Having control stopped my OBEs!

[ronaldo]

Hi
i find it very hard 2 have concious projections too, they have always happened naturally. when i started working on having concious projections i found the natural projections became more frequent and more vivid.

[ronaldo]

Hi

By the way how long it since your last projection?

[beavis]

Leyla, maybe the purpose of those random OBEs has been accomplished, and you dont recognize the next purpose because its different, causing you to have to do something different to OBE.

[James S]

Hi Leyla,

Its good to see you back again!![][][]

I don't think that OBEs are something that are a limited time only thing.

I wonder if the difference between your random OBE's and your planned one was how relaxed you were at the time, and how much effort your putting in to achieve that. It could be that maybe your a little too aware that you're trying to project, and that could be hindering your level of relaxation?

Another thought is there could be one critical little element that allowed the OBEs to happen at random, that a structured approach might be leaving out. I don't know how you'd go about finding that. Did you keep a diary of any kind from your random projections that might give you a clue as to what brought them on?

Kind regards,
James.

[Leyla]

My last one was March 16th. And yes, I keep a detailed book of shadows.

All I can think is either
A) I am not *supposed* to have control and am somehow being punished for it (denied entry?)
OR
B) Now that I've done it once, I am expected to do it deliberatly from now on. (Kicked out of the nest and made to fly?)

All random OBE has stopped,

I have made two more attempts at conscious OBE, both have failed. It takes me a lot to get up the nerve because I find it kind of scary.

It's like a normal person who's afraid of ghosts becoming a ghost. I scare myself.

I think I'm conflicted about a human being having this sort of power.
I have become something I would fear, and at my core I'm actually afraid of myself. I'm sure others of you must feel this way.

This is the only place I knew I could go for help.

[James S]

Hi Leyla,

"I am not *supposed* to have control and am somehow being punished for it (denied entry?)"
I doubt this is the case. You have free will. I've never heard of any astral entities preventing people from entering the astral.

"I have made two more attempts at conscious OBE, both have failed. It takes me a lot to get up the nerve because I find it kind of scary."
This is probably the key issue. Subconciously, you might not want to go back to the astral, once you knew you were able to do it consciously. Prior to that it might have been a case of "if it happens it happens," and you may have been a little more resigned to the fact that it can and does happen.

It really does sound like your fears have become the barrier.
"It's like a normal person who's afraid of ghosts becoming a ghost. I scare myself."
Then you should learn to not be afraid of ghosts. To fear yourself in this respect is to deny yourself, and the potential of what you can become. It might be wise to spend some time in quiet meditation and turn inwards. Have a look at what it is about yourself that frightens you, and see if it is really worth being scared of. This fear could hamper a lot more than just OBEs if you let it.

For what its worth, what I have come to know of you from what you have written in the past, there is a bright warm loving light in your soul. Something lovely, not fearful. I'm sure if you look you will find this light, as you have shown it at times through your words.

Kind regards,
James.

[Leyla]

*blush*

[James S]

Well...it's true!!!


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James.

[Leyla]

I haven't been here in a while.

Reason: I managed to have an OBE on purpose and I haven't had one since!

I had random OBE's at the rate of one a month. They were never planned. After about a year of work I managed to control it and I left my body at will. I did it one time.

I have not had an OBE since. They just stopped.

I am very distraught.

Does anyone have help/suggestions?