mantras how effective are them?

[gopherboy455]

it all depends on what is the easiest method. id be interested in hearing the method you are currently using and id advise you to try others out for a while. Id also be interested in hearing the method used for your one sucessful experience. mantras btw are not a favored method, not by me atleast, as it can bring intense sensations that can be avioded in other methods such as the body asleep mind awake.

[nthjbam]

However,

Alot of people do use mantras in helping them achieve an oobe.  There are some good ones for warming up your chakras etc.  I think they are taught by the gnostic school.  Gnostic group etc.  Whatever there name is, there are some really cool ones that do get your energy going, or so they say.  The brutal truth about mantra's is simplly this;  if you believe they work, then they do.  If you don't believe in them they do not.  If you personally lend power to them of think they help, then they will.  So go which ever way you like.  Personally you can't beat OHM, sounds more like AUM.  Calming and resonating, it opens up your mind.  Mantra's are good for clearing your brain and focusing in on something specific, which you may specifically designate to hold power for projecting.  If you're not too sure it's prolly better to go with breath awareness.  ope this helps in a roundabout sort of way.

Be well,
J

[Kerrblur]

The group I am apart of, Eckankar, Ancient Wisdom on Past Lives, Dreams, and Soul Travel(different from OBE's and my oppinion Astral Projection).  We sing HU(pronounced like the word hue)while in the trance state, while some sing from start to end. HU is The holy name of God.

Use this to quiet your mind, and yes you do get intense sensations, while you get this, say to yourself "I wish to go upward" is what I personally do once I receive these sensations, because when I tell myself that I wanna go upward, It Simplifies the visual actions I need to take to switch my Consciousness to the higher planes of existence.  

HU will bring you to awesome places.

[gato]

quote:Originally posted by gopherboy455

it all depends on what is the easiest method. id be interested in hearing the method you are currently using and id advise you to try others out for a while. Id also be interested in hearing the method used for your one sucessful experience. mantras btw are not a favored method, not by me atleast, as it can bring intense sensations that can be avioded in other methods such as the body asleep mind awake.

Thanx for your response but for now the method that best i have applied is the rope method up to the trance point of view. It has taken me fast to this state. In response to your other question i did not follow any guideline when i achieved my first astral projection the only thing i remember is i was observing my ceiling fan and was a bit tired all the sudden i was almost colliding the fan with my face and when i turned i saw my body in the bed.

[gopherboy455]

wow
that shows that projection can be easily achieved, what an interesting story, ill remember your experience with the fan, aslo the rope trick, i have evolved that technique to an easier technique ive been meaning to preach it on this web site, infact i may just start a new post. look for a post named "better than the rope"

[gato]

Hi there just curious,when trying to obe or astral projection now days i can only get to the state where i see diferent colors with my eyes close. I have experienced one astral projection only about 14 yrs back. Can somebody tell me if having or using a mantra would help me achieve a deeper state or trance. Can this help me project out of my body? Any help will be appreciated thanx!