hello
last night when i was laying in bed i wonderd
the most people on this forum all have something in common
they all have their opinions and cool standarded sentences
can it be that they are here to show off their ego-overrated opinions and throwing their sentences around to get an extra boost?
this would mean that their experiences beeing out of the body is just something they come up with to be special? they watch spider man movie, now trying to be spider man?
"experience it for yourself man!" you people feel so cool saying that? because it underlines that you are doeing something special which everybody should do
maybe you never been out of your body, it is lucid dreaming, just one topic, not 1000th?
who knows who knows
tell me what you think about this, or do you feel that urge of beeing better then others? tell me about the experience of wanting to be special, how does it feel? did it really cause all theese minds to come up with crazy theorys?
its important to clarify this because many people maybe see this forum and think that there is something amazing here, also would waste time on this
with best regards
alfalfa
I haven't been on this site very long, the reason i fell apon this site is i was terrified after my first experience and i needed to talk to somebody who has had a similar experience. So i googled and found this and thank god i did as i'm not afraid anymore. I don't think these people are ill at all. I'm not sure who you are but what is the reason you are here ?
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Quote from: alfalfa on May 03, 2011, 06:21:06
the most people on this forum all have something in common
they all have their opinions and cool standarded sentences
can it be that they are here to show off their ego-overrated opinions and throwing their sentences around to get an extra boost? ...do you feel that urge of beeing better then others? tell me about the experience of wanting to be special, how does it feel? did it really cause all theese minds to come up with crazy theorys?
None of these theories are crazy, some are even scientifically based. Many people here are rational, but not the kind of rational that you understand. It is a "thinking-out-of-the-box" rationality, which is not shared or understood by left-brain materialists - like you. Try to see the bigger picture, try to gain a holistic view and you will understand. As long as you don't try, you will not understand most people on this forum. You see only a narrow-minded little picture and the dogma dictated to you by the 'mainstream' and people you call 'scientists'.
And why always indirectly insulting people who share their experiences here? Isn't it rather YOU that wants to feel great here?
My suggestion: if YOU want to feel so ego-boosted and great (and I guess that's the case here) why don't you go back to where obviously you came from? I guess it was a James Randi forum or any 'skeptics society' or any similar 'club'? There you will find a lot of like-minded "little-picture-rational" people and many will applaud your views there. Then your ego will feel great. It seems (unlike most people here) that YOU really need this. :-)
Didn't you already make this thread? Critical analysis of the members here seems to be all you ever talk about.
I know I'm spinning my wheels here, but forget the theoretical science involved for a minute... is it that difficult to imagine a dream in which you're fully aware and lucid? This is a legit question that you should give some thought to and answer if you wish to understand.
yeye keep talking , i dont belive u, u just fakers
oh man u guys really showd me, tough boys right there uh uh uh
oh man im really sorry : (
Boredom must be tough.
oh it hurts so much astral, u hurt me so much with ur words :cry:
Oh jeez, I didn't mean to do that. Well on behalf of everyone on the Pulse I'd like to say...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4PGBSptYCI
@OP Please accept that the out of body experience phenomenon DOES happen. Hence we can clarify that this forum is useful for people who DO experience this phenomenon, to come forward and share their experiences with people who show interest, curiosity and even guidance.
Let me clear the entire scene up now :: Try to imagine please OP, that your ordinary, habitual lifestyle becomes interrupted by an event which appears to you in every way as reality, yet you know deep down it is not because that is not where your memory last left off. The experience shocks you firstly, it creates feelings and choices which you never before knew you had, its refreshing and even makes you believe that there is more to life and reality than first meets the eye. So you come here, with the experience and you ACCEPT this "unknown", that is exactly what it is, an unknown because no scientist so far has proven or dis-proven completely the causes of it.
So now I question you thee further... If they haven't done that, what are YOU going to do to change the records? Let me also say that I am not against you, but that everyone who believes something , believes they have sufficient reasons to have that belief. So really what you are suggesting is that they have a deeper motive, relating to their ego, to talk happily about these things and make such a big deal out of the whole thing? Okay, well my take on it, is that, they have been "inspired" by the whole idea and experience. Its warped their emotions, please do not hate or attack these people, just understand them, have empathy, and although you may be correct for having the will power from your perspective to ignore the emotional, experiencing FACTORS which contribute to a person having these beliefs, they however, do not have that will power or understanding.
Now this little topic brings me on to talk about the guy who took the side of the "thinking out of the box". I think because you come across to be an intelligent man, I can put it quite simply to you as this ... " None of us know how many boxes we are in , Neither do we know how many boxes someone over the internet, or someone sitting next to us are in " . So before you are so eager to use the term " thinking outside the box ", please bare that in mind.
I am very interested in the OBE subject ... however I have come to accept that I cannot control the minds of any individual, so if I have any problems or disagreements with another persons' view, there is nothing I can do , except show my opinion and try to help others to understand what I do. ( This is also what you are doing to myself and others, and I thank you incredibly for that )
Now narrow-mined or not, I'm so far a materialist assumptionist and i'm proud to say that. Second to that, we are not special or gifted in any high form to my knowledge, other than the force of evolution.
peace & love
d3nd3
xxx
Dont feed the trolls....
Alfalfa... If you hate it here so much then get the hell out? Why spend so much time on a message board on a topic of which you claim to not believe?
Hey it's alfalfa's partner in grime! Didn't see that coming.
Quote from: Dazino on May 03, 2011, 09:38:18
Dont feed the trolls....
I don't feed trolls, I have fun with them. :wink:
Quote from: Pritchmr on May 03, 2011, 09:43:01
Alfalfa... If you hate it here so much then get the hell out? Why spend so much time on a message board on a topic of which you claim to not believe?
ok , im really really sorry :cry:
Alfalfa I never read most of the posts in this thread because i am in kind of a rush. I dunno wether your just a hater about to start trouble or wether you are about to give us some constructive critism but anyways here is a reply to the question you asked.
Firstly, maybe some people have nt projected and there just full of excrement but i guarantee more than half the people online has had genuine astral projection experiences. I have been mentioning this a lot lately but for the sake of your ignorance i ll mention it again............... in the opening chapter of one of monroes books he says that the layman will soon realise to keep these experiences to himself in order to prevent grieve from people just like you or from been considered mentally ill. so you see in everyday life there is not many people who will openly have a conversation about this. I read a recent post on here about a guy getting maced because of conversing about this and hey even if they did decide to converse with us regarding projection they probally would not know much about it because they have nt experienced it. so here is a great place for us because we can ask questions and get good answers and share stories about our experinces with like minded people.
Now then mr psychologist lad trying to analysis all of us why dont you tell us why you are on this site filled with as you stated "mentally ill people with ego centric pertsonalities who think there special" . why do you wanna be in a forum of bullshittters? Why you reading these posts if there bovine excrement? from just reading your posts i see that your saying we think were special . just like transanctional anyalsis ..am not ok, your ok blah blah bblah but the fact that your moaning on about this goes to show that you want to be special. your the guy grieving us because you think we think were special when you want to be special
secondly.....if you never meant this post offensive then i am sorry for seeming offensive towards you but if you are just been a twat then go fuk yourself
take care
Some Theories :: Guesses :: and crazy assumptions !!
mb its two types of people , people who seek definate answers and comfort from a truth
and people who don't seek a definate answer, accept the world to infintely crazy and many many possibiltieis.
but why they would do that ?
i think its a counter - force to the control of their lives by the government ( behavioural world they been brought up in )
they feel like they been controlled entire life -- so they have to create crazy views to counter that feeling
they been told to belief things, that's a form of control too
when he says "constructs" "structures", he means like :: materialist constructs, but that's wrong no? we saw the atom in a picture , the atom is real, you can't say no to it :P
its like they don't even respect a ball moving, and the consequences of a ball moving to even bother them - like oh its fake, the ball isn't really moving its just a picture !
but that's reality ! what else are they seeking for.
i am open to more features inside the "world system" .. i just don't see any evidence for them yet, that's all
Quote from: Fourthdimension on May 03, 2011, 09:52:31
Alfalfa I never read most of the posts in this thread because i am in kind of a rush. I dunno wether your just a hater about to start trouble or wether you are about to give us some constructive critism but anyways here is a reply to the question you asked.
Firstly, maybe some people have nt projected and there just full of excrement but i guarantee more than half the people online has had genuine astral projection experiences. I have been mentioning this a lot lately but for the sake of your ignorance i ll mention it again............... in the opening chapter of one of monroes books he says that the layman will soon realise to keep these experiences to himself in order to prevent grieve from people just like you or from been considered mentally ill. so you see in everyday life there is not many people who will openly have a conversation about this. I read a recent post on here about a guy getting maced because of conversing about this and hey even if they did decide to converse with us regarding projection they probally would not know much about it because they have nt experienced it. so here is a great place for us because we can ask questions and get good answers and share stories about our experinces with like minded people.
Now then mr psychologist lad trying to analysis all of us why dont you tell us why you are on this site filled with as you stated "mentally ill people with ego centric pertsonalities who think there special" . why do you wanna be in a forum of bullshittters? Why you reading these posts if there bovine excrement? from just reading your posts i see that your saying we think were special . just like transanctional anyalsis ..am not ok, your ok blah blah bblah but the fact that your moaning on about this goes to show that you want to be special. your the guy grieving us because you think we think were special when you want to be special
secondly.....if you never meant this post offensive then i am sorry for seeming offensive towards you but if you are just been a twat then go fuk yourself
take care
i am here to cause trouble and insult others, i see you are too :D nice to meet you
oh man u dont read my posts, thats not fair, i am the second most intelligent person posting here on the forum
yes i wont allow you to have conversations here too, someone needs to do the job and get u nutcakes under control
Quote from: d3nd3 on May 03, 2011, 09:54:05
its like they don't even respect a ball moving, and the consequences of a ball moving to even bother them - like oh its fake, the ball isn't really moving its just a picture !
Balls should be stationary damn it! I mean, how the hell can it earn my respect when it's just rolling along? Will friction EVER slow that bad larry down? Newton's first law of motion at it's finest I'll tell ya!
lol wtf astral, you reall enjoy sarkasm and stuff dont u xD
i on the other hand despite it, its just to show off and talk big...
why twirl your words around? you dont want to be understood? because if people think "oh man i cant understand him" u like think ur so cool for talking difficult? ur not ...
oh man lol u so low :)
wanting to be a bad butt and so cool knowing all the stuff without really putting effort in it, just useing sarkasm and tricks lol xD
Quote from: Dazino on May 03, 2011, 09:38:18
Dont feed the trolls....
there u feeding me right there and now, thank you mr.hypocrite
He isn't in troll mode :: and who is there to say that he is or isn't in troll mode :: god please stop this lies , you are breaking apart the system of communications and free speech :: it irritates me hardly when you try to influence others to believe your lies :: if you haven't got anything to contribute to this topic on the subject of this topic :: then get out :: now this post i am making now , its here for you! so you are the cause not me.. :: and besides it ties nicely into the OP view of why you are acting in such pathetic ways in which you are...
peace & love d3nd3
xxx
Quote from: alfalfa on May 03, 2011, 10:21:00
there u feeding me right there and now, thank you mr.hypocrite
Well.. how does it taste? Sweet or savory? Is it filling you or are you still empty inside, starving? Are you hoping that next bite will cure that subtle yet chronic pain in the pit of your stomach? Or is it merely a distraction? Do tell.
Quote from: Volgerle on May 03, 2011, 08:04:38
None of these theories are crazy, some are even scientifically based. Many people here are rational, but not the kind of rational that you understand. It is a "thinking-out-of-the-box" rationality, which is not shared or understood by left-brain materialists - like you. Try to see the bigger picture, try to gain a holistic view and you will understand. As long as you don't try, you will not understand most people on this forum. You see only a narrow-minded little picture and the dogma dictated to you by the 'mainstream' and people you call 'scientists'.
And why always indirectly insulting people who share their experiences here? Isn't it rather YOU that wants to feel great here?
My suggestion: if YOU want to feel so ego-boosted and great (and I guess that's the case here) why don't you go back to where obviously you came from? I guess it was a James Randi forum or any 'skeptics society' or any similar 'club'? There you will find a lot of like-minded "little-picture-rational" people and many will applaud your views there. Then your ego will feel great. It seems (unlike most people here) that YOU really need this. :-)
ok this person right here seems to feel attacked by my post, is he ashamed? did my post hit in the black? why else would he feel attacked? i even talked in a very powerless way, still he feels attacked and comes here to throw around with his opinions and assumptions
this worrys me because it is carrying my idea on
this talk here does not matter much anyway, yes just experience it! here u can just have a bit fun talkin with others about a topic
yes people are pushing themselves to be good humans with this topic, but that doesnt mean that it doesnt exist, it doesnt mean they created this because of it, not all people do this and still they here
so i will keep researching and trying as hard as allways to have an obe, still since i have so much fun useing my logic and my thoughts to talk to you people i will probably create more topics :D
we can learn alot if we think and use logic here, thats really nice, its a nice place for learning by doeing :)
so admins please dont ban me, the type of person i acted here today was not me, i did it because it seemd people like to see such types of personalitys because then they can be released that they are not like this and feel good
i wish you a great day, i hope you enjoyed the show
Till next time!
best regards
alfalfa
Y'all get +1 Internetz.
alfalfa & d3nd3,
May I ask how your "practices" are coming along then? Are you stuck anywhere in particular that we might be able to give you a hand with?
hm i duno, had lucid dream about several minutes yesterday, that was kinda new to me
found out that i get lucid when i see sexy girls in my dream, because i want to bonk them it wakes me up
you can help me by makeing me dream about sexy girls mb :-D
if you want to put effort in helping me u can add me in skype and have conversation with me
but i think i rather focus on other stuff, this is just little topic when im borred or when im asleep
Quote from: d3nd3 on May 03, 2011, 09:37:02..................
peace & love
d3nd3
xxx
t.l., d.r. (I'm sorry. :-D)
btw: alfalfa = d3nd3 --> bored troll, Randi disciple and multi-account faker :evil:
I've personally never felt a sense of superiority by sharing my experiences on this website, hell in the time I've been a member of this website I've only had four experiences I can honestly say were projections, maybe a few more but if there's room for doubt in my mind i don't count it as a genuine experience, I have managed to have two of my projections verified, which i'm very proud of. I suggest you research OOB/NDE phenomena, there's a lot of compelling evidence out there if you're prepared to look for it. I can cite some sources if you want, but that's up to you.
No one's better than anyone, we're all aspects of the same consciousness.
you may choose a different arena for you ego blathering, but you're no different alfalfa. an annoying moron who spouts off at the mouth because s/he thinks they know more than someone else. i just don't understand why you don't see how what you do is identical to what you are denouncing.
if i were mod you'd be banned by now, perhaps i can campaign to get it done.
Quote from: alfalfa on May 03, 2011, 13:25:11
but i think i rather focus on other stuff, this is just little topic when im borred or when im asleep
"other stuff"?
This is the very off-topic section of the forums... you're relatively free to discuss almost anything you want here, as long as it's not harassing/demeaning or anything else negative towards the forum or other members.
On the rest of the forum, please try to remain on-topic as much as possible.
Thanks. :)
Quote from: personalreality on May 03, 2011, 16:05:18
if i were mod you'd be banned by now, perhaps i can campaign to get it done.
I can definitely talk to Stookie about it. ^_~
If enough people complain. LoL >_>
we allowed it long enough.
i'm getting bored with alfalfa and his/her companion (or other name).
Quote from: personalreality on May 03, 2011, 16:09:13
we allowed it long enough.
i'm getting bored with alfalfa and his/her companion (or other name).
For now, we can just ignore him. :)
... assuming he doesn't actually want to learn anything.
The guy's a joke. I don't mind him been on here though, he's actually making me laugh with with narrow mindedness, and his childish retorts do nothing else but make him look rather stupid. :lol:
Quote from: personalreality on May 03, 2011, 16:05:18
you may choose a different arena for you ego blathering, but you're no different alfalfa. an annoying moron who spouts off at the mouth because s/he thinks they know more than someone else. i just don't understand why you don't see how what you do is identical to what you are denouncing.
if i were mod you'd be banned by now, perhaps i can campaign to get it done.
oh you seem very upset about me, may i ask why?
are you confused? , i think that because u make assumptions and judgements about me, is there reasoning to why u say that? firstly i never claimd to not have problems or even suffer from the very same thing i am describing, why do you get up and make urself the work? thats kinda off topic no? u should maybe send me a private message with your foxy opinions
Quote from: Volgerle on May 03, 2011, 14:53:41
t.l., d.r. (I'm sorry. :-D)
btw: alfalfa = d3nd3 --> bored troll, Randi disciple and multi-account faker :evil:
d3nd3 is a close friend of mine, thanks for the flowers, i take it as compliment if u say i am like him because he is my idol :)
Quote from: Xanth on May 03, 2011, 16:07:08
"other stuff"?
This is the very off-topic section of the forums... you're relatively free to discuss almost anything you want here, as long as it's not harassing/demeaning or anything else negative towards the forum or other members.
On the rest of the forum, please try to remain on-topic as much as possible.
Thanks. :)
ok dude :)
Quote from: Xanth on May 03, 2011, 16:08:00
I can definitely talk to Stookie about it. ^_~
If enough people complain. LoL >_>
oh yes , if too many people complain about me you should definately do that , maybe then i will learn not to cause so much trouble :P
Quote from: personalreality on May 03, 2011, 16:09:13
we allowed it long enough.
i'm getting bored with alfalfa and his/her companion (or other name).
but im giving you great show : , ( why u dont appreciate? maybe tell me what you like or dislike so i can make the next show more for your taste
btw, i think u rock! so i hope i can calm your negative feelings towards me :P
Quote from: daytona955 on May 03, 2011, 16:56:10
The guy's a joke. I don't mind him been on here though, he's actually making me laugh with with narrow mindedness, and his childish retorts do nothing else but make him look rather stupid. :lol:
i am glad that i can atleast bring you to some laughters :D
do you mind me explaining why u think im narrow minded and childish? and stupid?i am very eager to learn out of your observations
i allways like criticizm , i welcome it very much so dont mind sending me message or something :)
there is nothing but a good argument to get those brain cells working^^
Quote from: Mattoid on May 03, 2011, 15:57:30
I've personally never felt a sense of superiority by sharing my experiences on this website, hell in the time I've been a member of this website I've only had four experiences I can honestly say were projections, maybe a few more but if there's room for doubt in my mind i don't count it as a genuine experience, I have managed to have two of my projections verified, which i'm very proud of. I suggest you research OOB/NDE phenomena, there's a lot of compelling evidence out there if you're prepared to look for it. I can cite some sources if you want, but that's up to you.
No one's better than anyone, we're all aspects of the same consciousness.
ok the best comment since long!!! i am very very very very intrested in that evidence u talk about
also i will check out the OOB/NDE phenomena
i very welcome your sources, u can write me message or add me in skype, my nick name in skype is d3cammy :)
haha if i find out that i can get evidence while sitting on my lazy butt i will so start takeing this obe stuff seriouse, i will do nothing else !! haha
i hope i didnt upset too many people here^^ maybe u can take it with humor like i intended it :P
best regards
alfalfa
you didn't offend or upset me personally in any way.
i'm just tired of you. i'm bored by you.
since i noticed you posting, I haven't seen anything legit contribution to any topic on the forum. all you've posted is your mission statement for the 'clan of idiots who regurgitate cliche knowledge that we all already learned when we watched the Matrix'.
if you want to be an actual member of this forum and not just a sideshow act then do it. otherwise leave because your song and dance lost its novelty after the first post.
that's all.
Quote from: personalreality on May 03, 2011, 18:18:01
you didn't offend or upset me personally in any way.
i'm just tired of you. i'm bored by you.
since i noticed you posting, I haven't seen anything legit contribution to any topic on the forum. all you've posted is your mission statement for the 'clan of idiots who regurgitate cliche knowledge that we all already learned when we watched the Matrix'.
if you want to be an actual member of this forum and not just a sideshow act then do it. otherwise leave because your song and dance lost its novelty after the first post.
that's all.
why am i tireing u? mb if u dont like my posts... dont read them? i am trying to contribute deep knowledge of why things maybe happening, just because it is not all magical and shiny, rather something simple you create such accusations? i am trying to find out the truth, to do this you also have to dig and the dirty spots, i dont understand what u mean with mission? clan of idiots?. .. .? sorry not ringing a bell, mb u can tell me the topic which u talk about?
Quote from: alfalfa on May 03, 2011, 18:35:50
why am i tireing u? mb if u dont like my posts... dont read them? i am trying to contribute deep knowledge of why things maybe happening, just because it is not all magical and shiny, rather something simple you create such accusations? i am trying to find out the truth, to do this you also have to dig and the dirty spots, i dont understand what u mean with mission? clan of idiots?. .. .? sorry not ringing a bell, mb u can tell me the topic which u talk about?
What "deep knowledge" would you be referring to?
here i been analysing the problem that people maybe make up stuff to be special
i said this to your partner in crime, be aware of your tone.
myself and others have seen little except you and your friend harassing people for trying to achieve something.
look at the title of this post, "you are mentally ill?"
i can understand poor translation, but even if you meant "are you mentally ill?", you're still accusing members of being psychologically disturbed, needy and little more than children who can't control their ego and pride. unnecessary. the same point can be made without attack.
i don't even disagree with most of your posts, i disagree with your delivery. you're rude and that turns people off. even in your replies, supposedly trying to clear up a misunderstanding of intent, you still hold your nose to the sky and continue accusing.
i don't want you to make your statements all "shiny and magical", i would prefer that you didn't.
I'm also complaining about both of them "officially". I haven't seen anything of any value except insults and amused contempt.
So, *thumbs down* , FWTW.
Alfalfa is just jealous.
Quote from: CFTraveler on May 03, 2011, 20:06:00
I'm also complaining about both of them "officially". I haven't seen anything of any value except insults and amused contempt.
So, *thumbs down* , FWTW.
I echo this sentiment...
Also unless you want to improve your typewriting skills there's no sense in trying to reason with a troll... troll handling 101.
Quote from: personalreality on May 03, 2011, 19:55:50
i said this to your partner in crime, be aware of your tone.
myself and others have seen little except you and your friend harassing people for trying to achieve something.
look at the title of this post, "you are mentally ill?"
i can understand poor translation, but even if you meant "are you mentally ill?", you're still accusing members of being psychologically disturbed, needy and little more than children who can't control their ego and pride. unnecessary. the same point can be made without attack.
i don't even disagree with most of your posts, i disagree with your delivery. you're rude and that turns people off. even in your replies, supposedly trying to clear up a misunderstanding of intent, you still hold your nose to the sky and continue accusing.
i don't want you to make your statements all "shiny and magical", i would prefer that you didn't.
im asking a question, its the topic of this topic
i disagree with your understandment
and i am very aware of my tone but thank you
you feel attacked by my very direct way of acting, you can assume that one would do that because they dont accept that other people have different views
so really i am rather testing you, funny little tests, ... for science
i am trying to understand the way the brain is working and so i analyse peoples reactions
really i am a neutral person and you cant really judge me the way you would love to because i am not that person, you cannot define me with such silly statements
Quote from: CFTraveler on May 03, 2011, 20:06:00
I'm also complaining about both of them "officially". I haven't seen anything of any value except insults and amused contempt.
So, *thumbs down* , FWTW.
oh man i bet u have enough votes now to ban me oh boy oh boy!
so really if you dont think it is from value that i come across the topic of why people think they are out of body... why u here then? it is a fundamental question and should be analysed, even more if you are like me trying to understand the human brain
dont worry, i wont feel demoralized by your silly attempts of trying to make me think what i have to give is not from worth
i will keep up the good analyseing
i have nothing to give but love :)
best regards
alfalfa
Quote from: personalreality on May 03, 2011, 19:55:50
i said this to your partner in crime, be aware of your tone.
myself and others have seen little except you and your friend harassing people for trying to achieve something.
look at the title of this post, "you are mentally ill?"
i can understand poor translation, but even if you meant "are you mentally ill?", you're still accusing members of being psychologically disturbed, needy and little more than children who can't control their ego and pride. unnecessary. the same point can be made without attack.
i don't even disagree with most of your posts, i disagree with your delivery. you're rude and that turns people off. even in your replies, supposedly trying to clear up a misunderstanding of intent, you still hold your nose to the sky and continue accusing.
i don't want you to make your statements all "shiny and magical", i would prefer that you didn't.
srsly wtf u want to like use authority with that "be aware of your tone?" why do you feel like u need to raise ur voice? u should back down and apologize like a man
yes i look at the title, it tells you that i am looking at some possibilitys which you would not like to be true, but i am not accusing, merely asking a question , why you jump out of the bushes and point the finger at me? just leave me alone and let me do my analysing
*sigh* I'm tired of this....they contribute nothing but condescending, smart-butt comments. I call for a ban.
again, it is pure logic that i am contributing value information
i see raw accusations but nothing behind it
smart-butt? yes my boy, i am a very smart person, it is nothing to be amazed of, there are many smart people in the world , you should let them talk once in a while and stop that childish ban ban ban, i am here to reason with you about anything and i am open to critics and i take them seriouse and will change if i validate them, but so far i dont see any problem in my deeds
I'm still waiting for the value (valuable?) contributions.
perhaps i should be more aware of my tone.
you misunderstand my intention.
you are beyond your right in forcing your social experiments on others.
i'm a solitary person, but even i recognize the importance of community.
i find the world and it's inhabitants abhorrent in so many ways. but individually, people have personal history, they have a life story. each one of us, even you, have meaning. i can't disregard the feelings of one because i dislike the whole.
let it be clear that beyond what i perceive as a transgression on the will of your fellow humans, i have no ill will toward you.
i did not intend to claim authority, merely a serious suggestion. i have no authority other than what you give me.
Quote from: CFTraveler on May 03, 2011, 21:49:28
I'm still waiting for the value (valuable?) contributions.
maybe you should stop waiting and start seeking then?
Quote from: personalreality on May 03, 2011, 22:49:58
perhaps i should be more aware of my tone.
you misunderstand my intention.
you are beyond your right in forcing your social experiments on others.
i'm a solitary person, but even i recognize the importance of community.
i find the world and it's inhabitants abhorrent in so many ways. but individually, people have personal history, they have a life story. each one of us, even you, have meaning. i can't disregard the feelings of one because i dislike the whole.
let it be clear that beyond what i perceive as a transgression on the will of your fellow humans, i have no ill will toward you.
i did not intend to claim authority, merely a serious suggestion. i have no authority other than what you give me.
oh your on to something with that life histroy, do you see the uselessness of judgeing an individual?
there i kinda feel like pointing out that i never judged a person in this topic, there i have been holding back, i only ask questions and look at reactions, i never claim that i am correct with my assumptions, i merely ask questions, ... for science :P:P (allways say that now cuz i played portal 2 lol)
so now i ask you how you come to the conclusion that i enforce something on someone?
oh man you make it seem like im a devil :cry:
You know the old addage: Don't feed the trolls. LoL
but it's fun to feed trolls. eventually they eat too much and collapse under their own weight.
ah now i feel like u thinking u so cool talking about me but not to me, blabla feed trolls, this is very intresting
you like join together to try to increase the effect of your words
you seem like children to me?
hmmmm because u cant reason?
ye you seem to have lost your logic there and u dont wanna give up beeing tough boys
,,Most vocal non-believers and closed-minded skeptics are as wrapped up in their beliefs as those they ridicule or disagree with. The main difference is that they are more apt to deny that their beliefs are beliefs. (...) These folks are sure, that if they and their peer group have no direct experience of a larger reality, the larger reality must be the product of delusion. (The delusional always believe that they are non-delusional and that the non-delusional are delusional - such is the nature of delusion.)"
- T. Campbell, NASA nuclear physicist & consciousness researcher
alfalfa until i met u i didnt realise how delusional and how much people have there heads stuck up there butt.
now i know because you alfalfa are the most delusional person here and you have your head stuck so far up your butt you probally can practically taste your own excrement.
i mean you say nobody has logic and everyone is judemental but the thing is your the judgemental person and your the one with no logic and you have nothing worthy to say.
i agree with them all that you should be banned . in short your a head do'er . trying to convince yourself everyone is inferior to you. you have such a long way to go before you see beyond your ignorance.
alfalfa you should do your self a favor and delte your own account that way you can convince yourself you were too good for us and thats why you left lmao...blind ignorance lmao. rather than stookie banning your delusional butt.
Quote from: alfalfa on May 04, 2011, 11:10:16
ah now i feel like u thinking u so cool talking about me but not to me, blabla feed trolls, this is very intresting
you like join together to try to increase the effect of your words
you seem like children to me?
hmmmm because u cant reason?
ye you seem to have lost your logic there and u dont wanna give up beeing tough boys
you got me. i fancy myself some kind of "tough guy" and i think i'm super cool.
If alfalfa is a troll, okay lets define troll as being someone who is looking for an argument, looking for trouble and negative emotions. And that is a big IF statement ... because there is no certainty in it. Right .. so we are about to discuss something which has no certainty ( for the sake of those people who love to SPEND TIME on if statements ( assumptions ) ) ... Then why are you giving the troll what he wants? Why are you letting the troll continually manipulate and control your behaviour and emotions? Do you feel okay with that??? Could it be Ego ??? Maybe. Think about it ..
Okay now we are outside the if statement .. its not a troll CONDITION. Which is the condition you should all be on because you haven't certainty. These guys talking about banning, what the hell haha, come on stop this foolishness, everyone is entitled to their opinion and nobody here is empty of problems, just because you cannot see a problem in yourself , it doesn't mean you are problem-free :P lol ( yes that does mean that me, the poster here has problems:D come on help me guys :P joking^^ i dont go looking for help, i have learnt that one by now )
Do you guys really think that you have this amazing "free will" , if i were you, i would not be so keen to believe that you do. Not in this day of age anyway:P where there are xxx things from with the systems we live in. Although alfalfa's lines might appear punchy and often rude, they have great deepness to them and allow you to detach yourself from yourself (lol). And if alfalfa seems punchy, ask yourself why? what is it he is talkign about? a sensitive topic maybe? Bring down the shields guys and accept that there are very fundamentally wrong things in the way we behave. And most of all, respect the efforts which he is has put into coming here and sharing his hard work. I do not believe i can change anythign here :), i just wanted to share my opinion, like always .. do as your will will desire you to do , my men of astral pusle :evil:
please, ask around the forum. ask them if personalreality is an uptight, mild mannered, tight-lipped kind of guy.
in fact, i use a similar technique to alfalfa when speaking to people here. i'm often rather blunt, some might even say cavalier with my statements. this isn't the problem.
the problem is that this is forum about astral projection and little else. we are here to share experiences, discuss technique and to some extent speculate on the nature of such experiences. this is not what you or your buddy are doing. you are not contributing to the community, you are not sharing personal experiences, you are not speculating on the nature of such phenomena from personal experience. both of you have done nothing but preach the "good word", telling us how ego driven we all are and how chances are we are making all this up to soothe our repressed egos. you're both full of $hit. i'm a psychology major and I can tell you right now that you are throwing words around like you have any idea what you're talking about. do you even understand what an ego is? the ego is the result of tension between natural instincts and the demands of society (id and superego respectively). EVERYONE has an ego, you would crumble into psychosis if you didn't. the goal isn't to be rid of the ego, it is the cleanse the ego and find the proper balance between id and superego, which can only be done through the ego. you're talking out of your butt about new age concepts that you obviously disapprove of, and i don't disagree. but this isn't the place for your ranting and illumination. we don't care, we don't want to hear it. why can't both of you get it through your heads that you're not doing anything here but getting in the way of our growth and development. you're not opening any eyes, you're not providing us with the great revelation that bring us to enlightenment. the babbling crap that you are spouting is something i came upon all on my own when i was in high school, over 10 years ago. i learned that knowledge, assimilated it and moved on to practice. once upon a time i too felt it necessary to try to open the eyes of the zombies, to try to wake them all up, but it's not my responsibility. they will find their truth when they are ready. beyond that, it's none of my fuc*ing business what people do and neither is it yours.
bottom line, we are trying to do something here that is important to us and you're just trying to sh*t all over us for no apparent reason other than you think you know something that we don't and you are trying your damnedest to make sure we see the light.
well, let me enlighten you for a change, the light has been seen, thank you for your help, move on.
Why did you post that? EDIT :: the only reason i post is because i care about the emotional balance put on someone's shoulder, who's emotional balance are you looking out for?
EDIT2 : let the people speak for them self, forget your past experience in psychology, and your past experience on this forum, forget your post count and what ever else you want to bring into this post. The world is a very big place , don't assume you have earnt a certain place above others. And who excactly do you think you are, requesting our voices to be silenced?
quit with the "make them think questions".
i posted it so that you might understand how i perceived yourself and your buddy.
also so that you might understand why what you're doing isn't what this forum is for, which makes you trolls.
it doesn't really matter much, but if you two were serious about having legit conversations with the members of the forum, i wanted you to participate. but you refuse to tone it down and share honest opinions about the topics in this forum. that's pretty much it. i'd love for you both to stick around and share what you know, but you're not interested in much else than preaching your truth. which is really what we're all doing in a way, but we try to be open to sharing truths, not just oppressing others with them.
and i would like you to stop assuming that you know who i am. i'm quite aware of my emotional balance, i don't need your help. though i thank you for your concern friend.
i'm glad you are valueing my efforts to make you think. Okay, well I am seeing you do more than just perceive, I am seeing you trying to control things to a level which is beyond your ability to understand. This forum is for Astral Projections, Discussing Out of Body Experiences and alfalfa clearly stated that he wanted to discuss a possibility that the cause of such a phenomenon was mental illness, sorry if that touches a nerves to some of you guys. But biological diseases, malfunctioning and other hinderences do happen, it would be naive for you to ignore this.
There was never a tone too high, thats just your opinion there, if anyone's tone is too high its the person who used the word troll first, but hey who he is going to worry about that guy who caused a knock on effect of high tones? who? tell me please...
What are you interested in ? I am interested in much much more than just preaching the truth :: because preaching just the truth would be so incredibly boring wouldn't it? I mean who here ever wants to know the truth ^^ they must be crazy !!! I am open, so is alfalfa ::like i said already, its how you are judging him to be rude which is the problem.
I don't know who you are :: but you are so keen to try and produce an online profile of who others are supposed to see you as , that i can't help myself but think that you " BLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP " .. there .. is that how you like it ? a nice sweet clean bleeped out version ^^ . Ok you have a nice emotional balance , that is why your emotional balance is transcending other's balance to a state where they feel like dirt on the floor?
Ty friend for this fiery discussion
Quote from: personalreality on May 04, 2011, 16:04:25
please, ask around the forum. ask them if personalreality is an uptight, mild mannered, tight-lipped kind of guy.
in fact, i use a similar technique to alfalfa when speaking to people here. i'm often rather blunt, some might even say cavalier with my statements. this isn't the problem.
the problem is that this is forum about astral projection and little else. we are here to share experiences, discuss technique and to some extent speculate on the nature of such experiences. this is not what you or your buddy are doing. you are not contributing to the community, you are not sharing personal experiences, you are not speculating on the nature of such phenomena from personal experience. both of you have done nothing but preach the "good word", telling us how ego driven we all are and how chances are we are making all this up to soothe our repressed egos. you're both full of $hit. i'm a psychology major and I can tell you right now that you are throwing words around like you have any idea what you're talking about. do you even understand what an ego is? the ego is the result of tension between natural instincts and the demands of society (id and superego respectively). EVERYONE has an ego, you would crumble into psychosis if you didn't. the goal isn't to be rid of the ego, it is the cleanse the ego and find the proper balance between id and superego, which can only be done through the ego. you're talking out of your butt about new age concepts that you obviously disapprove of, and i don't disagree. but this isn't the place for your ranting and illumination. we don't care, we don't want to hear it. why can't both of you get it through your heads that you're not doing anything here but getting in the way of our growth and development. you're not opening any eyes, you're not providing us with the great revelation that bring us to enlightenment. the babbling crap that you are spouting is something i came upon all on my own when i was in high school, over 10 years ago. i learned that knowledge, assimilated it and moved on to practice. once upon a time i too felt it necessary to try to open the eyes of the zombies, to try to wake them all up, but it's not my responsibility. they will find their truth when they are ready. beyond that, it's none of my fuc*ing business what people do and neither is it yours.
bottom line, we are trying to do something here that is important to us and you're just trying to sh*t all over us for no apparent reason other than you think you know something that we don't and you are trying your damnedest to make sure we see the light.
well, let me enlighten you for a change, the light has been seen, thank you for your help, move on.
oh wow thank you for that insight into your personality, i am guna go ahead and analyse you, yes , analysing is not topic of this forum but i have deep urges to do science, if you look at the topic start you see that i try to stay on topic, the conversation got led to another aspects because you people feel emotions
you do not seem like a mannerd person to me because you use things to get authority like saying your big psychologist and stuff
i kinda feel pitty that u so hard want to talk about yourself, those 2 first sentences causes pitty, i will follow the science so this might sounds like its hurting you , but you are an unimportant person, a test object, science is many people
i do not share experiences because i dont think that i experience somethinig from worth, im just dreaming about sexy girls lol
i will share my experience if it will do good for science, but untill then i have other intresting topics about out of body experiences
you talking with generalisations about me, you form judgements based on unstable logic, your judgements are to no worth to me, yes we maybe have different definitions of ego, i can explain u what i understand under it
i did something wrong in my logic, now someone tells me that, but i say that i did not use wrong logic because i want to be a good human makeing right things, but there i become ignorant
i see you are very confused :(
yes i am not smart enough to teach you, i will try to improve my teaching skills to make you understand more easily
you feel this emotion where you give up on people, you can have many reasons to why you want to help a person, i for my behalf am intrested in science, it is like one hand washes the other situaion, i too felt this emotion of giving up on zeh zombies, but rly you cant say that in general, it depends on your reasoning, do you want to live in an enviroment which you prefer? how strong u want to live in that enviroment u dreaming of? or do you think one should never try and help another person? because one never can know the right answers? i on my behalf have been teached by my idol d3nd3, and it was very nice of him for enlightening me and i will be thankfull for the rest of eternity
what can i say : / .. you would have to go back to when you created the judgement of me wanting to shush you and analyse again, if you do, tell us your travel in the past , the root of your emotion, ... for science
love & peace
alfalfa
Quote from: personalreality on May 04, 2011, 16:23:06
quit with the "make them think questions".
i posted it so that you might understand how i perceived yourself and your buddy.
also so that you might understand why what you're doing isn't what this forum is for, which makes you trolls.
it doesn't really matter much, but if you two were serious about having legit conversations with the members of the forum, i wanted you to participate. but you refuse to tone it down and share honest opinions about the topics in this forum. that's pretty much it. i'd love for you both to stick around and share what you know, but you're not interested in much else than preaching your truth. which is really what we're all doing in a way, but we try to be open to sharing truths, not just oppressing others with them.
and i would like you to stop assuming that you know who i am. i'm quite aware of my emotional balance, i don't need your help. though i thank you for your concern friend.
oh , a new post, :P
thank you for telling us how you perceive, you are helping science with your brave step
i am in general a very honest person, if you want to help me u need to show me a situation where u think i am not honest
oh well preaching blabla , we have that coverd, it is probably ur confusion which makes you think that, i am very carefull about what i tell others, but anyway , if ur intend is really to help us, show me zeh situations :)
oh my , i found intresting
you belive that i am oppressing my opinions on others, there it is obviouse to see that i talk in "?" and "maybe" ' s^^
but yet you belive it, so maybe (!) you cannot accept that i talk about a logic here which goes against yours, so there ur ego comes in place and creates ignorance aroud u?
it would explain why you so determined to tell us your judgements and beliefs
who knows who knows (!)
i am doeing it for science, analysing... nothing opinionated and opressing
i never assumed that i know who you are, i merely analyse your behavior
ok now!
PEACE AAAND LOVE!
alfalfa :P
you are quite welcome. i too have enjoyed this exchange.
i have little interest in my online persona, or how i am perceived by others. no one aside from me is capable of understanding my perception of reality, so why would i care?
since it may not have been done yet, i will address alfalfa's seemingly neutral question that was only intended to ask a legit question, certainly not meant to rile people up with no end game.
firstly, what is mental illness? the problem with psychological pathology is that it is based out of one perspective, the modern scientific materialist perspective. in the field of mental studies (psychology, psychiatry, sociology, social work, etc.) pathology is defined as being essentially any mental function that makes people incapable of functioning as any other normal civilized person. to me that is biased and not valid. like i said, i'm a psych major (bachelors degree within a few months, with the plan of continuing through phd) and i think about mental disorders a lot. mostly because i'm disgusted by the label. i don't believe in mental disorders, illness, pathology, whatever you want to call it. i think the DSM is the biggest load of bull i've ever heard of. people don't have mental disorders, they have unique lives that make them see the world in a unique way. some of these people may not fit into the plan of society at large, that doesn't mean they are diseased. a biological condition is perhaps a little different, but you mean to tell me that all of us in this forum and all of the people who believe in the reality of AP have biological brain damage?
the schism between the world of science and the world of spirituality has created monsters that are entirely shut off from one side or the other. science and spirituality used to be the same thing, i'd like to see that come about again. as it stands however, the two worlds are hard up to come together. it seems fitting that science would like to see what we do and what we believe in as pathological. that's the hard part about such a topic, it requires a little faith. scientists (of the great church of scientism, ie the mainstream, science isn't inherently bad, the closed-minded people who preach the truths of science are) seem to be generally opposed to faith (though they sure do put a lot of faith in their science, which is little more than a new religion to me). they want proof and nothing else. it's a tough break, but the realm of the otherworlds is subtle, it's abstract, it's beyond the concrete reality that we focus on most of our lives. if you are willing you let go and believe in all of this for just a little while, you might be surprised at the reality of it all. when it comes down to it, we believe because we have experienced something profound and we're doing our best to explain it.
there are some "supposed mental illnesses" that can cause people to feel like they are out of their body, like schizophrenia. but the implication is that unless we are all mentally ill, that we are intentionally inducing some kind of psychosis in order to experience these things. that's a bit outlandish to me. do you not dream? if you do are you equally crazy? or is you dream just random neural firing? a natural function of the brain so it's ok. to be honest, i don't know the nature of such experiences, but i don't claim to have those answers. it may be entirely likely that these are imaginary journeys that we are undertaking. that's fine with me really. it's still impeccable control over our mind to be able to completely disconnect from the body and feel as if we are living in our imagination. on the other hand, there is quite a bit of evidence supporting psi-phenomena (a great meta-analysis of psi research over the last 70 years can be found in a book called "Entangled Minds" by Dean Radin). the reality of an interconnection between all minds isn't so far-fetched in the realm of science these days. i wouldn't find it to be too big of a leap to apply the same findings to otherworld experiences.
i don't believe that we are all just delusional and mentally ill. i have experienced the reality of these experiences first hand, and i feel that i have a pretty firm grasp on my sanity (or at least understand my insanity, lol). like i said, i don't know exactly what they are and i don't really care. i have felt it for myself and i intend to continue the practice.
now, if you and your buddy are serious (and not just trolls), then i except a serious response. your move friend (and i mean that, i harbor no hard feelings, i consider you and alfalfa to be friends, fellow travelers).
alfalfa, i posted a response to your question, but i still want to be clear about a few things.
i didn't claim to be a "big psychologist" and i want to make sure that is clear to the forum. i am a psychology student. it would be irresponsible for me to say otherwise because someone may think that my opinion is a substitute for genuine medical assistance in a situation that may require consultation with a doctor. i only shared that tidbit about myself so that you would both know that you weren't speaking to someone who had no idea what you were talking about. so that you would know that i was familiar with the topics you were discussing. not claiming any kind of superiority or greater knowledge than you.
i shared personal information about myself so that you, i and d3nd3 would understand eachother's motivations a little better. i want you both to know that i have no personal problem with you and neither of you have offended me. i haven't made judgments about your character and i wouldn't dream of doing so based on internet forum posts. my comments have been strictly based on your posts thus far.
i enjoy the back and forth, i really do, which is why this thread has pretty much just turned into me you and d3nd3. everyone else is over it. but i'm still having fun. so read my legitimate response to your post and we'll go from there.
I value your post which was on topic :: My opinion is that the topic raises a possibility, which shouldn't be dismissed because there is no evidence for it to be dismissed. The evidence you supplied is very minor, and it can easily be cancelled out to the other side with no effort at all. So the OP produces open-mindness , open-mindness to calm down the esoteric spiritualists.
I was just thinking about how this forum seems to be working ... considering myself and alfalfa are newcomers, we aren't familiar with the style ( culture / operating system ) that the forum community runs under. From my analysis I see that t you have a fixed topic at the start :: and you are expected to stay on that topic, else seen as a troll for bringing other problems into the topic.
I have to accept that :: because i am by no means going to challenge a culture ^^ .. hard enough trying to do that here in my life now with my family and country you know what i mean?!
So yea .. to sum it up : this ain't an open forum to discussion about people and life in general, as much as i wish it would be , because the nature of the curiosity which exists inside us all, which drove us here, is often related to life its self, and all the other branches which come out of that.
Personally, i rather dislike subjects , walls, divisions .. but if thats how you folks want it to be . With rules, laws, control and regulations. It don't seem too much different from my home country :) The United Kingdom. Are you passing over a culture onto a virtual world? ^^ Its ok if you are : Again i have no power here ... A free naked culture-less man .
PS : I won't be causing any more out of topic posts, aiming at anyone in particular OR caring about your problems etcetc.. its all too much of a "playing with fire" situation for my likes. Thank you all.
Peace & Love
d3nd3
xxx
...Retracted.
i saw it before you retracted it CFT.
lol.
d3nd3,
i agree, i too dislike labels and definitions. unfortunately the rest of the world seems to enjoy them.
Quote from: personalreality on May 04, 2011, 17:05:39
you are quite welcome. i too have enjoyed this exchange.
i have little interest in my online persona, or how i am perceived by others. no one aside from me is capable of understanding my perception of reality, so why would i care?
since it may not have been done yet, i will address alfalfa's seemingly neutral question that was only intended to ask a legit question, certainly not meant to rile people up with no end game.
firstly, what is mental illness? the problem with psychological pathology is that it is based out of one perspective, the modern scientific materialist perspective. in the field of mental studies (psychology, psychiatry, sociology, social work, etc.) pathology is defined as being essentially any mental function that makes people incapable of functioning as any other normal civilized person. to me that is biased and not valid. like i said, i'm a psych major (bachelors degree within a few months, with the plan of continuing through phd) and i think about mental disorders a lot. mostly because i'm disgusted by the label. i don't believe in mental disorders, illness, pathology, whatever you want to call it. i think the DSM is the biggest load of bull i've ever heard of. people don't have mental disorders, they have unique lives that make them see the world in a unique way. some of these people may not fit into the plan of society at large, that doesn't mean they are diseased. a biological condition is perhaps a little different, but you mean to tell me that all of us in this forum and all of the people who believe in the reality of AP have biological brain damage?
the schism between the world of science and the world of spirituality has created monsters that are entirely shut off from one side or the other. science and spirituality used to be the same thing, i'd like to see that come about again. as it stands however, the two worlds are hard up to come together. it seems fitting that science would like to see what we do and what we believe in as pathological. that's the hard part about such a topic, it requires a little faith. scientists (of the great church of scientism, ie the mainstream, science isn't inherently bad, the closed-minded people who preach the truths of science are) seem to be generally opposed to faith (though they sure do put a lot of faith in their science, which is little more than a new religion to me). they want proof and nothing else. it's a tough break, but the realm of the otherworlds is subtle, it's abstract, it's beyond the concrete reality that we focus on most of our lives. if you are willing you let go and believe in all of this for just a little while, you might be surprised at the reality of it all. when it comes down to it, we believe because we have experienced something profound and we're doing our best to explain it.
there are some "supposed mental illnesses" that can cause people to feel like they are out of their body, like schizophrenia. but the implication is that unless we are all mentally ill, that we are intentionally inducing some kind of psychosis in order to experience these things. that's a bit outlandish to me. do you not dream? if you do are you equally crazy? or is you dream just random neural firing? a natural function of the brain so it's ok. to be honest, i don't know the nature of such experiences, but i don't claim to have those answers. it may be entirely likely that these are imaginary journeys that we are undertaking. that's fine with me really. it's still impeccable control over our mind to be able to completely disconnect from the body and feel as if we are living in our imagination. on the other hand, there is quite a bit of evidence supporting psi-phenomena (a great meta-analysis of psi research over the last 70 years can be found in a book called "Entangled Minds" by Dean Radin). the reality of an interconnection between all minds isn't so far-fetched in the realm of science these days. i wouldn't find it to be too big of a leap to apply the same findings to otherworld experiences.
i don't believe that we are all just delusional and mentally ill. i have experienced the reality of these experiences first hand, and i feel that i have a pretty firm grasp on my sanity (or at least understand my insanity, lol). like i said, i don't know exactly what they are and i don't really care. i have felt it for myself and i intend to continue the practice.
now, if you and your buddy are serious (and not just trolls), then i except a serious response. your move friend (and i mean that, i harbor no hard feelings, i consider you and alfalfa to be friends, fellow travelers).
oh wow such an intrested person, science must he his number one priority
Quote from: personalreality on May 04, 2011, 17:05:39
i have little interest in my online persona, or how i am perceived by others. no one aside from me is capable of understanding my perception of reality, so why would i care?
ah u dont care what others think of u, confidence? why do you feel the need of telling us that? could it be that u had this realisation and now trying here to show off your personality? lol then u would be ignorant, its kind of a rat trap , thats intresting, one found valuable information but is not able to to get use out of it because he is not on the mentally deep and honest level required to use it
again showing off your psych major stuff :) , do you like feel you get humiliated by science?
i see you falling into the same traps again, u try to judge me, u cant do that bro :/
talking about stuff from humans : / sorry that has no worth to my type of science, people step into the foodsteps from people before them without questioning it : /
u talkin of stereotypes : / those have no use either, science is very picky theese days
i seek definate answers yes, that does not mean i will ignorantly ignore certain aspects i see in this life, i have a formd a grounded view from what i perceive in this world i find myself suddenly in
with mentally ill i mean that people do stuff which hurts their own system, i do apologize for i am not very familiar with ur human words
maybe you should go in the woods all by your self and live there for a year, create your own perspectives and your own opinions and analysis and systems and ideas, getting free from the worlds controling stereotypes and thinking structures
C'mon Xanth, I am sure that Stookie would ban alfalfa! Dende's ok, but alfalfa is clearly a troll.
*sigh*
well, that's it. i'm done. i tried to address the topic you posted, but you still just want to make this personal.
good day sir.
Quote from: personalreality on May 04, 2011, 17:38:51
*sigh*
well, that's it. i'm done. i tried to address the topic you posted, but you still just want to make this personal.
good day sir.
oh from my view we are right on topic there talking about stereo type thinking ( for me mental illness aswell since it hurts the own system )
haha funny how different people can see such huge difference in things
edit: from my view i think that nothing is personal here since we dont know each other
Quote from: CFTraveler on May 04, 2011, 17:38:26
C'mon Xanth, I am sure that Stookie would ban alfalfa! Dende's ok, but alfalfa is clearly a troll.
At this point, I completely agree. :)
CFT and PR i am confused lmao.....what is retracted? and why?
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REST IN PEACE ALFALFA, YOU WILL BE MISSED
Quote from: d3nd3 on May 04, 2011, 21:38:27
REST IN PEACE ALFALFA, YOU WILL BE MISSED
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Sorry d3nd3, but I have to delete that since using your account to post anything from alfalfa is against the rules of this forum.