What I See, What I Feel

[Orion-]

My entire life I've seen strange things, and felt strange things. Everywhere, and always. I have never really shared this, but today I decided to. I was wondering what other people would think about it. I will try to describe it as good as possible, but for some things it is impossible, like describing the color red to someone who is color blind and can not see red.

When I see our world I see a lot of foolishness. I see death, destruction, suffering, extinction, extortion, corruption and greed. And there's no need for it. Our world is controlled by men in expensive suits, they are destroying it and many people do not know. I see young children being corrupted, bad thoughts being injected into them. I see them changing, and so the cycle continues. People blinded by greed and materialism are in control. When I walk outside I see many blind and empty people, I see how they feel that something is wrong, but that they do not know what it is. They have nearly forgotten what they are, only a subconscious idea remains, and the connection to what they really are has weakened.

Do not think I am depressed or crazy. I'm reasonably happy, and I'm happy that I know what I know and that I am what I am. I also see good things, and hope.

I am young, younger than 18, but I feel old. Every day I feel like I am less part of this, and more of something else. But what is the something else? I almost know. I almost see, I almost understand. But every time I am nearly there, when I nearly find out, it slips away. It's as if I'm missing something, and I really, really want to find out what it is.

So, maybe someone here knows what I'm talking about? Maybe someone can explain it to me, or help me understand? That would be nice. Thank you.

[GodsProxy]

From reading your post, I see you are adept at observing the obvious (obnosis). Congratulations.

We are born into a world of suffering, a world where a few rich people control the world, and who could easily feed the world with one or two of their billions, if they cared to, which they don't. Just like they enjoy marmalade instead of strawberry jam, they just couldn't be bothered. If you're like me, and dare to question the "institution" you don't accept this as a valid excuse.

The wingers say, that's just the way the world is, just accept it and take your Prozac. Not for me. When I woke up I said:

- Why does a spiritual being with infinite potential require pain and operations?
- Why do we, the middle class, drive automobiles without any safety, where at any moment we may land up in a multi-car pile up and be ruined for life?

These are just some of the questions that I asked - that any aware unit would ask - and start to look for answers.

When you find yourself in this situation, appeal to a loving God for help and answers - like I did - and I received no reply - then I knew our Father God had been usurped.

You may care to read my web page for an alternative view on the world - one which has been fought tooth and nail by those in the know - just going to further prove that the most unbelievable assertions are the truth.

Perhaps you will join me in saying - enough is enough - I don't accept "the way things are" - and join me in taking personal responsibility for making this world a better place.

[Orion-]

We are born into a world of suffering, a world where a few rich people control the world, and who could easily feed the world with one or two of their billions, if they cared to, which they don't. Just like they enjoy marmalade instead of strawberry jam, they just couldn't be bothered. If you're like me, and dare to question the "institution" you don't accept this as a valid excuse.

I agree so far, and I do not accept it. I know a lot about why things are how they are, about how it works, and about how to stop this system.

- Why do we, the middle class, drive automobiles without any safety, where at any moment we may land up in a multi-car pile up and be ruined for life?

There is an easy answer to this, you already know it. It's because the rich want to exploit us as much as possible.

- Why does a spiritual being with infinite potential require pain and operations?

Now here I just have to disagree with your explanation. I've read your website, and while I agree that the world needs to be changed, and that love is very important, I disagree with the whole satan ideas.

Why is there pain? Our society is causing most of it. It's not done by satan, god or something else. It's something we can change, and the change is happening. The is no god, no satan. Those are old ideas, made by people who see things, can not find a good explanation, and then make something up. They are also to control the people, by fearing them of hell the church attempts to gain followers.

What could be described as hell is the phase of "not knowing". When a person dies and is freed from his/her body, there is a time where the spirit must find out how things work in this different place.  It's like being a child and trying to learn how to walk, you fall a few times. Eventually you learn how to run. It is also a time of learning what it going on. The person will need to understand that any incorrect assumptions he/she had about death, etc, are incorrect.

I don't think it's a very good idea to put yourself in a weak position. Thinking that there will be hell, and nothing more is not a very good idea. Not only is it not true, but believing this will also make this life a lot worse for you. If you do see this hell then it is just your imagination, and you will need to learn to understand that it is your imagination and fear. If you understand that you are in absolute control of it, then you will find it amusing and you'll be able to make it fade away without any effort at all. For example this fight you talk about where you almost lost: realize that you can not be hurt, and realize that your power is infinite. You cannot lose if you do not want to lose.

Of course this is just what I say about it. Your experience is different, and I know how hard it is to convince people who are determined to believe something. Just try to look at what I said with an open mind.

[GodsProxy]

You're a feisty one

Your optimism is well placed. I change any and all of my opinions at the drop of a hat. Just "show me the money" - the black and white proof - and I'm the first one there.

I'm not going to argue these points with you - all I say, is it look at the obvious, what is right in front of you. (This means - also - read the web page very carefully. It is a warning to the world the state we are in, and we cannot carry on in this fashion. Satan? - I couldn't give two hoots about such a personification. Torture? - I wouldn't give two hoots unless I could actually do something about it.)

You might find you are in a stronger position than you imagined.

[SomeRandom]

I'm sorry to be blunt, but these are obvious things lots of people see.

I cant tell you what youre looking for, only you can do that.

and IMO everything has its purpose and reason, even the bad. Think of the positive effects the bad is creating... For one not feeding the whole world, Think of how many more people there would be if we fed the whole world, we're at 7 billion and growing which is way too many already.

[GodsProxy]

Yes we have been here many times before. In the bad there is abundant good. Evil exists but it is only a point of view.

When one looks from higher up, everyone is just trying to get by on the hand they have been dealt by life.

I'm sorry to be blunt, but these are obvious things lots of people see.

[Orion-]

I'm sorry to be blunt, but these are obvious things lots of people see.

I'm not trying to sound special. I know a lot of people see this, and I know it's obvious. I just wanted to talk about it.

So it's not blunt at all, I probably should have written my first post a bit differently to show that I'm not trying to be special or something like that, but it was late and I was going to bed.

That said, there's some interesting advice here, so thanks for that.

[GodsProxy]

On the contrary,

You are special.
See the obvious - it's a gift.
Talk about it - its the only way we learn and communication is the manna of life.
Learn from others - and refuse to compromise on love and life.

Sounds quite poetic doesn't it? But it is true. Funny coming from me but I am the eternal optimist.

I'm not trying to sound special. I know a lot of people see this, and I know it's obvious. I just wanted to talk about it.

So it's not blunt at all, I probably should have written my first post a bit differently to show that I'm not trying to be special or something like that, but it was late and I was going to bed.

That said, there's some interesting advice here, so thanks for that.

[Astral316]

The materialists will control the material world and innocent people will pay the price, that's the nature of this reality. They lure the masses into an endless cycle of desire for money and status. You can either follow the creed, in which you sink or swim, or take control of your mind... the wider reality. Perhaps this is what you feel you are more apart of, as I'm of a similar mindset.

[Thread Killer]

Sounds as though you are somewhat of a romantic. "Parting is such sweet sorrow", that sort of thing. Un-understood, the feelings of having seen it all at a young age. It is only one of several ways to view your experience. "All sentimental people are betrayed so many times", Earnest Hemingway. With time, hopefully, you will take on a more pragmatic outlook. From this vantage point, you can view even your own life and circumstances with a measure of detachment. Romanticism blows! Give it up asap. You'll sleep better and you won't think of yourself as so god damn special.
                                                                                                               -Jim-

[GodsProxy]

Jim, you're such a party pooper. At our age, their is still plenty of time for love, innocence and romance. Don't deny it from the youngies. There is plenty of love, love, love going around, and especially when you're a teen. Let 'em enjoy the fruits of their youth, that's what I say. Me, I'm still young at heart, and don't mind the concept of free Love.

[Astir]

In my dealings with others (which is hundreds weekly) I have lost interest in healing and helping them.  I am the opposite, I have no expectations, zero faith in mankind.  I've concluded that there are two types of people walking around, the vast majority are unconscious 24 hours a day...everyday...and here and there I run into the ever-conscious ones (which doesn't necessarily mean they won't still annoy me).  Most of the people who have joined this forum are of the ever-conscious variety whether they want to be or not.  You are here because of the magnetism. 

Really...the best anyone can do in life is ignore everyone else and how they live. 

...I wish I could follow my own advice.  It's very difficult to ignore them when they're in your face every minute, obsessing about material things and money or complaining about their trip to Europe or wherever.  Sometimes I nearly vomit in my mouth.  But!  I have never liked people.

[GodsProxy]

Well, meet a concious walking breathing soul. Well met, I hope.

I hob nob mainly with the spirit population, their concerns are based more in reality than the irrelevant hopes and fears of the population of this planet.

Pop another Prozie, darling, is what I say to them

[Orion-]

In my dealings with others (which is hundreds weekly) I have lost interest in healing and helping them.  I am the opposite, I have no expectations, zero faith in mankind.  I've concluded that there are two types of people walking around, the vast majority are unconscious 24 hours a day...everyday...and here and there I run into the ever-conscious ones (which doesn't necessarily mean they won't still annoy me).  Most of the people who have joined this forum are of the ever-conscious variety whether they want to be or not.  You are here because of the magnetism. 

Really...the best anyone can do in life is ignore everyone else and how they live. 

...I wish I could follow my own advice.  It's very difficult to ignore them when they're in your face every minute, obsessing about material things and money or complaining about their trip to Europe or wherever.  Sometimes I nearly vomit in my mouth.  But!  I have never liked people.

I recommend you to give it a try. Some people are very hard to help and convince of other things, but I've had a lot of success with quite some people. It's like they were waiting for more information, waiting for something else. In an extreme case I spoke a lot with someone who was thinking about studying economics, and now he doesn't want to anymore, and he's very happy about it.

Identifying who wants to listen should be easy enough. What I do sometimes is let them watch Zeitgeist: Moving forward (for free on youtube). A very interesting movie, I really recommend it. It doesn't talk about conspiracies and not much about spirituality, so it doesn't scare 'common' people away. What it does is discuss our society and economic/money system, what's wrong with it, why, and what would be a possible way to change it. Usually after people have seen a movie like this with an open mind they start thinking, and then it's possible to discuss it with them and go more in depth.

The system made them unconscious. The only way to do something is by making them conscious. When enough people are conscious things will improve a lot.

[Thread Killer]

Usually after people have seen a movie like this with an open mind they start thinking, and then it's possible to discuss it with them and go more in depth.

This movie, with which you obviously agree, and its message then are what helps to define "open mind" To disagree with the movie and by extension, you, is to be close minded and as you said elsewhere, unconscious. This can be dangerous as the close minded people are probably thinking the same about you.
As I've suggested in a previous post, your perspective would benefit a widening. Then you may feel less alienated from those unconscious losers.