Hello,
I am new to this site. I was a previous long-term member of astralsociety.com but lost touch. I havent AP'd in quite a while, but have been trying compulsively lately. I lay down and focus until I am in what Robert Monroe would call Focus 10. Or a relaxed state in which i am beginning to feel vibrations, however I cannot intensify those vibrations enough to where I feel like I can Escape my physical body. Also I am too aware of my physical self and my breathing. I cannot seem to take my mind off of my physical body. Hoe can I "push it aside" and act out of my Astral Body?
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/transitions_focus_10_to_focus_12-t25818.0.html
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_permanent_astral_topics/focus_10_mind_awakebody_asleep-t24783.0.html
You just need to relax more. I know it sounds funny, but, when you think you're 100% relaxed, you need to relax more! :)
That really is the key to all of this.
If you focus on breathing for too long, you will find that you are stuck with it. Once your mind is pointed at breathing and you have no stray thoughts left and you are relaxed, move your attention from the breath to the ringing sound in the ears. (its always there)
This will bring you into an area that is in between physical and astral. Relax more (yes, what he said above :) ) and the astral body goes into a sort of auto-pilot and gets out on its own. Don't lose lucidity during this, else you will enter a dream or deep sleep.
thank you guys. this really helped alot. Im gonna go and try this here in a few and post my possible results tomorrow! :-D
Hey I have heard allot about listening to the ringing in the ears. But has anyone projected using this? please write. thanks. :-)
Quote from: Stimpy on August 06, 2009, 14:57:32
Hey I have heard allot about listening to the ringing in the ears. But has anyone projected using this? please write. thanks. :-)
I haven't personally, but I do know that people do use that sound as a means to focus.
It works for some, doesn't work for others.
Find out what works best for you.
The only limit is the one you place upon yourself... use your imagination for what to try!
I have ADHD, I sometimes feel like this presents huge obstacles when trying to project for a few reasons, I can't focus very long, I am hyper active and have NEVER been able to relax since I was a kid, its almost impossible. Along with those things, I am not able to organize my thoughts. I am taking adderall for my adhd which has helped me focus and concentrate, it also helps me relax my mind, but because of the salts in it, i can't physically relax...any tips, tricks? I tend to be most sensitive to sounds, I have been successful with binaural beats but even still sometimes it doesn't work :(
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_obe_discussions/adhd_and_astral_projection-t24998.0.html
I wish I could say it didn't, but something like ADHD would affect your success, but only very minimally. I have minor ADD, and I am able to concentrate very well if I want to. If you work on concentrating, (you may have to work a bit harder than others) you can be just as good or better than most people. - Woah
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_obe_discussions/salvia_divinorum_and_obe-t9075.0.html
okay, I'm ridiculous, too much thinking haha (adderall does that too you, damn ADHD)
OH YEA, I TAKE ADDERALL as a perscription, you all know wut it is, well, I've found it helps my AP Greatly!!! my concentration is ridiculous! and helps keep you in trance keeps your mind awake and your body passes the hell out. -Kerrblur
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/how_to_project_with_adhd-t17630.0.html
Ok, everyone look at the symptoms of ADD and ADHD. It's BULL imo. I have it, you have it. Hell everyone has it. Furthermore, if you concentrate on the symptoms, they will manifest as well. This country and the diagnosis's. It's total bull for the drug companies to pimp your cash and the insurance companies and get kick backs from Big Brother. Yes there are some severe cases where it is warranted I suppose, but for the greater majority, it's crap. - knucklebrain1970
Quote from: Mookie on August 22, 2009, 18:53:53
I have ADHD, I sometimes feel like this presents huge obstacles when trying to project for a few reasons, I can't focus very long, I am hyper active and have NEVER been able to relax since I was a kid, its almost impossible. Along with those things, I am not able to organize my thoughts. I am taking adderall for my adhd which has helped me focus and concentrate, it also helps me relax my mind, but because of the salts in it, i can't physically relax...any tips, tricks? I tend to be most sensitive to sounds, I have been successful with binaural beats but even still sometimes it doesn't work :(
You've got some hard work ahead of you then.
Meditation is great for ADHD... if you can get past the attentive problems. :)
For the last six to 8 months...i have had a ringing sound just as i get relaxed and its really neat and all...but i cant seem to use it either .....i focus on it...and make it pulsate...and get lower and higher....but it kinda puts me to sleep to be honest....i only AP from lucid dreams......or interupted sleep....but i can relax with the best of them....i am just starting to be able to get to a vibration state from a relaxation state .....the sound does not help me much....i would like to know as well how to put that sucker to use. :|
Quote from: amyl1427 on August 26, 2009, 03:02:47
For the last six to 8 months...i have had a ringing sound just as i get relaxed and its really neat and all...but i cant seem to use it either .....i focus on it...and make it pulsate...and get lower and higher....but it kinda puts me to sleep to be honest....i only AP from lucid dreams......or interupted sleep....but i can relax with the best of them....i am just starting to be able to get to a vibration state from a relaxation state .....the sound does not help me much....i would like to know as well how to put that sucker to use. :|
You've already started to put it to use.
It will just take practice until you're able to use it and NOT fall asleep. :)
Keep going!