Cannot get past the vibrations

[LazyPanda]

Hello,

I need a bit of help with the vibrations part.

I've been at that stage a lot of times now but they always fade away after some seconds. My body does not remain in sleep paralysis afterwards.
I'm saying 'remain' because I tried moving while they were happening and couldn't - yet after they've finished I usually can.

The first times I experienced it I tried techniques to 'leave' the body.
Nowadays I try to do nothing at all and let whatever is going to happen, happen by itself.
I know that's a bit of a turn, but I never quite understood what it is that I was supposed to be doing exactly, or what was supposed to happen next.

Doing nothing at all made sense to me, since I don't want to be doing anything remotely connected to my physical consciousness, potentially interrupting the whole process.
The only thing remaining is slight bit of surprise or irritation, when I've been lying half-asleep for minutes or hours and I can suddenly sense that they're about to happen. This is because my method of getting to the vibes is about stepping as little as possible over the line of being awake and falling asleep, meaning whenever I get the vibrations I typically feel like waking up a few seconds beforehand.
But it's still not as if I'm panicing or shocked or overly exicted or anything.

I'm wondering what it is that I might be doing wrong.

Any advice please?

[Lionheart]

 Hello LazyPanda!

Check out his thread here. It will give you a couple of ideas on how you can "jumpstart" your adventure from that state.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/help_i_feel_vibrations_floating_sensation_and_sleep_paralysis_but_no_obe-t42758.0.html

Another thing you could do here, is start a "inner shiver" or see yourself in a Hammock or rowing a boat, etc.

Some kind of activity that involves movement, like swaying works well too.

I'm pretty sure that's the technique that Lightbeam uses.

[LazyPanda]

Thanks, Lionheart.

I will try your technique.

[Astralzombie]

I have never places any importance on feeling the vibrations before projecting. Sometimes they are intense and other times I barely feel them if at all. I do put myself into SP but instead of anticipating the sensations it assocciated with SP, I start right off with visualizing some scene to become a part of. I usually "click" out before I even realize it. This process takes between 10-20 minutes usually. Sometimes faster, sometimes longer.

A common "mistake" mew AP'ers make is that they have projected and don't realize it because they didn't feel all the vibrations and stuff first so they discredit the experience as a "dream". It is a major fallacy to assume that your experiences will be anything like the ones you have read. In essence they are but it will take some time to realize this.

It will happen, I see it in your future.

[Szaxx]

Some of us don't get SP or the vibes at all. So don't think you need them, the above posts speak volumes.
Nothing is concrete for everyone apart from one thing.
Stay awake in mind and allow your body to go to sleep.
We all do this naturally to sleep,.the twist is for the 'you' to remain awake.

[LazyPanda]

Hello,

haven't had much luck with anything yet.

I wouldn't really say that I want to experience the vibrations themselves.
They're pretty much just the only unusual thing that ever happened during my experiments.
And they've been a wall for me ever since.

Is it possible that I have some psychological issues hindering any further progress?
I do firmly believe that astral projection is possible.
I'm not really impatient and I don't put pressure on myself.
I think that I need to be prepared for the possibility of bad things happening - but it's not as if I expect or overly fear it. During my attempts I don't really worry about it anyway.
If I may be honest though, I am a bit depressed with my life currently, with a lot of nagging things on my mind. I don't attempt to project when I'm in a bad mood though.
And sometimes I feel a bit jealous when I read other people's stories about them just getting there without even trying, or being able to project at will, any place, any time. Sorry about that. 

[Bedeekin]

Hey LazyPanda.

You are answering your own questions and thoughts.

You have nagging things on your mind. Deal with them. Don't try to use AP to escape the niggles and life problems. It may be your way of telling yourself to deal with the problems first. Maybe.

And sometimes I feel a bit jealous when I read other people's stories about them just getting there without even trying, or being able to project at will, any place, any time. Sorry about that. 

Don't worry... most people can't.... most people say they do but don't. I don't know of anyone who can just AP at the drop of a hat. Everyone goes through these bald patches.

[Astralzombie]

Yeah, drop of the hat guys are rare animals. I always give up within 30 minutes of trying to phase if I can tell it ain't happening. Luckily, I can almost always project from a dream after a failed phase attempt. It takes a long time of programming the intent to do it as regularly as some of us. And honestly, I know some people say they want it to happen more than anything but I question that.

But I don't try to do this more than once or twice a week and sometimes not at all.

[Astralsuzy]

I am a bit depressed with my life currently, with a lot of nagging things on my mind.
And sometimes I feel a bit jealous when I read other people's stories about them just getting there without even trying, or being able to project at will, any place, any time. Sorry about that. 

That might be your problem.  If I am worried about anything or have something on my mind, I find it hard to ap.  Your mind has to be relaxed free from problems and nagging things.
Some people can ap without trying but it may not last.  Years ago I was able to ap without trying but it did not last.  I have to put in the effort to ap and work at it.  I think most people cannot ap at will.

[Szaxx]

Take your time. Expecting to do this to order is so restricted in many ways. Things playing on your mind and having doubt are going to stop it.
You eventually will get the feel of this and learn what to expect.
It's similar to driving. The first few lessons your mind is everywhere analysing. Give it 5 years and it becomes almost a habit.
Instinct and familiarity play a big part.

Rome wasn't built in a day.

[LazyPanda]

Thanks everyone!

I don't really want to escape my "real" life's bothers. It's just that if I could realize that there's more to this world than meets the eye, it might give me more perspectives on some things.

I'm glad you guys are always so willing to answer patiently and help out.
Makes me feel guilty that I'm jealous about you. A bit.

Last time that I woke up and had the vibrations in my head, I tried concentrating on them.
For a moment, there was this very slight feeling of being pulled away in one direction.
But it was so faint, that I might as well just have imagined it. It feels odd and wrong, but is certainly worth another shot.

[Bedeekin]

I don't really want to escape my "real" life's bothers. It's just that if I could realize that there's more to this world than meets the eye, it might give me more perspectives on some things.

I understand. I was just covering that angle because it's a very common agenda for people wanting to learn. I didn't mean to lump you in. I suppose I take it for granted that there is more and forget that people are searching for that elusive proof.

Stick at it though.

So you wake up and catch the remnants of SP as they dwindle away?

[LazyPanda]

Hmmm, not really.

I didn't choose good words to describe it, as I don't wake up, like I do every morning but rather "wake up" as in regain consciousness when I am right on the border of falling asleep and struggle to remain that way. I may have been unconscious for a few seconds prior to feeling the vibrations, which sometimes seems enough to tip my body over into attempting to start the sleep paralysis.

I guess the surprising nature of suddenly experiencing the vibrations when I've just unconcious a few seconds ago is what might disturb my progress the most - I don't know what else.

[Lionheart]

Hmmm, not really.

I didn't choose good words to describe it, as I don't wake up, like I do every morning but rather "wake up" as in regain consciousness when I am right on the border of falling asleep and struggle to remain that way. I may have been unconscious for a few seconds prior to feeling the vibrations, which sometimes seems enough to tip my body over into attempting to start the sleep paralysis.

I guess the surprising nature of suddenly experiencing the vibrations when I've just unconcious a few seconds ago is what might disturb my progress the most - I don't know what else.

I do this as well. I call it the "click out". I lose consciousness for what seems like only a couple of minutes, But when I click back in, I feel the onset of vibration and SP approaching.

This is when I have patience and I ALLOW them to grow stronger. I know Bedeekin dislikes that term "Allow", but that's exactly what I am doing. I am not willing them to go stronger, I am not fighting the sensation. I am just ALLOWING it and observing what happens.

Sometimes I find that I am too conscious and my mind starts to become "overly or hyper aware" if that's even possible. This does cause a sudden fear to set in, I feel like I am in overdrive. When this happens the vibrations go away and I am not going to have a AP.

But other times, it's just plain awareness and I can observe every step of the process. I feel my ankles being pulled. I feel my body twisting and now can feel a full blown vertigo sensation all together with the sights and sound that would accompany that. I see the colors, I hear the buzzing and swirling of the vortex, tunnel. But no matter how "hairy" it may get, I stay the course and see it through.

[LazyPanda]

Ahh, very understandable description, Lionheart.

Maybe I don't know how to "allow" things to happen then. Because that's what I thought I was trying to do, several times.

So this means more practice on getting used to the vibrations? Have them happen so often that they start leaving me bored and unimpressed? They're nowhere near as overwhelming as they have been the first time for me, but there's still the the surprise, the anticipation, the mild curiosity about what's going to happen, the hope that everything is going to proceed correctly. Very subliminal feelings, but I can't deny them still being there.

[Lionheart]

 Yes Panda. The more you get to this stage, the easier that next part of the stage will be.

It's like tiptoeing through a minefield, trying to be patient, so you don't get blown up.

Once you undercover or discover a safe path, you are home free!