phasing question

[urshebear]

I have been trying to do the phasing technique for quite a few years now with no success, I have read so much on phasing but when I attempt it I usually fall asleep (fall asleep whenever I meditate too)

anyway the other day I was staring into the blackness for quite a while when I started to feel like I wasn't lying down anymore, I felt like I was upright in the blackness but it was still just blackness...an image will come along every so often and I will try and zone in on it which I can do for maybe a few seconds before it disappears.

Is the upright feeling progress at all?

[Astralsuzy]

The upright feeling is you are succeeding.  It sounds like you did ap but you have to trust yourself that you did it.   Next time it happens, try to move away spiritually.   It is common not to be able to see.   When you cannot see, just say, I can see.   It works.   If it does not work that well, keep saying it until you can see perfectly. 

[urshebear]

Thanks Suzy I can AP but just not by using the phasing technique. I usually have to get out via sleep paralysis but feel I am experienced enough to want to move on from that. I defiantly couldn't AP from where I was, I did try but I feel I might have been still too physically present if you know what I mean.

[urshebear]

but then again I really don't know because have never phased before and perhaps you do feel more physically aware using the phasing method, I have no idea cause I have yet to experience that.

[EscapeVelocity]

Hi urshebear,

Are you stuck in the RTZ? What some may label etheric projections, where you are in your bedroom or house or local neighborhood? Do most or all of your projections involve consciously exiting your body, often through SP? Are you able to go anywhere else? If so, how do you accomplish that?

If you are feeling frustrated and wanting to move on, it is often because you have likely failed to realize or learn a lesson from your current state. These can be deceptively subtle in retrospect and frustratingly complex until we do figure them out. I deal with the same thing.

And you can have the realization in the physical, but you will probably have to somehow declare it or display this realization in the NP in order to advance. It's best to have the realization there, then it's kind of automatic.

These tests begin almost immediately in our OBE experiences, and they can be deceptively small tests. But they are what some call minor initiations, leading to major initiations.

So, describe what's going on...

[Astralsuzy]

Thanks Suzy I can AP but just not by using the phasing technique. I usually have to get out via sleep paralysis but feel I am experienced enough to want to move on from that. I defiantly couldn't AP from where I was, I did try but I feel I might have been still too physically present if you know what I mean.

I have never phased as I have my way of doing things.   I do not know what phasing is.   You were out of your body so you did not need to ap.   You could have been half out of your body.   You just had to move yourself.    You could have moved your arms and fly somewhere.   You could move your arms and imagine that you were swimming or anything else.   When you are sitting up, you are in a very good position to move.   Just believe you can do it.   If you mess it up then you will learn from the experience.   

[urshebear]

EscapeVelocity, I have had projections outside of RTZ, but I don't like relying on SP because I seem to be getting SP less and less (perhaps as I get older?).

Thinking of lessons hmmmm, there could be many because I am still very much a novice

I do feel that when I am in the NP I am always in such a rush....I have to keep busy all the time and if I cant quickly think of something to do next I fly because I am scared if I stop to smell the roses I will lose it and that has happened to me before. This often results in me waking up feeling disappointed because I haven't achieved many goals that I have set myself - experiments I want to try such as asking about a spirit guide, looking in the mirror, walking into a mirror or a picture etc.
I used to attempt these things but haven't for such a long time because my projections are now so few that I don't want to waste them and risk doing anything that may cut them short.

This is why I am so eager to learn how to phase because I feel like I will be able to project more often if I am not just relying on SP

[EscapeVelocity]

I can generalize a little bit but I'd rather hear a little more about what you are experiencing:

Besides the RTZ, describe what NP environments you are likely to show up in.

What seems to stall you out there? Do you not have a sufficient  intent of where to go from there? Do you forget your intent? Does the environment not gibe with your expectation and so you lose your intent?

These are some of the stumbling blocks I ran into, and still do from time to time. I certainly remember the 'performance anxiety' of making the best use of your time, because the clock is running.    Part of this may be the development of your NP mindset. It amazes me how much I forget when I am NP, just stuff that seems like it should occur to me automatically but doesn't. I really have to expand my intent to allow for unexpected occurrences. Somehow I am slowly doing it. As Szaxx pointed out to me we are building a second NP personality. (you point out how you consciously engage your environment to maintain your lucidity. I still haven't gotten that message through to my NP personality yet, sufficiently.lol)

What is your phasing technique, what time do you make your attempts? Are you limited by your daily schedule?

Hope that gives some thought-starters. We can follow this further and figure some things out!

EV

[soarin12]

Hi urshebear,  I just went through the same thing.  SP was getting more illusive and my projections were getting fewer and fewer.  I realized my guides were taking one thing away in order to get me desperate enough (lol) to try and learn new techniques. 3 new techniques have recently opened up to me. I just had my first visualization projection this morning, and I have always proclaimed that I am horrible at visualization.  Turns out it was easy.  And I found out you don't have to be good at it.  You just have do it.  If your guides are inspiring you in some way, and you act on it, it will happen.  Look for inspiration where ever it may be found.  In a book, a post on the forum, or just a feeling.... and then project as you are being inspired.  I was starting to make the mistake of believing that I was much more in charge of everything than I was, because projecting always came so easily for me in the past.  It took my guides taking my ability away from me temporarily to realize they are ultimately the ones in charge of how and when.  My skills are important to the process--I'm just not as much in the drivers seat as I originally thought!  I think about it as --I'm not an individual banging away at something until I get it.  I need to be intuitive and realize I'm part of a team--part of the whole.  Together we get the job done. 

[urshebear]

Escapevelocity - I have a range of different experiences. sometimes I will get up in NP and realize I just got out of a bed that wasn't mine (when this happens I don't see my physical body in the bed)...I am sometimes in foreign houses or otherwise hospital or airport type places. I feel like from here I am in such a rush to keep moving that I forget my intentions. Sometimes I may stop to chat with someone but every time the conversation is vague and dull so I keep moving....every projection end with me finding a window and attempting to fly to the moon...I don't know why I don't even attempt to do anything else perhaps I do not have enough awareness to think in more than one direction but in saying that, I am like that in the physical as well. I zone into what I am doing and find multitasking (or multi-thinking) hard.

If I start out in RTZ which I usually do. I do tend to get a massive subconscious overlay where I can pinpoint different things I might see as the same things I might have thought about that day/week. from there I always end up flying again as I cant think of what to do next and as I said I don't want to stop and think about it out of fear of losing awareness or becoming too aware which always snaps me back to physical.

I have tried to achieve my little goals in the past....for example I used to try something that Frank Kepple mentioned about standing there and staring into space till you start getting blinds of image and blackness...It worked but once I was fully emerged in the blackness I was too aware and snapped back to physical. That was back when I was easily projecting and wasn't afraid to waste an experience because I knew I would get the chance to project again soon.

[urshebear]

Soarin - That is interesting although I don't actually know any of my guides apart from possibly one who may be a guide but I don't have enough evidence to prove that to myself because I haven't had enough experience.a

The visualization thing I do sometimes try....my problem is that I can visualize that I am watching myself walk through a park but I cant visualize actually walking through the park. I keep trying though

[soarin12]

Soarin - That is interesting although I don't actually know any of my guides apart from possibly one who may be a guide but I don't have enough evidence to prove that to myself because I haven't had enough experience.a

The visualization thing I do sometimes try....my problem is that I can visualize that I am watching myself walk through a park but I cant visualize actually walking through the park. I keep trying though

When I say "My guides are showing me...."  What I mean is that we are always being given guidance by means of feelings, signs, intuition etc. not only in the NP, but right here in the physical.  I've personally only seen and talked with my guides 3 times.  But I know they're behind the scenes of my projections and inspiring me with signs in the physical as well.  I think most of us miss what they are trying to tell us because we are dull to it, and like you say, don't have enough evidence to support it.  For me, so much evidence is finally here--it's really hitting me over the head lately, that I'm not so dull to the signs as I used to be.  I grab onto the inspiration now, and a lot of new experiences are opening up to me because of it.

Also, when I say 'guides' you can substitute higher-self, God, Source or whatever resonates with you.  It's all the same loving energy-just different manifestations.

If what I'm saying doesn't really resonate with you, I'd just tuck it away in the back of your mind and who knows, at some point it might.  That's what happened to me when- I think it was LionHeart who was posting some similar types of things, and I was like--Ok. that's fine for him, but I have no evidence to support that point of view.  Then later some things started to happen that confirmed what he said, and I was glad to have that validation of another person going through something similar.

BTW, Another female that can't muti-task?  I don't feel so alone now! 

[Lionheart]

The visualization thing I do sometimes try....my problem is that I can visualize that I am watching myself walk through a park but I cant visualize actually walking through the park. I keep trying though

I think you are trying to make it happen to hard.

Just start your visualizing and ALLOW it to morph into a full blown scene. Once it does, you don't have to enter it, because it has already become your new reality.

When I visualize shooting hoops (Basketball), I start by shooting the ball, (that I know is already in my hand), at the basket (that I already know is there as well). After awhile I will just go for a layup. I didn't have to visualize entering the scene first. All I needed to do was to impulsively or instinctively move. You don't need to think about it. Just ALLOW yourself to react to it.

Sports are very good for visualization. They all have action. So, once you are in the moment, (example: a game of Ping Pong/Table Tennis and your opponent hits the ball off the table) , you just simply react to that move. Instinctively, you would just bend down and pick the ball up. Now you are part of the scenario! 

That game of Ping Pong began by me just creating/visualizing it and going through the motions. But I find that it will ALWAYS morph into something unexpected.

I used to do a simple visualization of watching a "spinning top", child's toy, just spinning. Once I maintained my focus completely on the spinning top, it would always morph into something anew. At first I fought this "morphing" because I thought it would interrupt my current session. But then I learned to ALLOW it to morph into whatever it wished to do. I just passively observe this with an air of curiosity until I actually found myself in that scenario doing something completely unexpected.

I find the unexpected Journeys are the most intriguing ones!