new here, help me pls

[Kachineo]

well, first of all, a little introduction of me, I have 14 years and I just started tryng to AP, I'm from chile so my main english is spanish,  and my english is lame,now for the important thing:

I have been 3 day tryng to AP, yesterday I was trying AP like at 5p.m And I got into a dream, And the strange thing was that I noticed that I was dreaming, and I said myself "mn.. you are dreaming; i can controll it!" and I felt a strange sensation in my mind/head and I started to vribrate, very VERY powerfully, and I got scared and It all stoped, I opened my eyes and I was in my bed, well, all the times I try I spend something like 1 hour, I tense and relax all my muscles, and a lot of time until I feel relaxed, but the problem is when I have to relax my mind, and I cant, I just focus on my third eye, or in my breath, or in nothing, I just try to dont think, I dont move, nothing, and I cant enter to the trance, pls can someone help me?, I really need to AP, I dont know if I'm doing something wrong, here I explain my processes:

- I go to my room, I close door, windoows, courtains, etc.. no light. I just lie down in my bed like this (-<--<, I start relaxing exercises until I feel its okay, then, I just try to calm down, hear my breath, feel it, and after 40 mins my arm or legs start to hurt, so I have to stop, and all the 40 mins dont work for nothing, maybe I feel a little bit dumb, realxed, happy, stupid, whateva (I do all this processes with my eyes colsed).

so.. I'm really asking for help, I think AP is a amazing thing, its not an order, its a favor, and if you dont understand something I will try to explain it better, I repeat that my english is lame..

[Steele]

your english is actually better then some of my friends ( all born and raised in Canada ) anyways as for your attempts you are doing alot of things right but trial and error is something to work on. what i mean is you should try different methods. you are rushing yourself by saying you need to ap. slow down and relax. All The Best!

                                                                                 Steele

[sminson]

I can think of a couple of things that might help.  First off, it's better to be in the position of allowing your consciousness to detach from your physical form.  Understand that your consciousness is infinite, and doesn't need the physical body - the physical body requires consciousness.  From that frame of mind it's easier to project.

You can say to yourself: "I am part of the infinite consciousness detached and apart from the physical world" and kind of feel yourself (your inner being) floating up away from your body.  This way you can gain a better understanding of the shape and nature of consciousness (the part of you that projects).

Personally I could not focus on my third eye while trying to project, the stream of information is too strong.  I'd wind up taking notes or something.

You can't not think - you have to let your thoughts pass.  Your mind is always thinking.  If your mind didn't think at all, you wouldn't exist.  I'd focus on consciousness alone and it's detachment from the physical.

That said, remember to give up your worldly concerns to Shakti (or whatever name you like to give to the creative intelligence of the universe). Basically let the god force deal with your mundane stuff while you focus on the moment.  Consciously doing this may help your mind be more calm.

Breathing - how do you breathe?  Inhale slowly, hold, exhale slowly - repeat.  Then once you get deeply relaxed you just slowly inhale and exhale in the rhythm you've created.

There are many methods of actually projecting, rope method - blowing your consciousness out, rolling your consciousness over, etc.  You can find a bunch of people's techniques here: http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_permanent_astral_topics/technique_central-t19294.0.html.

Most of all, relax, take your time and let it happen.  It's not something you can force.  Good luck.

[Psan]

Hi

The vibrations and all sounds good. You are making progress.
The ability to AP comes in little steps, however the "higher powers" sometimes kick start the process by giving you more than you are actually capable of. So thank them for the favor and start REAL practice.

(Actually that is also a little reminder to myself )

Now, lying there for 40 min simply means that you have got past the chance to AP, because if it happens it happens within 10-15 min. So if you still find yourself wide awake in bed after relaxing and all, just get up and do stuff and try again later. No need to be too concerned.

Practice staying on the edge of sleep and wakefulness and yes, the ringing sound, its very important. It will pull you into a favorable state.

Pl read this also : http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/viewTopic.jsp?t=observe-fall-asleep

Good luck !