Trying to Project From a Dream... Help?

[KatytheKat]

I have been able to have lucid dreams in the past but I haven't done it in a while and I need help. I want to have a lucid dream so I can project from the dream. I have never projected before but I want to really badly. I read from a link somewhere on this site that you can go to someone else's dream and help them become lucid. Will someone come to my dream, please?

Oh and I also read on some random website that you can pull someone's astral body from their physical while you are projecting. Correct me if this is not true but if it is I would like to try this instead.

[Lionheart]

 Hello Katy and Welcome to the Astral Pulse. If you go to the Welcome to Astral Consciousness section of this forum you will find a number of "stickies" just waiting to answer your questions. You can also check out the Welcome to the Astral FAQs section as well. If after reading those you wish further info, we would be more than happy to oblige.
Good Luck and Safe Travels!  

[KatytheKat]

Thank you but I have already read most of that.

[majour ka]

Hi Katy,

Im personly not convinced about any of that..sorry 

But  if you meditate regularly and become aware of your subtle body/energy body it helps us access more levels of consciousnesses more easily and I find that after mediating allot I sleep deeply but then often become lucid and easily and automatically travel from there,

Im sure that will help you 

[KatytheKat]

Okay. Thanks for that advice.

[Xanth]

I have been able to have lucid dreams in the past but I haven't done it in a while and I need help. I want to have a lucid dream so I can project from the dream. I have never projected before but I want to really badly.

You have some misconceptions as far as I'm concerned.

You *ARE* already projecting when you're in a lucid awareness experience (aka lucid dream).
So if you've had a lucid awareness experience, you've definitely projected.

See, the problem lies in how other people have defined "astral projection" over the ages.  Simply put, any experience where you recognize you're not in this physical reality, is a projection. 

I read from a link somewhere on this site that you can go to someone else's dream and help them become lucid. Will someone come to my dream, please?

Oh and I also read on some random website that you can pull someone's astral body from their physical while you are projecting. Correct me if this is not true but if it is I would like to try this instead.

Well, I've never done it personally, but know of people who have, so it *IS* possible.  The people who said they have done this are a tad more advanced than a beginner.

[roman67]

I have had some lucid dreams but I haven't gone to someone else's dream and help them become lucid. I know it is possible but I haven't tried it yet.

[KatytheKat]

roman67- You should try it. Come to my dream.

Ryan- I got the idea from here: http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_the_astral_faq/how_to_enter_the_astral_from_a_dream-t19319.0.html

[Xanth]

First, realize that that post of Franks was made back in 2002 during the first year he began posting on the Pulse.  His opinion on this subject changed dramatically by the time he stopped posting in 2005.  Franks work in the later parts of 2004 onto 2005 were his best posting years here on the Pulse.  He made much more progress and made many more discoveries.  Here's Franks full post:  http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_projection_experiences/my_latest_obeesque_experience_within_a_dream-t768.0.html

What you need to do is, as you find yourself becoming consciously aware that you are dreaming, try and quit the dream. Do this by switching off the emotional energy you are giving out that is fuelling the on-going dream picture.

Otherwise, if you try and project, what will almost certainly happen is you will "dream" about projecting.

I recognize his metaphors.

First, you can't "dream about projecting" (unless it's only the subject of the dream and not you being actually aware in the dream... ie: you're talking to a friend about projection).
You're either aware that you're dreaming, or you're not aware that you're dreaming.  It really is a binary statement... yes or no.  There's no greyscale with it.  There's no being "almost aware".  But that's not what he's referring to here... he's referring to controlling your mind and emotional state so that you stop providing the "fuel" to the scene around you.  His theory was that if you stopped providing the scene fuel that it would melt away and be replaced by what he called the astral proper.

Although, there's simply no reason to "quit it" in order to project astrally.  If you're aware in the non-physical, you're *already projecting*.  
If you're trying to have a "so called" etheric projection... simply bring your awareness to where in this physical reality you want to perceive and you'll shift there.

Here are a couple posts of mine which should help you with what you're asking:
http://unlimitedboundaries.ca/2012/02/13/how-to-increase-your-chances-of-having-lucid-awareness-experiences-lucid-dreams/ <-- I explain here the best ways you could go about increasing the chances of having lucid awareness experiences (lucid dreams).
http://unlimitedboundaries.ca/2010/09/01/how-i-convert-a-lucid-dream-into-an-astral-projection/ <-- and this post I tell you exactly how I increase my awareness from a lucid awareness to an astral awareness (aka, go from a lucid dream to a full astral projection).

That's

Best way, I found, is to stand still and adopt an air of mild curiosity about one "thing". It might be an area of colour, or any old object. I found it doesn't really matter. Anything just so it gathers your thoughts. Then the dream scenery will shift. Once you are sure you are no-longer dreaming, that is the time to start having a wander around and interacting with your surroundings. At which point there is no need to think about projecting, as you are projecting.

This is "mostly" a good paragraph.  It's, for the most part, what I do when I increase my awareness... although you need to do more than just focus on one "thing".  You need to do that questioning in order to bring forth your full "waking awareness".  The "dream scenery" won't shift... there's no need for it to shift.   Once you focus on one "thing" and ask the questions I mention, that will bring forth your "waking awareness" and you will be astral projecting at that point.

It's really simple!  People try to over-complicate this stuff for some stupid reason... it's almost like they EXPECT it to be hard and that it really couldn't be just that simple.  BUT IT JUST IS!

[Stookie_]

First, you can't "dream about projecting" (unless it's only the subject of the dream and not you being actually aware in the dream... ie: you're talking to a friend about projection).

I've had numerous dreams about projecting where I didn't realize it was a dream. One in particular: I was sitting with a group of people eating, and I suddenly started to feel kind of weak and falling forward into my food, and at the same time started feeling vibrations and had the thought "this is what an OBE feels like" and started floating out of my body... though I never brought any awareness into it, I was just along for the ride. It wasn't at all like what I consider a successful projection.

Of course you can use the argument, "every dream is a projection". In a way that's true, but what makes a real projection in the sense we're all trying to do it is having full awareness of what is going on.

Frank's idea to focus on one thing is to concentrate your awareness so you can then begin to question and place intent, but until you do that, you're stuck in your dream. It's just one of many methods used to raise awareness. If you've already raised sufficient awareness, you can begin interacting within the dream, or shift to another area of consciousness.

[KatytheKat]

Ryan,

Thank you so much for explaining that to me. I appreciate your help and the links. Thank you.

[Xanth]

Ryan,

Thank you so much for explaining that to me. I appreciate your help and the links. Thank you.

You're so very welcome. 
If you have any other questions please don't hesitate to ask or PM me.   

[roman67]

KatytheKat, thanks for inviting me.. lol.. I have read the other thread How to enter in astral from a dream and it is quite interesting.