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Hello Shinobi,
Quote from: ShinobiJust curious, really. The Astral Dynamics site reads a bit differently now, but several weeks ago there was a nice disclaimer effectively saying "you're not affiliated with me" and later a note (that's since disappeared) about the story being a long and sad one. Is it the marketing that has begun here? Or the obvious divergence in world view that has recently taken over?
Again, just curious. It's a bit of a bummer, but I look forward to seeing Mr Bruce's new forum, as well as seeing what AP crowd continue to come up with.
Take care,
Shinobi
Thank you for your post and for your observations.
First of all, I would like to assure you that everything continues as normal here, in fact the moderators and I have plans to enhance further the Astral Pulse which is already by far the largest and most respected resources of its type on the Internet.
Robert has a different agenda based on his workshops and books, and I am sure we all wish him well. However, Robert was never very prominent here, and now his objectives are incompatible with the future of the Astral Pulse he is now focussing on his own site.
I would like to make it clear that the Astral Pulse has always been owned and operated by myself, with the invaluable assistance and support of the moderators, and we are together operating this resource entirely for the benefit of the members.
This has been taking place for some time. As many of you know, I have implemented a new newsletter recently, and one that is intended to be of true value rather than the previous one that fundamenally promoted workshops without providing any useful information. Needless to say, the newsletter has been extremely well received.
I would just like to clarify the "marketing" you mention. This is
not an indication of things to come. The marketing to which you refer is for my own book which has I am delighted to say been and continues to be extremely successful, and has been received exceptionally well by the people who have purchased it. I make no apologies for promoting it on the home page of the site, because as those who have purchased it will testify, it does contain an enormous amount of valuable information that compliments the charter of the Astral Pulse extremely well. It does not affect the forums in any way. If other books or products come along from time to time that I believe are of genuine value to our members, then of course I will make them available as a service.
Additionally please keep in mind that the Astral Pulse always has been a free service, notwithstanding the considerable time and money it costs to maintain it. Marketing books of value and other products all help to maintain and strengthem the Astral Pulse in the future.
I hope this clarifies the situation.
Best regards,
Adrian.
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Hello Shinobi,
Quote from: ShinobiAdrian,
Thanks for the thoughtful response. I look forward to continuing to leverage the AP site into the future. Let me also make it clear that I haven't felt the marketing of your book, or Frank's book/newsletter to be oppressive. Those have been very upfront, and I believe in the interest of the members of this forum.
Thanks again for your note. I appreciate your continued efforts in providing this forum for exploration.
Take care,
Shinobi
Thank you very much indeed for your comments and support.
The last thing we want is for anything to become oppressive. If it ever seems that way then please anyone send me an email or private message to discuss it.
The Astral Pulse always has been and always will be members forum, and you can be sure that whatever we do is for the good of the forums and its members.
Best regards,
Adrian.
Hi runlola,
As far as I can imagine, any announcement would be made at RB's own website. Also, just when that will be is up to him. I guess whenever he gets a forum going there.
Very best,
Nick
I didn't even realize that there had been a split. I went to RB's website and clicked forums and the feeling I get from the message was that RB didn't approve of the marketing stuff.
QuoteRobert Bruce is no longer in any way associated with the astral pulse website and forums, and has no connection whatsoever with the products being advertized for sale on these sites.
I know he didn't have a huge presence on the boards anyways, but it is sad that he is starting up his own forums - it just splits the knowledge into two different places. A lot of things that are talked about on these boards don't fit into RB's traditional mystic view of things, so maybe he just wants to set up a place to discuss things in the way he is familiar with.
I imagine there will be a TheJza screen name over there once he gets things rolling...
I saw this a few weeks back on Astral Dynamics. One reason I think this is a good thing is because there will be a wider view than before, rather than just focusing on only techniques by Robert Bruce.
However many topics by Robert Bruce have been provided useful information, and it will be sad if it is no longer provided here, but rather elsewhere.
Jza, I also got the same impression, but I felt that it was really the "marketing", not the actual book itself. Anyhow, I hope Robert Bruce still posts his insight here even if he does start up his own forum.
Thanks
Alex