LSD, Mushrooms, etc.

Logic · October 17, 2003, 23:58:37

Well, you can always try making your own psychadelics. Have a look on www.erowid.org . I dont know of anyone or any places in albania..

Blue Giant · October 18, 2003, 00:16:24

Be careful metaphysics,
I'm not telling not to do them...but research them, understand them and know how to work with them. That's all you need is to open a door that is so perplexing that you can't get out.
Rusty

rodentmouse · October 18, 2003, 08:18:52

metaphysics, i STRONLGY recommend doing mushrooms, i did them and was so happy i was crying.

I agree though acid and mushrooms are hard to get a hold of.

You could try to get some salvia divinorum, its legal and raises your consciousness in a way which allows you to explore your own mind and awareness.

But know that you dont really learn anything long lasting as once you come down your experiences are but a vague memory.

you know what i learnt from mushrooms?
they are good.

all the revelations and insights i had about myself and the universe are gone.

Im always gonna take a drug which i havent tried yet, all in the name of learning, experience and growth.

things like mushrooms i think give you a taste of what spiritual practise will eventually allow you to experience without the need for drugs.

its best to keep them seperate from your development, see them as a taste of things to come, not as a tool to help you get it.

Ceriel N · October 18, 2003, 09:37:09

I'm not an avid user of drugs (still very pro of them), but did smoke salvia (Sage, I remember someone calling it) at one occasion. (I'll smoke anything but tobacco. =P) The effects were quite in lines with what you need for spiritual development, so I will second the recommendation. =)

jc84corvette · October 18, 2003, 15:48:52

I wouldnt do em at all but I would get some STRONG marijuana and do it

metaphysics · October 19, 2003, 09:35:14

Thanks for the replies,
I'm actually in Canada, not Albania. In my current situation it's hard to get hold of even pot.

Mustardseed · October 19, 2003, 12:11:42

Well I would advise you to stay away from them. Doing hallucigenics seems to open a door manually that it is often not yet time to open. Sort of getting ahead of things. I have taken some and came out ....marred though wiser, but if I had the oportunity to change the past I would not have done it. Some are much more suceptable to negs in that state than others and you never quite know how your level is till you go there. I have seen people go cracy and never come back from just 1 trip (LSD) and I have seen people return to work after having popped 100s in just a few years. Think it over good my friend and if you must, test the water well before you hop in. Start with 1/4s . You never know how you will react. Make sure you are in familiar surroundings and with people you love and trust who can keep an eye on you, do them in the morning so you have time before the night falls and dont mix them up with anything else, speed alcohol etc. But as I said I would recommend you to stay away from them.[

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Regards Mustardseed

jc84corvette · October 19, 2003, 15:49:56

Yes drugs open new doors for you. If you tried them just for OBE/AP reasons, you are opening the door for long-term use of these drugs.
Sooner or later the gateway drugs, alcohol, mary jane, etc will get you into coke. Coke is NOT GOOD AT ALL! Im exaderating *spellling* a little bit when I say this but you basicly can not do any thing for a day or it will hurt. When you look in the mirror, your face looks real dirty! NEVER DO COKE!

Logic · October 19, 2003, 16:36:15

jc84corvette, the gateway effect was proven psychologically incorrect, since most people who use cocaine would have tried it wether they did smaller drugs or not. Infact, through the legalization of marijuana, people would be less likley to do hard drugs, mainly because of the philosophy of, "pots illegal, might as well do other illegal drugs." Through legalization, more people would use marijuana instead of hard drugs.

jc84corvette · October 20, 2003, 14:37:55

Alcohol and Marijuana are gateway drugs, my personal feeling.

jc84corvette · October 29, 2003, 19:45:28

You can grow shrooms in your house.

Get some morning glory seeds! Make sure you take the toxic coating off if it and eat some seeds. It has the same affect as LSD but its less trippy.

jc84corvette · October 29, 2003, 19:47:04

I forgott to add, those seeds you can get anywhere! You can plant them if you want. You can get the seeds from Wal-Mart, places like t[

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Hyperdimensional · October 29, 2003, 20:57:34

I don't recommend to use peyote, toloache, LSD or mushrooms, the effects last for hours, imagine a "bad trip", could you support hours fighting with your worst nightmares, the hallucinations are real for the person, you can die for fear, you could get crazy, could get in comma forever, you know the risk, it's your decision...

If you are lucky you could have only fantasies and enjoy the experience..

The shamans use it for centuries, but they were prepared...

Best regards

Logic · October 29, 2003, 22:42:46

I don't recommend to use dreaming, astral projection, obeing or nde's, the effects last for hours, imagine a "bad dream", could you support hours fighting with your worst nightmares, the hallucinations are real for the person, you can die for fear, you could get crazy, could get in comma forever, you know the risk, it's your decision...

If you are lucky you could have only fantasies and enjoy the experience..

The shamans use it for centuries, but they were prepared...

Best regards

TheSeeker · October 30, 2003, 07:55:01

Yes, you should try, shrooms are a little happier than acid, eat about 2 caps 4 or 5 stems if you get some. I would just find someone who does drugs and ask them, find your local pothead.
Look up some sites on how to grow shrooms, it's easy/cheap, and you can order the spores.

jc84corvette · October 30, 2003, 13:30:53

Anyone ever try xtasy? I wont ever. That excrement is the death pill for many teens.

TheSeeker · October 30, 2003, 14:38:21

Yes and never again, it can devestating effects on your brain. You can make yourself dependent on the drug to be happy. (read an article in time)

jc84corvette · October 30, 2003, 20:00:29

Yes I heard it makes you dependent on it to be happy. Now thats just bad...

metaphysics · October 17, 2003, 18:18:37

Hello Everyone,
After a fair bit of thinking, I decided that these may be a good idea to try once or twice, so that I can directly experience certain states of consciousness. My 'problem' is that these things aren't very prolific where I am right now, so how on earth do I get hold of them??? PM me if you like.
Regards,
M

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