Wild Asparagus root, other herbs

[eric_l_lewis]

Has any1 tried this or any of these? Which worked best for you to AP or LD?
http://quantumstones.com/7-sensational-herbs-dream-recollection-flying-spirit-communication/

[Lucidityman]

Hi

Eric, no..   my own belief is that if you were to take a herb, a root, a pill, powder.. your experience may seem like you left the body, but that is not a true obe. I know many people want to eat a magical root or smoke a herb and poof, they leave the body or have amazing dream recall. It don't work like that. It might work if your belief in eating say a root that you will obe may work, but then again it comes down to belief. So why not just believe in yourself? instead of looking for food things that may or may not help you obe. Sorry this post was ruff.

[no_leaf_clover]

I've never tried any of these but I have no doubt that they work.  When I first started brewing my own kombucha it also gave me very vivid dreams, and I've come across others who shared the same experience.  Also I have eaten morel mushrooms (a non-psychedelic culinary delicacy) raw, and these also gave me very vivid dreams (of hunting morels in the forest, actually), and I also confirmed this experience with someone else I know.

We were talking about hunting morels (we call them murcles here, an Appalachian corruption of the word "miracle" since they seem to sprout up overnight), and I asked him if he'd ever eaten one raw.  His immediate response was yes, and they gave him "crazy" dreams.  So I'm not the only one to have noticed this from eating raw morels either.

Native Americans and African shamans have used plants like these for various purposes since prehistory, and there is nothing dishonorable or unreal or cheating about the experiences you get from them in my opinion.  It's just another set of tools at our disposal, the "plant teachers" as they are called, and it is what it is.


I've also read Robert Bruce's books on astral projection and I know about his writings on the "real time zone," but I've never experienced anything like that, and though I've had what I consider to be many lucid dreams, I'm a skeptical kind of person by nature and have never been able to convince myself that lucid dreams and astral projection are in reality two different things.  I believe the soul is inherently non-local, and consciousness only experiences the perception of movement and location.  I also believe that consciousnesses "outside" of my own have contacted me within my dreams before, so this is not something limited to astral projection, and further makes me question the difference.  I'll be the first to admit that I could always be wrong.