Hi all! First of I want to say that I am new to astral projection, and this forum. If this topic are on the wrong place, then sorry :P
Anyways! Before I stumbled across astral projection, I heard from my sister that if you lay still, in your bed for 20-30 minutes. You'll get a sleep paralysis. A few days later, I heard that it is good to have a sleep paralysis when astral projecting. Hearing this, I started to wounder. Is it possible to astral project by getting sleep paralysis by this method, and then use the rope technique to get out from your physical body.
What do you guys think?
EDIT: The only thing that you can move is your eyes. You can't even swallow because it will make you fail at the attempt.
// Appe96
P.S Sorry for bad grammar :P
Well, just "lying there" usually will end up with just "falling asleep".
Generally, what you're referring to requires you to "do" something other than just lie there. :)
In most cases one needs to keep their conscious mind active while their body falls asleep.
If it was as easy as just "lying there", there would be many more cases of SP reported... and it would probably be a commonplace occurrence.
Well theres some stuff that you have to do while waiting for SP. Gotta ask my sister what to do.
Hi,
There's information on this in the free e-book ASTRAL DYNAMICS.
Have a read.
Thnx for the tip! BTW I've edited the way to keep you awake (According to my sister) in my original post.
Every single technique i've seen always follows one single pattern.. and that is to keep consciously aware of your thoughts whilst forgetting about what the rest of your body is doing. When we go to bed. We just start thinking random stuff, stuff from the day, playing out a story.. whatever works. Eventually you get to a point where you lose awareness of what you are thinking about as the subconscious takes over, and bam youre asleep and dreaming.
Techniques I see, such as remaining conscious of the fact you cant move your body, only your eyes.. or trying to make out patterns and shapes in the blackness of your closed eyes (noticing). focussing and imagining you are in another room (so you instantly OBE there) are all designed to keep your mind active but forgetting about the fact your laid in bed.. focussing your attention (but keeping your attention) away from your body.
As you haven't moved for ages. Your brain thinks you've fell asleep so brings on sleep paralysis. With the sleep paralysis your external senses start shutting down. So you no longer hear, see or feel a great deal. With your external senses shut down, your consciousness (which is still unusually active) is now free to perceive other senses. As some people put it, your Astral senses. At this stage this is where the Astral Projection / Out of Body / Lucid Dreaming occurs. A similar metafor would be turning down loud music, and then being able to hear birds tweeting in the background.
Sleep Paralysis is just the entry door to much more if you like. Infact you should be aiming to have an astral projection rather than aiming for sleep paralysis. You just pass through that on the way. Some people can switch from Physical consciousness to Astral Projection feeling sleep paralysis. I see this and the vibrations as the static you hear when tuning from one radio station to the next.
Some members here might disagree, but FROM MY EXPERIENCE I can tell that this is pretty much the only way to achieve OOBE (sleep paralysis + any visualization of motion). I've never had an OOBE without/before achieving sleep paralysis. Once I have the paralysis, it's very easy to exit - and funny you mention the rope - that's what I use most of the times. So far I have around 40 OOBE's written down, and almost all of them came as a result of what you described.
Another question is...how do you achieve a sleep paralysis? It's tricky :)
Hmm might at least try for a few nights :/ My sister told me when she tried it for like a week ago, that it worked. She didn't know about astral projection back then so, she don't try to escape from her body.
I hope it works :)
Yeah, just laying there and getting used to body asleep, mind awake is a brilliant way to start. It is the way we all started.
Cheers,
Contenteo
I found a technique that had the same idea as I had, but they had added more to it http://www.lucidfun.com/astral-projection-astral-travel-techniques/
It really helped! :D My first attempt last night, I got the vibrations and slowly pull myself out of my body. I didn't succeed tho, because I gave up after 15 min of trying.
On my second attempt, I didn't get the vibrations, but I could clearly feel my astral body trying to release itself.
There were two problems tho. When I were using the rope technique. I always started to imagine myself slip, and fall down the rope. When it happend. My astral body started to do so as well.
The other problem was that I started to think more about my body than the technique. This way my body slowly started to fall back to my physical body.
So my question is: Is there any tips on how to focus on separation?
In those scenarios, I focus on my breathing. I let myself rock back and forth and slow down my breath. Even if I don't project, I will usually have some crazy dream, more common then not in a BST (belief system territory) which is always really cool.
Best.
Cheers,
Contenteo
Hi,
Lots of projectors say falling gives better results. Its also the recommendation given in ASTRAL DYNAMICS around page 100.
Breathing tech is very good to practice, you aquire the trance state sooner so have less risk of falling asleep. Contento is right and backed up too.
What you described is what I call mind-body-asynchronous-sleep. Basically, if you stay completely motionless (your eyes included), then your body begins to think that you have fallen asleep. Typically the body falls asleep AFTER the mind does as a safeguard. The way it will know for sure is to send some probing signals, essentially make you feel extremely uncomfortable so you will want to move. Of course if you are already asleep you ignore these signals, but if you are awake then it becomes very difficult to resist the urge to move. If you manage to resist it, then your body will give up at some point and you begin to experience SP, and in some case you get to experience the complete stages of falling into a dream in a very conscious manner. That experience can be very exhilarating. However, this method is very difficult to manage. It requires you to have a very tired body and relatively clear mind, and the urge to move can be so irresistible. Swallowing is also a major obstacle for most people.
Thx for the tips everyone! I will try again tonight. I'll hope that I succeed :D