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Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: Kazbadan on March 09, 2005, 17:08:19
What the hell is happening to the world?! I dont remember to see, during the last year unti the recent one, so many news about changings in the world.

Its like the worlditself get crazy. I only see news about earthquakes, heatwaves in unexpected places (russia) or cold weather as never seen in warm places; i see tsunamis; mountains falling (like the one in USA), to many fires in forests, dryness (my country- so wet, it is suffering with a dangerous dryness since December i think).

Can you explain what the hell is going on?

I think i have a clue...its the man itself. The greater politicians in the world dont care about these problems. They only want to see their reign becoming the richer and richer even if that means to create more pollution and destruction to the world.

Believe me that i am starting to get really scared with this situation.
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: Tom on March 09, 2005, 17:27:43
There have been a lot more weather problems than the ones you listed. I didn't see volcanoes, mudslides, or hurricanes on your list. If you will include problems going beyond just the weather, bird flu looks like it could be a problem. The world isn't ending. It is just a transition period which was overdue.
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: -lines- on March 09, 2005, 17:52:57
News tends to focus on the disasters, on the things that are going wrong with the world. The more newscasts, the more stations that are able to provide footage, then the more the news affects you. If it affects you more, you tend to remember it longer. So, increased new reports and longer coverage results with you remembering more of the disasters that you would otherwise possibly only hear a blurb about it on the news and forget about.
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: Kazbadan on March 09, 2005, 18:00:25
lines, you are correct: in a general way we will see more diasters because of what you said, but i am still thinking this last year there were more disasters than the normal..
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: Share on March 09, 2005, 18:04:29
A mountain fell? :shock: When? Where? I haven't heard of this before.
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: -lines- on March 09, 2005, 18:04:49
Perhaps the number of disasters is dropping, but the coverage of them is increasing. Unless you take your numbers from actual statistics, you cannot make a knowledgable judgement on the amount, seeing as the amount of disasters that occurs to you is dependent on the ones you know about.
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: no_leaf_clover on March 09, 2005, 18:20:54
It isn't a matter of what the news reports, etc. The UN has actually issued a warning that global weather is becoming increasingly erratic and that global warming is the obvious choice for receiving blame. Wasn't reported on much here in the US, and I can't fnd the original article I read, but it sounded pretty severe.

http://www.globalpolicy.org/socecon/envronmt/glowarm.htm
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: -lines- on March 09, 2005, 18:22:27
Global warming doesn't cause all natural disasters.
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: Gandalf on March 09, 2005, 18:41:17
Hi Kasbadan... what you are seeing is a vast improvement of modern media technology so that everything gets reported these days!

The world is just as mad as it always has been, although now you get to know about it!

Welcome to Earth!

Doug
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: Kazbadan on March 09, 2005, 18:48:08
About the mountain that has fallen:

A vast portion of earth from a mountain (or a hill) as fall.  The effect it was similar to an avalanch, and it destroyed some houses.

I saw it on TV, dont remember any details, but it was terrif to see: the earth was flowing like a river, pushing the trees, and everything on its way.
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: Tom on March 09, 2005, 18:52:01
It sounds like the mudslides in California. That has been happening a lot recently. They didn't have enough water before and now they are getting far too much.
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: Kazbadan on March 09, 2005, 19:18:59
maybe its that. But in the news on tv, they sayed that it was so strong that it was like a mountain falling.

Indeed, in the images on tv, you see an huge amount of mutslide, so big, that it leaves the mountain with a big hole. Crazy!

btw: i must clartify my theory: i am not speaking about the end of days or Gaia being mad with us. Maybe that could happen too, but my idea its other.

Its more simple: global changing in the earth due to years of bad treatment to our planet. Pollution , destruction of forests, etc,etc.

Thats the cause of some of the main problems i suppose.
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: -lines- on March 09, 2005, 19:52:01
Weather anomilies caused the increase in rainfall. The rainfall was unusually high and it couldn't be absorbed into the dirt on the hill, ran off, and created a mudslide. The houses that are falling down steep hills are caused by the weight of the houses and the water in the soil causing that part of the hill to collapse. Yes, it happened a bunch within a short period of time, due to the unusual high amount of rainfall in BC and some of the states.
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: Psan on March 10, 2005, 08:56:13
Quote from: GandalfHi Kasbadan... what you are seeing is a vast improvement of modern media technology so that everything gets reported these days!

The world is just as mad as it always has been, although now you get to know about it!

Welcome to Earth!

Doug

Yes !
Don't expose yourself to news so much, and it will go away.
I did the same and I feel very calm inside these days.
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: knucklebrain1970 on March 10, 2005, 11:36:29
All the news is good for is bringing forth mass amounts of fear and TERROR. They've done more damage in the US than the terrorists in the 9/11 attack as far as I'm concerned. I will not allow the news to be watched in my house. I don't even like the TV on.  Look back to the days of the Roman Empire. Are we more violent of a civilization than then? I know that's a little off topic. But yes, Global Warming is real. We're not going to stop it. The Earth is beyond our control for the most part. It controls us, we don't control it.  Furthermore, the world has always been teetering on the brink of extinction. People want to hear about it. People want something to think about. People for the most part are excited to read and hear about end-all scenarios. Till it actually happens. Then we'll all be running around in circles with our tales between our legs like the spineless, limited, underdeveloped species that we are. As for the bird flu, well, what do you think happens, when you have 800,000 chickens in a small area, with workers walking around bare footed, wallowing in feces, feeding ground up dead chickens to chickens? God does not like that stuff, hence the bird flu.

Kevin
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: -lines- on March 10, 2005, 12:59:16
Quote from: knucklebrain1970Furthermore, the world has always been teetering on the brink of extinction.

When did this start happening?
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: daidaluz on March 10, 2005, 14:15:45
It is said that the spiritual energies around the earth , as well as in this solar system and further more, are growing up so we are running closer every day to a huge change. It is said that everyone who does not change its behavior into a more spiritualized one will feel the effects of this increase of spiritual energy.  From many important sources it is said that this spiritual momentum will rich his climax in 2012; but until then the energies will continue to speed up and every time more unusual event will come on screen...
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: knucklebrain1970 on March 10, 2005, 14:45:50
Quote from: daidaluzIt is said that the spiritual energies around the earth , as well as in this solar system and further more, are growing up so we are running closer every day to a huge change. It is said that everyone who does not change its behavior into a more spiritualized one will feel the effects of this increase of spiritual energy.  From many important sources it is said that this spiritual momentum will rich his climax in 2012; but until then the energies will continue to speed up and every time more unusual event will come on screen...

Ok, I'm open to discussion. "It is said" what is said?  Who says? What's happening? Care to expand upon your ideas/thories?

Kevin
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: Psan on March 10, 2005, 16:46:55
knucklebrain, it is easy....think 'deeep'.
energies grow = huge change
energies speedup = unusual events (e.g falling mountains)
Now link it up with 2012. So simple.
We should not doubt when 'many important sources' say this, especially when you are on the brink of extinction.
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: -lines- on March 10, 2005, 18:24:53
As were we at the dawn of the years 1000 and 2000. Yes, we are all extinct now, aren't we?


</sarcasm>
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: knucklebrain1970 on March 10, 2005, 20:14:53
Well I suppose some did not sense my sarcasm in the statement "the world is always teetering on the brink of extinction"

What I meant was that ever since the dawn of time there were prophecies and doomsayers,  stating the exact date that life would end. Now how many times has life ended now? I can't keep track. But 2012 on the other hand. That's been backed up with hard core scientific proof right? So we got 7 years left? Damn, I better start packing for Mars. But on the other hand that's why God made booze and drugs right? Booze and drugs make the pain go away :lol:

Kevin
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: -lines- on March 10, 2005, 20:26:25
Sorry about that, it's rather difficult to pick up the sarcasm in text sometimes.
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: knucklebrain1970 on March 10, 2005, 20:28:58
Fret not my brother. We will all be united as one again in
2012  :twisted:
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: -lines- on March 10, 2005, 21:13:46
Hahaha :D
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: RTCovenant on March 10, 2005, 21:41:12
Someone said something about policticians that don't care.

That is not true, some policticians don't care, but others do. It all depends on who you vote for and who you put in office.

The people can make the change.
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: -lines- on March 10, 2005, 21:45:33
Yeah, polititions are people too.
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: Kazbadan on March 11, 2005, 05:20:19
Its better to remember that i dont believe in 2012 and Mayan prophecies! What i was saying its that its strange to see so many natural disasters. The natural question that follows is: dont you think that we are "hurting" to much the planet?

Sadly USA government dont give a s*** to that. The Kyoto Treatise its something that they dont like... thats very bad!! USA think that they can be in the charge of the wolrd: "Hey, you, Iran people, stop with nuclears weapons- we can have it but you dont- or we will kill you", etc but they dont admit the opposite. Why the hell i dont see a strong country (anyone) sayng: "Hey, you, USA gov, stop with pollution, implement  the Kyoto treatise or we will kill you".

I mean, the stupid USA gov loves to tell to other countrys what they should or should not do, but they dont like the opposite (when other countrys have reason) and the final result will be a very "niiiice" (read: polluted) planet (USA produces 50% pollution in the planet).

Sorry for being so mad, but i am tired of politicians. The only word that they have in dictionary its "money, money, money..."
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: knucklebrain1970 on March 11, 2005, 08:42:31
If it was up to me. I'd have the entire US government put in Federal Prison.
I'd get some young, fresh minds in there. Not 60 year olds that have no concept of reality. Bush is the worst thing that's ever happened to the USA. I hate the way this country is run and wish I could move out. I don't want to hear "it's worse in Iraq" and all that BS. I know it's the best place to live supposedly, that doesn't mean I still can't hate it.

Kevin
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: Kazbadan on March 11, 2005, 15:03:26
I see many people saying "oh, Bush its bad", etc, etc, but i cant understand how americans can say that: they choosed Bush for the President for the second time!! Arrghh! Ok, the first time you didnt knew is thoughts, nut now you know. How could you have choosen him again?!?!?!
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: knucklebrain1970 on March 11, 2005, 15:26:47
We didn't choose him. The corrupt electoral system chose him.
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: daidaluz on March 11, 2005, 15:55:08
Quote from: knucklebrain1970Fret not my brother. We will all be united as one again in
2012  
:twisted:

Well guys , that's why Bush was elected for second time; his plan is to give a more "globalized  agenda" to the USA.    Let's see what's gonna happen in the middle east.
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: Kazbadan on March 11, 2005, 16:00:22
Corrupt? How is that? Can you explain?

btw, sorry if i was mad, but it was not against you..only Bush.
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: knucklebrain1970 on March 11, 2005, 16:10:45
Ohio for instance. Thousands of democratic registered voters votes missing and an abnormal increase in republican voters. More in one county than actual registered voters that exist in that county. There are other examples. It goes on and on and on. There is no honesty, integrity and value left in any governmental system in the USA. I can't wait till my generation is in power. We're the ones that don't vote to begin with. I want nothing to do with the corrupt system. I don't want to hear "if you don't vote, you can't complain"

I pay taxes, pay me $5000 and I'll vote. No actually I still wouldn't it's about pride, not money. Unlike the ego filled pigs that run this sorry excuse for a country. I gotta stop getting involved in these types of posts. I'm trying to repair my wounds about getting upset about this type of stuff and distance myself from governmental discussions and issues. There is no answer. The only answer for me is to just ignore the government and pretend it doesn't exist. It's far beyond repair. It doesn't matter who gets in either, nothing changes. There are too may fat pigs involved. It can't be saved. Oh and BTW, it doesn't matter who gets elected. It's the system that is flawed. Take care guys,  I'm no longer participating in political discussions.

Kevin
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: no_leaf_clover on March 11, 2005, 16:44:12
I agree wholeheartedly. The only thing that's going to put us back in the pure state we were in during the early years of our history, is another revolution, or another similar forceful overthrowing of the current powers.
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: Kazbadan on March 11, 2005, 19:16:50
Its seems that its not only in Portugal that i can find corruption in gov. and stupid politicians.

Portugal its a little different because politicians= clowns with no funnny at all.

Politicians in Portugal are just a bunch of idiots that want money and power and that see themselves as very good politicians and very intelectaul persons.

If you see yourself as a stupid persons, you should look first to all politicians in Portugal and then thinks twice. Compared to them, even if you are stupid, you are so much more inteligent.

And i stop here too my discussion about politics because i really dont like that topic
period
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: Willis on March 12, 2005, 13:14:54
Alright guys (and girls) before we end this topic, my turn...

About all the natural disasters.  Some are man-made in a sense.  Mudslides are happening more and more and are becoming increasingly devistating because of deforestation.  Mudslides in 2004 covered half of Haiti.  A stripped mountanside gave way in rains, and with no forest in place, the mud flowed right down through town and covered the entire village.  Same thing out in California.  Deforestation is happening throughout the world, and these massive mudslides we'll only hear more about.

The tsunami...thousands of coastal acres were stripped of mangroves (coastal dwelling trees that live in the water).  These mangroves had the potential of reducing drastically the damage done by that giant wave.  Satellite pics show one village with mangroves sitting next to another village stripped and the difference in damage is obvious.  Those villagers that lived with the mangroves still there suffered much less casualties.

Global temp through-out the world have warmed on average 1 degree Celcius, causing at least a slight rise in sea level.  But, an average of 1 degree Celcius means that in some locations (especially in the poles) they've seen a rise as much as 5 degrees on average throughout this century, mainly in the last decade.  These increases in temperatures and slight rise in sea level (unoticeable without exacting instrument measurements) are whats causing our beaches here in Florida USA to be eroded at a rate no one has seen.  I've lived in Florida now for 25 years, beach erosion has always been a controllable problem.  It isn't anymore, especially after 4 hurricanes.  And you think 4 hurricanes is bad, the Phillipine Islands I heard got hit with 10 cyclones (hurricanes) in 2004!

Beyond the public eye, there is the 6th mass extinction of species occuring (the last extinction spasm killed the dinosaurs).  Why hasn't the public heard more about this?  First of all, its in the news (check out www.6thmassextinction.com ), but our media has not covered it with the vigor that they cover the break up of Brad and Jennifer.  The politicians don't want to admit it, cause to stop the problem would mean pulling their hands out of the wallets of the industries that are causing the problem.

I could go on and on.  I don't mean to offend anyone, but we all need to stop denying this problem.  We are losing species now at a rate that has surpassed the extinction rate during the previous 5 mass extinctions.  We stand to lose 25% of ALL MAMMALS in the next 50 years or less!  And that statistic does not take into account any species extinctions that are brought about due to global warming.  When global warming is added to the mix, if things stay the same, we are looking at losing 75% OF ALL ANIMAL SPECIES IN 30 YEARS OR LESS.

Yes, the Bush administration has a problem, their hands are too deep in someones pocket.  Of all people who should know, someone at his level should, and he does know.  World leaders and EVERY RESPECTABLE SCIENTIFIC ORGANIZATION is educating him on the problem.  We need change.  We need to educate the people so they can make educated decisions concerning who they are going to put in office.  But really, it is not us that votes these politicians into office, the mass media decides, then they act and convince all of us on the ways of the world and how it should be and who should be voted in.

Please take a second to visit my sites to see how far down this environmental rabbit hole goes.  We are on the brink of environmental collapse.  If you don't believe me, visit my sites and get educated.

http://www.6thmassextinction.com/one_planet_one_life.html
http://www.6thmassextinction.com
http://www.oneplanetonelife.com

Thanks for reading everyone.  I am not trying to promote my sites, I apologize to anyone who gets offended that I posted these links.  I'm just trying to be part of the cure.

Will
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: GypsyWanderer on March 21, 2005, 09:29:21
did anyone hear about the ruins uncovered by the tsunami, could that not have been the sole purpose destiny allowed such a catastrophe involving human life.  imagine the water going out, and then the city of myth far out before you, and then the wave.  it left some lion carved stone. a lion, this means something.  speculate...the world is going to something
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: Kazbadan on March 21, 2005, 16:22:06
Who knows...maye there is something happening to the world: we see people flying in the skys (with AP), we se people with Tk powers more than ever, we see ufos and other strange things. If this things are real (Tke, etc) maybe we are enetering in a kind of new age.

this is just a supposition.

I dont care about that (new era, human transition) to be honest, but i care with more real problems like polltuin, dryness, etc.
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: no_leaf_clover on March 21, 2005, 16:43:19
Willis,

Thanks for the post. It's eye opening. I had heard of the mass extinction problem before but never knew it had already come to such a large scale. As I understand, there is an extreme problem with the amount of coral being lost in the oceans as well. This is bad stuff.
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: Willis on March 25, 2005, 13:11:09
no_leaf,

Coral is suffering badly.  Latest predictions is that the entrire Great Barrier Reef off Australia will be bleached and dead withing 45 years.  Belize's barrier reef, 2nd largest barrier reef in the world (2nd to Australia's) has already lost almost 50% of its coral to bleaching blamed on global warming and recent hurricanes.  Bad stuff indeed.
Title: What the hell is going on with the Earth?
Post by: Ivanda on March 25, 2005, 13:49:02
QuoteCan you explain what the hell is going on?

I think that is exactly what is going on...hell... People should not act so surprised that the earth is shaking, we are part of the reason. Probably the greatest part.