Well, everyone's path is their own. Your path is inevitably affected and influenced by those around you and those whom you associate with. However, there's no way to throw off your path, since it's yours no matter how it may change or develop. It's all just part of everything.
Destructive and negative world views? Well, I dunno. Yet again, everyone has their own path. Everyone has their own burdens and their own philosophies based on their life their realizations therein. It's just part of the interaction of others and the crossing/mixing of said paths.
Meh, I have no clue what I'm talking about. :|
Good luck.
I am sorry to see you leave. I have enjoyed reading your posts. I do feel that this is the best forums on these subjects. That does not mean that they are perfect. Like any other forums you have to learn who to listen too. You do not have to read every post, or agree with everything that is said. I do not agree with everything that is posted here, but it is nice to see other views at times. I hope you find what you are looking for and I hope to see you back here sometime.
Good Luck!
Hey, don´t leave the forum! You will still find very nice people and good advices, technical ones at least!
I have been learning some good things, altought many answers to my questions are made with sarcasm and irony, or with an empty mind. But many of the answers to my questions are good too!
About the stars i think you are maybe right, but don´t get wrong with some people. For example, myself...i´m new to the forum and i have 2 (maybe almost 3) stars(!), because i´m really curious (since child, always making all the kind of stupid questions). Besides that, i´m in holidays, so i have plenty of time for studying obes and eventually making my questions. Stars for me are stupid, because when i came to this forum at first time, i thought that the stars were some kind of measure related to astral capacitys, i mean, that someone with 3 or 4 stars it would be an expert in (for example) OOBEs.
But thats wrong, i´m still being a little guy with more fear than anyone when learning OOBEs (fear of the unknown), i never had an oobe and i have 3 stars...
For example, when i end this post i will post something (important to me) related to epilepsy...i´m always making questions and never giving answers...
Forget that kind of people that you think that´s stupid. Your articles are good (last one very nice...didin´t knew that such DNA technique was developed because of OOBEs...) and there are many people reading it.
You sayed that many discussions are immature. I agree with you, but you will find good discussions too, just ignore the people that you think as being immature.
About what you sayed that discussions are weird too, that can have many interpretations...if you mean weird because people is discussing "strange" topics like ufos, ghosts and the like, i disagree with you, because this forum is made (in part) for people that want to talk about that in a serious way (i can´t do that with my friends since they think i´m stupid for talking on that matters...i thinks that the true is, they have fear about that topics). But if you say weird because many people it´s saying stupid things just to get attention or more stars....i agree with you.
I hope that you don´t get out of the forum just because some idiots (wich are a very, very little part from this forum... i suppose![:)])
Hi All,
David, I agree with some of what you said. I have only been posting here since July this year and it took me some time to learn the ropes. Also I did notice some people come in and post like crazy to get higher star status, maybe to be seen as someone worth listening to, I couldn't really say what the motivation was.
But I can say this, there are so many different people from all walks of life here, with so many varied experiences or lack of, and each still has a place here because seeds are being sown in all the members. You David have had some very interesting posts, opinions and thoughts and it would be a loss to this forum if you do leave.
I was once offered some advice when I was going to leave and I would love to share it with you now. It is up to you what you read, if you respond and what you think about all of it. Because we are all different it is difficult to get our true meanings across so that everyone can understand what we are saying in the way that we intended it. And some aggravation is very normal in a large society such as this forum.
Whatever you choose to do MustardSeed, I hope that you have success with it. All the best.
Love always.[:)]
What you see in this forum can be seen in many forums where there is a fair "slice" of people from different minds, habits, societies, etc... So it reflects the world maybe more than anything else.
However, I have see worst forums... I was checking a forum on Shamanism and it was frequented by many drug addicts who get high and then tell about their experience as shamans... Shamanism is more of a philosophy not a way of getting high... even if you get allucinations and see "things".
I have also encountered that kind of posts ("high" people) here and also on a site on Near Death Experience (NDE).
In my personnal life and here I have found that you have to be selective and chose your own posting/people, it is up to each of us to chose our way. If on this forum I find one person interesting I will come back and read her/his postings.
And finally it is also up to us (and to you) to make this forum a better place.
It is true that there are so many topics and so many subjects in each topic, and so many replies on each subject that it is difficult to follow and to influence the happening.
Hi,
This forum, like anywhere else in this world you are ever going to go, is a microcosm...a smaller version of the big picture. You are always going to have other qualities of people at different levels of development and with different needs and motives. If you can understand that, then you probably also realize that leaving the forum will not solve your "problem".
Have you ever considered that maybe there are other lessons which you are learning that these people whom you view as a distraction are actually HELPING you with? The lessons we most need to learn are not always the lessons we are focused on consciously. Before you leave, take a moment to honestly ask yourself if perhaps there is some value here that you are not seeing. Then be willing to listen for the answer.
My experience is that everything we experience in our lives is there to teach us something. The more uncomfortable those experiences make you, the more valuable and important the lessons they are pointing you to are likely to be. Lessons do not go away until you master them. We can choose to learn them now or we can choose to learn them later, but until we do learn them we will continue to experience more and more discomfort from additional situations that keep pointing in the same direction. Consider taking a closer look at what you are feeling and what possible deeper meanings could be there for you to discover. If you do that with honesty and intent, you will always gain something very valuable.
Good luck to you whatever you decide. [:)]
--Soulfire
Jesus Christ is Lord.
Well I hate to see a member leave, at least you have the courage to tell why! Like I have always been taught, you can't learn from a teacher, unless you sit with the students. I have always felt that I can and do learn a lot from other people, if I don't understand something, I ask another. Have a nice journey, and see you when I can ap!
-Best Whishes-
-Tenacious[:P]
ps to the person above me: God is lord, Jesus was his son, don't take offense, nothing personal, just some fun :)
The Astral Pulse forum is a gathering place for people from all over the world. We each come here with different life experiences and are all here because of an interest in the spiritual.
This interest may manifest differently from one person to the next, however the beauty of it is, that the interest is in existence. We can disagree, argue and bring up alternative views, but that's a beautiful thing too.
If there is a post or a comment I don't appreciate, I have to respect that person's right to free speech. All in all, this gathering place is a lot like any other, the difference is the spiritual undercurrent that courses through the forum.
All opinions and posts are of instructive value, in some way. It might not seem so at first glance, but they're there for a reason.
We like to see people who decide to leave for a while consider it a break, if you will, with the intention of coming back at some point. I hope you come back too, Mustardseed.
Very best,
Forums are simply a reflection of real life. Of course you get wierdos and liars, but you also get intellegint and truthful people as well. Sometimes you have to take the bad with the good.
As a follow-up, I thought that this thread would be better suited to Astral Chat, rather than obe discussions. If you disagree, please PM me and we'll work something out. [:)]
Very best,
i'm also a newbie here, and despite my kinda bad start here, i'm enjoying this forum quite a bit. i'll agree with a lot of what you're saying about some of the people in here. sometimes i get pretty irritated at some of the posts. but there are also plenty of people with very interesting, fascinating things to say, and very positive attitudes. i weed through the BS and try to pick up what i can from the good stuff. there's always something to learn from everyone, even the jack*sses (like what are some of the problematic mentalities that exist in the world around us, and maybe learn some of their "logic", and how to deal with it. or, by reading the stupid things some of these people say, it gets everyone's minds working fast & furious, and maybe even helps us to clarify/strengthen even more why we believe what we believe, etc.)
as for downright weird topics....LOL... what do you expect from a forum about "supernatural"/astral/spiritual/mysterious/mystical/etc. things? i would have been extremely surprised to not find some really "weird" topics in here! from the average person's point of view, all of this is weird as hell! and the more one gets involved in these weird practices, the weirder things get. this forum is all about weird! personally, i find all this stuff intriguing, fascinating! sure, some of these people might be full of BS, but it still gets you thinking on possibilities. i've been addicted to reading all the stuff in here. so don't give up on this forum, i'm sure there will still be plenty of things for you to learn. [:)]
well, I hope to read more of your posts at some point in the future, mustardseed !
but if not, then best wishes.
Thankyou for your interest. Very surprising actually. I had thought I would get no follow up to this post at all. I must say that I am still praying and thinking about it and well lets see....maybe I will just do what I told others .....keep my big mouth shut. Ha and then listen.
I would like to suggest something to the forum however and maybe a moderator could give it a thought. I feel there is a need for a sub forum along with the others that would be for Christians (maybe muslims and jews and other s from organized religion)who are having OBEs. Now before you flame me for this hear me out!!. Allthough we live in a big world with many religions , in actuality the only 3 religions who have a history of Mystisic experiences but no actual, present day understanding of this aspect of their faith, available to the public, is Christians Muslims and Jews. It seems to me the Muslims and the Jews are not all that interested and also for the most part more content in their religion. The Christians however have a much bigger spread and it is a very soul shattering experience for a Christian to have OBEs. Its like their whole belief system is rattled and many are thrown into chaos. If there was a forum where they would feel safe to ask questions and people would be interested in helping them understand what is happening it could be very helpful to many. I noticed many here have a Christian belief and have succesfully incorporated OBEs . How about it.
I feel there is a need for a sub forum along with the others that would be for Christians (maybe muslims and jews and other s from organized religion)who are having OBEs
Excellent idea.
My suggestion for the name = "Christian Mysticism"
You know, I am one of "those" members with "a lot of stars" and I can tell you a few things: 1) I don't say I "know the way" nor do I hear a lot of other people say that 2) I didn't get "a lot of stars" by posting a lot on purpose...I don't give a damn about how many stars I have, I have just been around here for a long time and have responded to or posted about a lot of different topics.
I hope you don't leave, that's for sure. I think every member has a lot to offer. We're like a big family if you think about it, we're fun, crazy and dysfunctional![:D]
I would have to agree with you that a lot of people in here don't have a lot of experience, but hey, that's why we're all here: to learn and to communicate.
There are certain members, such as Frank, who I believe have conscious projections on a consistent basis...when you have a real question or issue, email or IM someone like him.
Stick around...you can be the dysfunctional runaway child of the family, ok?
-Dan
Hello,
Ya know after a week i figured out what the stars ment. I dont care I have questions and im not getting "THE ANSWERS" but a variety of answers from opinions and I get to see diffrent views. Some people are passionate about their views and have stong feelings but i have never seen any one say "I am right" probably because they dont want to be proven wrong.
I dont care about the stars I'm not asking anyone to join my one woman army. Im just reading diffrent views. I don't think I have ever thought along the lines of i wouldnt be associatd with people in my day to day life, I just do or dont but its an interesting concept.
I just like seeing my monkey avatr. It makes me happy.
Liz[:P]
quote:
Originally posted by liz mccal
Hello,
but i have never seen any one say "I am right" probably because they dont want to be proven wrong.
No, wait ! We have one ! We have our "inquisitor", a weird one but member of our familly, though [:D]
Hi Mustardseed,
You should think of staying. Every kind of forum is like a family. A great big dysfunctional family. Without all the weird people, it wouldn't be right. It's what makes the Simpsons, or the Family Guy funny!
(That Homer Simpson)
I really like the idea of calling it "Christian Mystisism" very good idea. How about it! maybe someone like Frank could moderate . Ha great observation about the dysfunctional Family. I guess the OBE s is the tie that binds and then I could rightly be the dysfuncional teen that on occasion could yell at you all and scream " I hate you , ...I am sure you are not my real parents" ha ha Anyway I think that You all changed my mind and that I will stick around for a while to see if things are gonna get any .....wierder. lol Thanks for all the input and love. I feel it.
1Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God--this is your spiritual[1] act of worship. 2Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is--his good, pleasing and perfect will.
Mustardseed[|)], good luck on your journey.
If you find all you are looking for and its far beyond anything experienced before by any other, please come back and let us know.[|)][|)][|)]
Hi all
Well I will probably be signing off from the forum and felt like at least explaining why. I have posted since may and read a fair amount of comments but all in all I am having some serious doubts about the forum as a way to learn much. I have several problems and apologize in advance for offending anyone. I realise most of you will probably just say "well bye, suit your self" and thats fair too.
My main concern is that a lot of counsel comes from people with very little life experience , little astral insight very clever words and sometimes a lot of stars. I find it problematic that members attain status solely based on how much they write!!I do realise that we are all free to listen to what we want but find it confusing and more work to have to sort out the good from the bad. Theories are plentyfull and often based on .....nothing! The level of many discussions seem very immature at the least and downright wierd at the most.
My second problem is that many here, are people I would not want to hang with in real life. People who adhere to very destructive and negative world views and I believe it is possible to be "corrupted by the company one keeps". There also seem to be a lot of pride and self agrandishment and feels wrong for me.
It seems that the forum is alike to what is encountered in the astral. A bunch of people all thinking that they know "the way", and all wanting to give their 10 cents worth at all cost. I believe it is very possible or even likely to be led astray from ones path by listening to such a amount of different opinions, a bit like the blind leading the blind. I would like to thank some of you for your kind words and helpful and wise words, some of you, I feel should think pray or whatever they do before they open their big mouth and spout off, and others .......what you sow you will reap.!!!
In any case it has been interesting and I have enjoyed these few months, and ........I got 2 stars. :)
Kind regards to all
Mustardseed