Phasing method

Vexicaus · July 25, 2014, 06:26:22

Well I've only been doing this for a few days, phasing that is. I've always had the ability, but just never knew what it was. Anyways, I've found a new method and I was seeing if anyone else has used it. Well usually I'd just close my eyes and do it, I don't know the name for that but it seems pretty standard. I just recently started closing my eyes and pushing my eyes inward, not with a lot of force. But I do this with the "standard" method to further the affects, I find pushing the eyes in to be more effective. I don't know why, but has anyone else done it?

soarin12 · July 25, 2014, 07:07:28

When you say pushing the eyes inward, you don't mean cross-eyed right?

If you mean pushing them downward toward your brain, that might be what some people call the 'brain sqeeze.' I do that sometimes. I does oftentimes move things along to produce quicker results.

Vexicaus · July 25, 2014, 07:13:24

Nah not crossing my eyes. Yeah it works fairly quickly. Why is that? Do you know what it does?

ChampagneCharlie · July 25, 2014, 12:11:05

Trying to get a handle on this....

Does it feel like pressure at the back of the eyes?

soarin12 · July 25, 2014, 12:59:55

I have no idea why it works but it tends to bring on or intensify signposts such as vibrations, numbness or noises.

Vexicaus · July 25, 2014, 16:20:57

Yeah I guess I can define the feeling as "pressure" but it "intensifies" the phasing all together. I did it about an hour ago in Walmart. As I start to do it everything started moving smoother. I use the "standard" phasing method, it moves in quickly. Then, I start to see random abstractions, patterns, labyrinths, zig zags, dots, etc. Then eventually I see intense blue and usually the CEV of a face or something. Then I also get electricity or lightning all around my perception. Finally, I opened my eyes like any other time and everything was dark, and blurry (that happens). When my vision cleared up it looked as if I were "crossing" my eyes. But it was clear, I was seeing doubles. I got really scared; I thought I damamged my sight and it'd be stuck llike that. (That has never happened).

soarin12 · July 25, 2014, 22:39:19

That sounds similar to what happens with me although I've never had the visual changes after I open my eyes. You may be doing it more with your eyes than I do. What I do involves eyes, head (the brain squeeze thing) and from there, radiating down arms. If what's happening with your vision concerns you, try diverting some of what you are doing with your eyes to your head and see what happens.

Lionheart · July 25, 2014, 22:58:08

I find that this practice in general makes you "aware" of things that always occur in your physical body and it's surroundings, but in the past overlooked.

Lately I have been suffering from a problem called "Trigeminal Neuralgia". Back in February of this year I received a new Light/Sound machine for Christmas. I had been using a version called the Laxman for the last three years and really enjoyed it. The new machine was a new high tech design, but instead of being relaxing like the Laxman, it uses a very intense strobing program. During one of the first couple of sessions I did with the new device, the light spiked and caused a deep pain in the nerve of my left eye. The pain went away, but I left with a twitching temple. The worst part was, I injured my eye nerve while it was closed. Which means that most of the pain and irritation was occurring when I closed my eyes to meditate or go to sleep. This taught me to find another way to go about my AP sessions, if I wished to continue with this Art.

Two months ago I went and saw a Opthamologist who is also a Neurologist. I paid $300 for my office visit, just to be told that it was impossible to injure myself that way. He then looked in my eyes and said they were fine. He was in the room for no more than 1 minute. I didn't even have the chance to explain what a Light/Sound machine was. Needless to say, I was very disappointed with him.

Just this week I finally went to my Family Doctor. He listened to every word I had to say and diagnosed it very quickly.

The sensations/symptoms are constant spasms in the face, especially the temple and once in awhile, throbbing pains there as well. The only thing I could find to calm it was the Percocet I normally take for my chronic pain in my back and neck. He gave me a new pill named Gabopentin to rid myself of this affliction. That pill has some scary side effects, mainly ones that cause neurological problems, such as depressions, mood swings, such as intense anger episodes and suicide. The pill is normally used for treating Epilepsy.

This hasn't yielded my NP visits though. If anything it has intensified my spontaneous visits and False Awakenings as well.

So the moral this story is, be careful when using any AP technique. Even an intense focus can sometimes lead to an actual medical problem. I hear stories from people that focus on their third eye, sometimes too intensely and then suffer from headaches.

Vexicaus · July 25, 2014, 23:16:29

Thanks for the heads up. Whatever it is, the phasing technique, I guess it's as any muscle metaphorically. You shouldn't overuse it, or it will damage something, strain something. After phasing Ifound mmyself getting very tired. I don't know if that's from phasing but I don't have headaches but I have before.

mon9999 · July 26, 2014, 06:43:47

How do u push your eyes in??? How do u do this?

Xanth · July 26, 2014, 12:35:14

Quote from: mon9999 on July 26, 2014, 06:43:47
How do u push your eyes in??? How do u do this?

If I understand him correctly, it's like you're sucking your eyes into your head. Likewise, you can even push them outwards.

Vexicaus · July 26, 2014, 22:28:02

It's nothing more than pushing your eye balls inward with two fingers. You can get a phasing affect doing this alone, but doing what I call the hands free, "standard" phasing technique along with it, together they have gave me, personally the most intense phasing experience.

Bluefirephoenix · July 27, 2014, 00:16:23

ouch dont poke you eyes please

Vexicaus · July 27, 2014, 00:41:26

It's not exactly a quick poke, it's more of a gradual push inward. Doesn't hurt as far as pushing, the phasing hurts more.

Xanth · July 27, 2014, 00:44:37

Quote from: Vexicaus on July 27, 2014, 00:41:26
It's not exactly a quick poke, it's more of a gradual push inward. Doesn't hurt as far as pushing, the phasing hurts more.

None of this stuff should hurt at all! O_o

I'd also advise NOT pushing on your eyes. That's not exactly safe practice.

Vexicaus · July 27, 2014, 00:52:02

Alright I won't do it. I was just wondering if it was safe. Do you know any alternatives? Alternate phasing methods.

Szaxx · July 28, 2014, 11:19:21

You can phase so far while awake, when you go too far you lose the bodily controls and basically fall.
You need to be in a relaxed frame of mind to do this. You hear the hypnagogic noises and start to get visualisations before the body drops out of your concious control.

Pressure on the eyes, not recommended...

Vexicaus · July 28, 2014, 12:59:43

Isn't that basically a dreaming state?

Xanth · July 28, 2014, 14:23:32

Quote from: Vexicaus on July 28, 2014, 12:59:43
Isn't that basically a dreaming state?

Basically, what you think a dream is... it isn't.

Vexicaus · July 28, 2014, 15:41:03

Can you define dream? To my understanding it is just when your mind drifts off into a subconscious state. He said, "hypnagogic noises and... Visualizations before the body drops out of your concious control." That happens before I fall asleep, when I become subconscious, when I dream.

Xanth · July 28, 2014, 16:02:23

Quote from: Vexicaus on July 28, 2014, 15:41:03
Can you define dream? To my understanding it is just when your mind drifts off into a subconscious state. He said, "hypnagogic noises and... Visualizations before the body drops out of your concious control." That happens before I fall asleep, when I become subconscious, when I dream.

Can *I* define a dream? Per my own experiences, I can, yeah.
However, humanity (the scientific community) can't. Science still doesn't know what a dream is or where they come from.

The label "dream" to me is something that simply doesn't exist. There is no such thing as a "dream".

My definition: A non-physical experience where you simply don't realize you're not physically awake.

Or in other terms... a projection in which you don't realize you're projecting.

Vexicaus · July 28, 2014, 21:33:09

You don't know you're projecting unless you're lucid dreaming right?

Xanth · July 31, 2014, 12:55:02

Quote from: Vexicaus on July 28, 2014, 21:33:09
You don't know you're projecting unless you're lucid dreaming right?

You're stuck on labels.

Just think of a projection as any experience you have in a reality which you recognize as not being this physical reality.
Now obviously you want to be aware while you're having that experience... but that doesn't matter.

And to bring a bit more confusion to this: This physical reality experience you're having right now is ALSO a projection.

ChampagneCharlie · August 01, 2014, 16:20:06

Quote from: Xanth on July 31, 2014, 12:55:02
You're stuck on labels.

Just think of a projection as any experience you have in a reality which you recognize as not being this physical reality.
Now obviously you want to be aware while you're having that experience... but that doesn't matter.

And to bring a bit more confusion to this: This physical reality experience you're having right now is ALSO a projection.

Where does the projection end? Where is reality....?

Xanth · August 01, 2014, 16:59:33

Quote from: ChampagneCharlie on August 01, 2014, 16:20:06
Where does the projection end? Where is reality....?

Now isn't that the REAL question!

Reality is whatever you experience.

There's this profound believe among humans that this physical reality is all that's "real"... and if someone else can't experience what you experienced, then that makes your experience "not real".

You're always experiencing, even when you're not aware of it.

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