Visualisations...... so hard

[Mydral]

How many of you have tried to visualise something in your head? It normally works out well, with a bit of practise. We can easily imagine shapes, forms, images... even moving scenes if we try hard. But now try this:

Look at an object infront of you and now see it moving in real time. Whenever I try to do this it goes wrong, I cannot see it moving. I just get still images of it in other places, but no smooth movement. I can however see how it would move if I pick it up and place it somewhere else....
So here is the thing: What if someone can get a perfect real time visualisation of a moving object, would it acctually move?

[MisterJingo]

afaik no. A lot of magick is built around perfecting such visualisation, and i've read of authors who utlise perfect visualisation in their acts and to AP. For example, J.H. Brennen spoke about people who could impose a visualisation perfectly onto reality, so to the person visualising the object with their eyes open, it looked like it was physically there. The only interesting incidenct I have read about was such a visualiser who visualsed a bowl of water at a specific spot on the floor. Someone with a dowsing rod would notice acitivity over the spot the visualisation was at. I have no idea if this tale is true, but I remember it catching my attention at the time I read about it.

[Stookie]

I remember reading about an inventor that would build a machine in his mind and then visualize it running to see how well it would perform and what changes to make before actually building it. Unfortunately, I neither remember what book it was or the name of the inventor.

I've spent a lot of time practicing visualization during meditation, and it really is a skill that a person can learn. When I started, things were vauge, still, and choppy, but now it's easy to visualize myself in a setting and picture movement and details.

I think visualizing is more about concentration - being able to hold something in your mind without distraction is a major key.

[monk-5]

i'm a bit dylexic so yes...

[The Present Moment]

I remember reading about an inventor that would build a machine in his mind and then visualize it running to see how well it would perform and what changes to make before actually building it. Unfortunately, I neither remember what book it was or the name of the inventor.

It was Tesla.

[MisterJingo]

I remember reading about an inventor that would build a machine in his mind and then visualize it running to see how well it would perform and what changes to make before actually building it. Unfortunately, I neither remember what book it was or the name of the inventor.

I've spent a lot of time practicing visualization during meditation, and it really is a skill that a person can learn. When I started, things were vauge, still, and choppy, but now it's easy to visualize myself in a setting and picture movement and details.

I think visualizing is more about concentration - being able to hold something in your mind without distraction is a major key.

In his book 'Astral Doorways' J.H.Brennan gives a series of exercises to increase ones ability to visualise. They take around 10 minutes a day and allows anyone to build the ability to visualise intricate scenes and objects over time. It's not an easy road, it starts out with basics, such as holding a square in your minds eye for as long as possible, but it increases to the level of visualising full rooms, then adding other senses to the visualisation (such as seeing yourself walk around it and touch things etc).
Laziness saw me not practice as much as I'd like to have done, but from what I did experience, the exercises were pretty good for those wishing to increase their visualisation abilities.

[Stookie]

Thats kind of how I started out - I would pick a simple object, like a pencil, and hold it in my mind as long as I could. It was much harder than I thought. As I tried it I remember thinking, "So is the pencil sitting on anything, or just floating? Is there a background behind it or just blackness? Do you visualize blackness or is it just 'there'?" After a while I could see it, touch it, taste it, smell it - really get the senses going. You almost have to form new concepts of visualization itself to do it.

For a long time I stuck to Rudolph Steiner's methods of spiritual development, which included lots of visualization practice. I spent years developing this skill before actually doing much projecting. It could always be improved upon, but I'm glad I took the time. I sometimes have visions during projection attempts - maybe this is why.