killed, genocide, suicide, barely anyone can be trusted now days, everyone paranoid no one can ever feel safe. and what it metatron doing about this? his followers, the religous beleivers...they've gone blaming people, television, sex, drugs. Yet a while back sex and drugs were used..but not so abused by religon and publicity. Because back then it was normal and no one used it to the point you'de die..it was used to help people...i'll post  the rest later i gotta go

[dkj400]

quote:What I call usher is a closed off part of the astral. Since our astral bodies go there when we sleep they go there when they die. It is called the domain Usher, where heaven and hell lie, hell be ground and the sky be heaven.

Of course you wouldn't find it on google..because google is stupid, aswell as no one who has gone as far to Usher as myself and two of my friends. Usher has been closed off to living beings for centuries, it's now been opened but in a difficult and hidden spot

Thats really interesting. So how do you make your way to Usher? Or cant you tell us because its supposed to be a secret from higher Entities?

[Cel]

I actually can't describe where it is, for one, I havn't been there for a few months. Possibly they had moved the location again. First of all  Usher has a mirror domain and most are tricked into going there instead, the differance of this mirror are the locations heaven is at earth and hell is in the skys.

[mattrox]

really what are you smoking.


all this bs is coming from your own psychotic head

[Cel]

*deeply sighs* See this is why I DON'T post here...I get bullsh*ted for what I think. I dont critisize your beleifs..what gives you the right to slump mine..what am I smoking? don't any of you have any moral to my felings?

well..f*** this...i'm not going to stand here and take it anymore

[Ramiel]

If you want people to believe you then here are some pointers:

1) Write coherent english
2) Back up your statements with fact
3) Look at peoples responses and ask yourself why they say what they say, and if they negatively criticise, understand why and fill in the means for them to do so on that level. If it is positive criticism, pat yourself on the back for getting to a person and having the ability to let them see the truth, at least from your perspective.

Your replies appear to be childish and immature, which detracts from what you're trying to do. Your original statements lack any basis and are filled with information that only you can access, which is where everyone comes in who questions what you smoke (quote unquote)

I'm just trying to make you see your own errors that got you to this place. I am completely impartial. Embrace those that question your beliefs so that you can grow from it - dont condemn them.

Regards,

-Alex

[Woopaching]

Hi Cel,
  I agree with Alex.

Just relax a little. :p

Keith

[mattrox]

and please excuse my lack of understanding.  IM me on aim sometime so that I can learn what you think.

[Steel Hawk]

quote:To Steel Hawk,
What I call usher is a closed off part of the astral. Since our astral bodies go there when we sleep they go there when they die. It is called the domain Usher, where heaven and hell lie, hell be ground and the sky be heaven.

You seem to be talking about a higher plane of astral space. Heaven is the sky, and Hell is the ground? Okay, I can buy that the sky could signify a higher astral plane, and the ground could signify a lower negative astral plane.

quote:Of course you wouldn't find it on google..because google is stupid, aswell as no one who has gone as far to Usher as myself and two of my friends. Usher has been closed off to living beings for centuries, it's now been opened but in a difficult and hidden spot.

Google is extremely knowledgeable... You say you and your two friends are the only (human?) beings who have gone to Usher. This seems suspicious to me, I don't think your in your late tweenties or early thirties so I don't think it's possible for you to have this level of knowledge. Well your web site has your DOB as 5/25/1989 making you what 14 years old? I'm sorry but unless your the true reincarnate of the Dali Lama there is no way you know what your talking about.

quote:As Lucifer goes, it's mostly Tabu. Tabu meaning it's all steriotpyped and stuff. Lucifer was cast out of heaven for his own beleifs and his followers had agreed.(duh)

Yeah... He believed he could over throw God.

quote:What beleifs you wonder? even back then the world had problems, Lucifer had a vison a vision of today, the ethics down echnology increased way over it's limit. And you see he was right? The worlds ethics are terrible, we have people ODing off narcotics, men raping little girls, innocent being killed, genocide, suicide, barely anyone can be trusted now days, everyone paranoid no one can ever feel safe.

READ THE BIBLE and LEARN more before you post this, if your beliefs stem from the Bible that is.

Isaiah 14:13
"For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: . . . "

SATAN / LUCIFER / BEEZLEBUB wanted to OVERTHROW God, but failed.

 

quote:and what it metatron doing about this? his followers, the religous beleivers...they've gone blaming people, television, sex, drugs. Yet a while back sex and drugs were used..but not so abused by religon and publicity. Because back then it was normal and no one used it to the point you'de die..it was used to help people...i'll post the rest later i gotta go

Metatron is an Archangel and a Seraphim who sits beside God. I don't think religious believers (If you mean Christian) follow anyone but God, Jesus, (and sometimes) the Holy Ghost(?). There has always been demoral ethics and activities, technology has just made it more apparent, as well as helped spread it. People are the root of the problem, and must take responisbility for their actions.

You have some interesting beliefs, but I think you need to do more research. Learn more about the Bible, Budishm, the occult, or what not. If I were you at least...

[holy reality]

"The worlds ethics are terrible, we have people ODing off narcotics, men raping little girls, innocent being killed, genocide, suicide, barely anyone can be trusted now days, everyone paranoid no one can ever feel safe. "

How is this any different than the way things have always been since the beginning of time?

Everyone... and I do mean everyone (at least, humans as we know ourselves) has had a "doomsday" to fear.... 2000... 2001.... 1996..... 2012.... May 15 2003

Do you know how many doomsdays there "should have been"?

that's all I have to say about that really... the rest of what you said makes no sense to me and I don't see too much of a reason to believe it over any other set of prophecies and/or beliefs out there.

[Impunity]

quote: "The worlds ethics are terrible, we have people ODing off narcotics, men raping little girls, innocent being killed, genocide, suicide, barely anyone can be trusted now days, everyone paranoid no one can ever feel safe. "

First of all the world is not in a worse state than it used to be, the ethics of the world as a whole are not in a state of degeneration.  What is more likely is you are seeing the view of the world which the media has created, they choose to cover the worst news instead of the best news because it gets more ratings. At least this is the way it is in at least America as it stands at this time.
I feel safe and do not fear these "rapists, murderers, thieves", etc.  But then again, there is nothing I do fear because there is nothing to fear but fear itself.

Secondly, you should not worry about what anybody says about you or your beliefs.  Your thought forms are just as valid as anyone elses, even if they do not conform to the norm, not that anyone's beliefs here necessarily conform to the norm.  Worrying about what people say about us or what people think about us is all a biproduct of the ego, which is what keeps us for viewing things as they truly are.

We must all find our own path and our own path is ever-changing in this glorious instant of time we call life, GO WITH IT!

-"May you find what you are looking for in the places you look for it the least" - me


-Impunity

[Phong]

There should be a rule against calling people psychotic in this forum. Although deeply amusing, in a kettle-said-to-the-pot kind of way, self-respecting individuals will find no reason to post.

And to say that, frankly, is the only reason why I posted in this forum at all.

[clandestino]

Fair point, Phong. Its not necessary to insult people on the forum with terms like psychotic.

But everyone makes mistakes and posts things they regret from time to time.

My main grip here is that people (like me) on this forum get frustrated by kids that come here and post a topic that appears genuine, but it soon turns out to be rubbish....which is a waste of my time.

I don't mean that kids shouldn't post here - far from it. Young people often have far more important things to say than adults.

Anyway this has turned into a bit of a rant - sorry ! Phong, all I meant to say was, please don't be put off posting here by the odd insult...they are rare and usually in the heat of the moment.

Mark

[Anim8r87]

Yo, intersting concept. I find it interesting that you would side with Lucifer, even though he rebelled aginst the holy God, and is supposedly fighting for OUR rights. What rights would that be, exactly? Seems to me that the father of lies, has struck a cord with you. But thats my OPINION, and were all intitles to one, right? Well, besides all that. I find it interesting that your theory comes down to 2012, the same year the mayan calander ends. In fact, alot of cultures predect some thing will happen in 2012. Heres an interesting link, you may add some of the stuff you read, to yer beliefs
http://www.halexandria.org/dward415.htm